Church eyes immigration reform

[Terri]

Church eyes immigration reform

Stephen Dinan
Washington Times

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America is expected to adopt a resolution this week promising to work for immigration reforms in the United States, becoming the latest religious denomination to boost its efforts to advocate for immigrants and refugees.

At its annual conference in Florida, the ELCA will call on its 10,000 congregations and nearly 5 million members to commit "to being an advocate and justice seeker in regard to refugee and immigration issues."

More (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050809-105557-9543r.htm)

[pRIMrose]

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">At its annual conference in Florida , the ELCA will call on its 10,000 congregations and nearly 5 million members to commit &quot;to being an advocate and justice seeker in regard to refugee and immigration issues.&quot; [/QUOTE]

I guess the $4.3 billion dollars we are already spending on immigrants (legal because of amnesty and illegals) isn't enough. Maybe we should just send our paychecks to Mexico. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

The &quot;flock tenders&quot; can only see one thing - more &quot;flock&quot;. We don't have enough poor and destitute legal citizens in this country. Let's encourage more - and while we're at it, change the religious rules regarding homosexuals and &quot;heretofore&quot; strict church dogma. They remind me of the SCOTUS - The laws are what they say they are. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes2.gif

This is exactly why we are having such a problem with interpreting the true meaning of &quot;church and state.&quot; We don't need them as lobbyists for immigration. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

[rangerrebew]

I don't see Chuckie Schumer and his ilk complaining about the separation of church and state or distancing themselves from these religious groups. More than that, an alliance between McLame and Tequilla Ted is more frightening than having millions more on the dole. That is like watching China and Russia engaged in joint wargames, very scary. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[STEIGERWALD]

All these advocates of more immigrants- legal &amp; illegal- should be the ones to sponsor, support, take care of, feed &amp; clothe em- not the general public's taxes. We have been overwhelmed by illegals as well as legals &amp; is having a devastating effect on America. These people come here to fill their bellies on bennies &amp; freebies &amp; have more &amp; more babies- all free &amp; not even learn the national language of America. They have not great desire to be Americans. Most Mexicans who come here want to stay Mexican, live like Mexicans, with their bellies here &amp; their hearts in Mexico.

[jackbenimble]

In my humble opinion, the Catholic Church has played a huge role in creating this problem in the first place.

I admire their principled stand on abortion and while I disagree with them on birth control I think they are entitled to it. But it seems the Catholic Church has gone out of its way to encourage poor people in the third world to have as many babies as possible regardless of the people's ability to properly clothe, educate or even feed the resulting children. It seems that breeding lots of little Catholics is their prime motication. It would not have been out of moral bounds for them to teach a little personal responsibility along with their other moral pontification on unprotected sex.

Now the Catholic Church wants Americans, most of whom are non-Catholics to be taxed to provide charity to these miserable ignorant hordes? No thanks! I think it is time for the Church to cash in some of its massive assets and take care of its own.

Regards,
Jack

[ncfm]

Most recently, parishoners in Boston have been agitating for legislation to force the archdiocese to open their &quot;financial books&quot;. At first I figured it was just a scam foisted on local citizens by the legal community to get a look at just &quot;how much the Church has left&quot;, before initiating another round of law suits. That might actually have been the case, but since several other states already have laws requiring the churches to open their books, it doesn't seem as anti-religion as it initially did.

Maybe it's time for America to consider taxing churches, particularly those churches that feel compelled to agitate in favor of a social agenda that negatively impacts taxpayers.

[CSchultz]

I wish they would take the &quot;L&quot; out of E.L.C.A.! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/madgo.gif

[rangerrebew]

Lyndon Johnson made it possible to strip churches of their tax exempt status if they become too political. What an interesting comment, the people in Boston wanted to know how much the &quot;Church had left&quot;. Maybe it should have been how much the church had TURNED LEFT. Don't forget, Tequilla Ted and John, the war hero, Kerry are both Taxachusetts Catholics and darned good ones too. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Luckyme]

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">The ELCA is also encouraging its bishops to establish task forces to help facilitate refugees and immigrants as they assimilate into society.
[/QUOTE]

Problem is these illegals aren't coming here to assimilate into our society. They come here to take from us and send whatever they can back home and are a major drain on our society and culture.