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Old Man
10-11-2005, 11:53 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Delphi, with plants in Coopersville and Wyoming, seeks to slash wages from an average $27 an hour to $10-$12 an hour and eliminate a jobs bank that gives full pay to 4,000 laid-off workers, officials from UAW Local 292 said in a letter, which was posted Thursday on a union Web site.

That would mean a $35,360 cut for a worker currently earning more than $56,000 a year. At $10 an hour, it drops to $20,800.

Local workers contacted by The Press today said they are shocked by such a drastic cut that would put their pay below many of the nonunion plants in the area. [/QUOTE]$10 an hour at Delphi? Workers angry over proposal to cut pay more than 50% (http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-25/1128696645200130.xml &coll=6)

This morning on the CNBC business news, they interviewed two analysts. They both agreed U.S. Labor wages are being determined by the competition in foreign countries. They said the U.S. companies can't compete with the companies in foreign nations.

If we can't get meaninful tax reform, we may find our wages are the only means of copetition. Both analysts also said that China will be importing vehicles here in a few years and asked, &quot;will American consumers buy U.S. vehicles or the imports?&quot;

This is one of the reasons, I have been saying I think Congress is dragging their feet on immigration reform. Whether they are right or wrong, I still think this is a motivating factor in the months that have gone by since the Minuteman project brought national attention to the border problem and the illegals. Yet, not one bill has moved forward much to change that from either party.

If you were a Delphi worker who just saw the top executives get more compensation and you were asked to take a pay cut of over 50% or see the plant close and pensions go into the Federal penision plan and be cut, what would you do?

Billary2004
10-11-2005, 12:53 PM
China has a long...LONG...way to go in manufacturing cars. China displayed some of their cars at the European Car Show and German Auto Show and everyone made fun of them....not for their looks, but for their bottom of the barrel crash test scores.

OM-You are right. We need tax reform asap. BMW moved plants to the US because of excessive tax regulations in Germany.

I think these scenarios bring up the question on how best to distribute foreign aid. We can't possibly continue to hand out money without strict demands. I am for globalization. I want to afford everyone the chance to decide their fate. I think that can only be done with land ownership. The US has to drop its tax code and force other countries to allow for land ownership. That is why Iraq will prove to be a monumental win. People in that section of the world will witness the opportunities provided in a free society with land ownership. Other countries' citizens will demand those same freedoms.

Old Man
10-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Heck, they'll do great. *Come up with a slogan like &quot;The car you love to drive, not crash.&quot;

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">The small, nondescript beige car, called a Geeley, has leather seats, air conditioning, a four-cylinder engine that delivers 40 miles to the gallon. And, best of all, it sells for only $6,900.

&quot;It would be a great first car for a kid,&quot; said Mike Snyder, one of the partners in China Motor Corp., USA, a new Chinese auto dealership at 4000 Auto Plaza Drive in Capitola.

Snyder is patiently waiting for the first load of Chinese cars to arrive.

&quot;They’re coming. They will be here,&quot; he said. He hopes the cars, which will be imported through the Port of Stockton, will arrive by the first of the year.
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The Capitola business is a dealership of Scottsdale, Ariz.-based China Motor Inc.

There are more than 100 auto manufacturers in China, Snyder said. And there are some 40 U.S. dealerships ready to sell the cars. Most dealers handle other brands of new cars as well.
[/QUOTE]Chinese car dealership opens in Capitola (http://www.santacruzsentine l.com/archive/2005/October/06/biz/stories/01biz.htm)

myownthinker
10-11-2005, 07:54 PM
Bottom line - a person cannot survive on a measley $10/hour pay - that is not a living wage and nobody in their right mind should work for it - it simply is saying &quot;please live in TOTAL poverty.&quot;

Fix the taxes, fix immigration, do what you need to do to compete with the hel#hole we call China - what a pit polluted country. To drop wages this much is a crock. It's anti american and anti christian to do this.

Old Man
10-11-2005, 08:09 PM
I agree MOT. I was just commenting in another thread that to get a middle class job you have to go into construction or transportation or high tech services, etc. The day of a factories being able to provide middle class wages are gone I am afraid. Factories, in order to survive in this new world market may be the step up from ag. workers who work for less than min. wage. Factories will be competing with retail for jobs and you know what retail pays.

The whole world has changed right before our eyes and most people aren't prepared for that change if they depended on factory jobs. A way of life in America is gone forever, I am afraid. Learn to be a carpenter or electrician or drywaller or concrete man. Learn to drive a truck or work in the ports or other things the nation depends on to get goods to the stores. The other sad thing is that you may have to move from the old factory belt to find a good paying job. There are too many unemployed in those aress.