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robojudge
10-17-2005, 02:20 PM
Quoting from an article entitled Professor of Death, "I always try to attack the American military."
This comment, along with many similar remarks of incomprehensible and mindless lunacy, is found in an article appearing in the current edition of Time Magazine.
The doubtful sanity of suicide bombers in not new material. However, reaching an even lower level of journalistic integrity, Time Magazine goes to great length to protect the identity of this would-be assassin.
Journalists love to spice a story, and protection of this violent and destructive killer seems noble in their thinking. Unfortunately, their protection of this killer's identity only serves to cost more lives of innocent Iraqi women and children and peace-keeping American citizens serving in Iraq. Their mindless protection of this killer jeopardizes our troops.
Time Magazine has made a choice that the supposed protection of free speech is more important than the constitutional protection of the right to human life.
They may not understand this issue, but I bet those living in the heartland do. However, my guess is that if Time subscribers cancel their subscriptions, they will get the message. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif

Old Man
10-17-2005, 03:20 PM
Welcome and good points. Yes, we have found that irresponsible reporting has reached many lows. The Alphabet Media proved that over and over during the last campaign and still do.

We have come a far way from how "free speech" during a time of war was viewed in the early 1900's when a person was arrested for just printing anti-draft literature. His conviction was upheld by the Supreme Court.

robojudge
10-17-2005, 03:52 PM
By the way, anyone who believes that the events in Iraq are not a continuation of the war on terrorism should read Professor Death's (name unknown by choice of Time Magazine)comments.
He confirms that most of the so-called suicide bombers, describing them as "Arabs," are from outside Iraq, and it's clear that they come with their own agenda. Their interest has nothing to do with concern for Iraq, and some Iraqis are now beginning to understand that their next fight will be to remove these terrorist invaders from their country. In the words of Professor Death, "They won't leave quietly." http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bird16.gif

Charie
10-18-2005, 06:17 PM
Hi Robojudge. Welcome to http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif "Time" doesn't have to worry about me cancelling my subscription to their rag. I did that about 15 years ago.

Do you have an url for the Time website? I'd like to see it.
To bring it here, copy the url in the browser then click on the http:// in the little box at the top of your post page. A pop-up will appear and you can paste it into that. Another box will come up and you can just type "Source" in it and the whole thing will appear on the page on which you're posting. Then when you click "Add reply" "Source" will appear in red letters and anyone can click on that and read your source article.

That might be as clear as mud, but hope it helped a little. It sounds like an interesting article. We can't post full length articles as it's against the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif rules.

GroovyLady
10-18-2005, 09:21 PM
i've come to the conclusion that journalists can write whatever they want and quote "anonymous" sources without a thought about truth. it's ridiculous. it's no better than high school girl's bathroom where gossip abounds "but don't tell him I said that, OK?"

journalists should add a line under their by- line that indicates whether the story is non-fiction or fiction. non-fiction uses real names and verifiable sources; fiction doesn't.

robojudge
10-19-2005, 07:43 AM
Charie, included is the link to the article (http://www.time.com/time/). It is contained in the "World" section of the site. The article is in-depth and seems to glorify the sensitivities of the killer of American military and Iraqi civilians. But, alas, they do not share his identity.
Ironically, the media screams loudest about the secrecy of others, while supporting their own secrecy at the expense of human life (past, present and future). Apparently, they think we don't have the "right to know" that information which might actually protect the lives of the innocent. Go figure.
Aha, a Freedom of Information Act in reverse seems appropriate.
By the way, I do think an unintended consequence of the article is to confirm the on-going struggle in Iraq as a continuation of the war on terror. Most Americans and Iraqis are dying or injured at the hands of the suicide bombers, and most of the suicide bombers per the article are non-Iraqis. Non-Iraqis who have flooded Iraq to battle the United States in that country. Jihadist "arabs" as described by the so-called (and nobly described)Professor of Death.
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l1m89
10-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Link2story (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1118370,00.ht ml)
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE"><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Professor of Death</span>
EXCLUSIVE: An Iraqi insurgent leader reveals how he trains and equips suicide bombers and sends them on their lethal missions

&quot;Daddy, I want to be a martyr. Can you get me an explosive belt?&quot;

Like other Iraqi parents, al-Tamimi frets about the emotional toll on his child caused by the daily onslaught of suicide bombings. But al-Tamimi bears a personal responsibility for his son's bizarre ambitions. For the past 13 months, al-Tamimi has played a crucial, and murderous, role in the Iraqi insurgency: he is one of a small number of operatives who provide would-be suicide bombers with everything from safe houses to target information and explosives.[/QUOTE]
Here’s the Time’s article and a link2story.
Thanks for the article robojudge and welcome.

Charie
10-19-2005, 12:37 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">He agreed to meet with us after members of the TIME staff approached Iraqi contacts who are close to the insurgency,[/QUOTE]

If these brain dead morons have Iraqi contacts who can find out where the &quot;insurgents&quot; are, why haven't they notified the Pentagon, FBI and/or CIA? As long as these &quot;newspeople&quot; think that all countries are equal to the US and to which they apparently owe allegiance, I think we should pass a new law which allows sending them http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif all to one of these countries and I don't mean Western countries. I suggest Iran, China, Zimbabwe and Venezuela. Oops! Almost forgot North Korea. My bad.

And what's with this calling them &quot;insurgents&quot; An insurgency is a revolt. A revolution. How does one revolt against a country which isn't ones own. Apparently they're admitting that most terrorists aren't Iraqis, therefore, by definition, they aren't insurgents. They're terrorists.

robojudge
10-19-2005, 02:11 PM
As a nation, we decided long ago that there are certain basic responsibilities of citizenship, certain duties we owe to our society. Along the way, we imposed specific statutory responsibility on our citizenry to report instances in which the life of another citizen is at risk from the behavior of another. Watch the media outcry when someone fails to act. Yet, wrapping themselves in the constitution, they refuse to hold themselves to the same standard of decency or humanity. Hypocrites!!!!!
Always ready to condemn the conduct of another, but never their own. You get the sense that they actually want us to lose more lives in Iraq. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

l1m89
10-19-2005, 03:23 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">I think we should pass a new law which allows sending them http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif all to one of these countries and I don't mean Western countries. I suggest Iran, China, Zimbabwe and Venezuela. Oops! Almost forgot North Korea. My bad.[/QUOTE]
They’re traitors and should be treated as such,
and then after their sentences are completed,.
permanently banish them to your selected locations.

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Apparently they're admitting that most terrorists aren't Iraqis, therefore, by definition, they aren't insurgents. They're terrorists.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, they’re terrorists, just as illegal aliens
can’t be immigrants.
You’ve made excellent points.
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l1m89
10-19-2005, 03:44 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">As a nation, we decided long ago that there are certain basic responsibilities of citizenship, certain duties we owe to our society.[/QUOTE]
Then you don’t consider American citizenship
merely “boilerplate” like some others do?
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<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Watch the media outcry when someone fails to act. Yet, wrapping themselves in the constitution, they refuse to hold themselves to the same standard of decency or humanity. Hypocrites!!!!![/QUOTE]
That they are they hypocrites, yes they are and
more. They’re treasonous hypocrites and as such
they should be sternly dealt with. It’s not a
constitutional right to indulge in treasonous
behavior and put American citizens in peril.
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robojudge
10-20-2005, 09:21 AM
[QUOTE]And what's with this calling them &quot;insurgents&quot; An insurgency is a revolt. A revolution. How does one revolt against a country which isn't ones own. Apparently they're admitting that most terrorists aren't Iraqis, therefore, by definition, they aren't insurgents. They're terrorists. [QUOTE]

Charie, excellent distinction. The so-called &quot;insurgency&quot; in Iraq is not being directed or drived by Iraqis, but, instead, is planned and implemented by Jihadists from other countries as part of their continuing &quot;Holy War&quot; against the United States. You're right - they are terrorists, both against the United States and the people of Iraq, and should be treated (and acknowledged) accordingly. Further, if the Jihadists were not striking at the United States in Iraq, they would be conspiring to attack us at some other place. As the so-called Professor of Death truthfully acknowleged about their their emerging dilemma, &quot;They won't go away quietly.&quot;

Amazing how our leftist friends, most recently that Great American John Kerrey, seem to believe (or claim) if we would only leave Iraq, all of this middle eastern animosity toward us will go away. Right, and I've got some land I'd like to sell them in Pakistan. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/banghead.gif

TennesseeDave
10-20-2005, 09:47 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">i've come to the conclusion that journalists can write whatever they want and quote &quot;anonymous&quot; sources without a thought about truth. it's ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

Alexander Graham Bell put it best, Groovy: &quot;America is a nation of inventors and chief among them are the journalists&quot;

Even in Bell's day people recognized journalists were full of (insert term of choice here)

Duncan
10-20-2005, 09:50 AM
The duplicitous, hypocritical nature of the MSM is one of my favorite topics. This article deals with one aspect of the MSM's moral terpitude -- kneeling at the altar of objectivity at the expense of American lives (but only when objectivity can hurt America or its Republican president).

Typically, TIME trades in somewhat less egregious activity: shading the truth and projecting immorality on the hated Bush Administration. See your typical TIME cover headline? &quot;Misleader of America&quot;....it's always a question like &quot;Do you still beat your wife?&quot; or one that asks an insulting question: &quot;Is George Bush personally responsible for Katrina?&quot;

I'm optimistic, though. Witness the CBS fiasco courtesy of vigilant bloggers. The Internet is still on an exponential growth track. The MSM as it's presently configured (i.e. knee-jerk lefty, anti-American bias) will be reduced to having to scream its lies at the top of their lungs, instead of serving up their BS in time for everyone's dinner.