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Terri
01-26-2003, 02:02 PM
Senate Votes to Halt INS Registration Program

By Edward Walsh
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 25, 2003

The massive appropriations bill approved by the Senate late Thursday includes a little-noticed amendment that would cut off funding for a Justice Department program that requires male immigrants from two dozen predominantly Muslim countries to register and be fingerprinted by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

The main purpose of the amendment was to restore funding for a congressionally mandated program that by 2005 is designed to provide information on the identity of all visitors to the United States and track when they enter and leave the country.

But the amendment also included language that bans the use of any of the money for the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System (NSEERS), a program targeted at male temporary visitors from countries the government considers to be terrorist harbors.

Full Story (http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/articles/A40377-2003Jan24.html)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Congressional sources said the NSEERS funding cutoff was included in the amendment at the request of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.). James Manley, a Kennedy spokesman, said the amendment &quot;cuts funding until Congress has the information it needs to assess whether this is the most effective use of tax dollars in the war on terrorism.&quot;[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Der Alte
01-26-2003, 03:12 PM
You are absolutely right, getting rid of Bush won't stop the problem. *The Democrats and Catholic Hierarchy(another thread) are of the same ilk and both want as many hispanics as possible, the Dems for power and the Catholics for money.

I still like writing the WH and making GW and his crew think they may lose me if they don't do something about the borders and the massive number of illegals roaming the country.

My biggest concern is that the RNC will overdo their efforts to get the hispanic vote - at worst encourage them to come and at least to do nothing.

pRIMrose
01-26-2003, 05:16 PM
Woe is me. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif Cutting off funding for this is essentially giving the Dems what they want ~ potential voters. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

Here's another article by Sam Francis at VDARE that will give you pause for thought . It dispels the notion that Republicans wooing the Hispanic vote is going to make any difference. The socialist Dems will always be able to bribe poor, uneducated people.

The myth of the Hispanic Republicans (http://vdare.com/francis/hispanic_republicans .htm)

Terri is right ~ if we don't keep after the Republicans and Bush what other alternative is there? http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif

Wouldn't you think that Tom Ridge would be kicking and screaming about this right about now? This impacts greatly his Homeland Security. What can these http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/doh.gif be thinking?

Terri
01-26-2003, 05:22 PM
But this isn't about Hispanics or the southern border.

This stops funding for the registration program for Muslims from countries on the terrorist list.

This keeps us from registering these men and keeping track of them.

Terri
01-26-2003, 05:24 PM
This is potentially deadly to American citizens if it's allowed to stand.

We need to write and get this removed from the bill in the conference committee.

Der Alte
01-26-2003, 09:33 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For those of you who still think that everything will be all right on the borders if we just get rid of Bush, check this out.
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Terri, I was responding to your statement about getting rid of Bush, not the main article.

Terri
01-27-2003, 10:27 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Terri, I was responding to your statement about getting rid of Bush, not the main article. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I see. Are you concerned about this registration program not being funded?

Saber
01-27-2003, 11:22 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are you concerned about this registration program not being funded?
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Well I certainly am! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif I know you don't want to hear it, but.....

This program is a great one, but it's built on a foundation of quicksand as long as the borders are open. The borders are the foundation on which this program should be built. It's on very shaky ground......which is even more shaky with that idiot Kennedy!

Terri
01-27-2003, 11:41 AM
I want both borders controlled but that is not the subject of this thread. There are important illegal alien subjects that do not involve the southern border.

These men are here, they did not come here from Mexico, and Kennedy wants them to wander the country freely.

We know where these Muslims came from, how they got here, and the INS wants to find out where they are. Ted Kennedy does not want us to watch them. Why is that? Why does Kennedy want Muslim aliens wandering the country without supervision?

Why would any loyal American citizen defund this program?

navyblue
01-27-2003, 12:03 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For those of you who still think that everything will be all right on the borders if we just get rid of Bush, check this out.
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For my part, it isn't a case of getting rid of Bush. *It's getting rid of a policy that is pro Mexico and pro cheap labor at the expense of the American citizen. I would be fine with GWB if he would lose his love affair with Fox and Mexico. *I would even be in favor of a guest worker program provided it was not at the expense of the taxpayer and was not used as a back door to American residency and citizenship. *

I believe we have a life threatening problem with the Islamic world and have had it for the past 1500 years. *They have never given up on their dream of world domination. *They were stopped once before in the 15th century by Christian military forces. *It appears we will have to do it again. *For this reason, I am glad that we presently have Bush as president. *But I do not forget his negatives.

Terri
01-27-2003, 12:06 PM
I have removed my comment about Bush. It took the thread off topic.

The story is about Senator Ted Kennedy and Muslims.

It is not about Mexico.

Saber
01-27-2003, 12:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are important illegal alien subjects that do not involve the southern border.
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I thought that's what I said? However, as long as the borderS are open, we'll have more of them coming in every day. As long as they're coming in, we'll have to fund a program such as this. It's the &quot;foundation&quot; problem I keep referring to. Seems to me that this program should be fully funded to get the ones that are already here while simultaneously shutting the doorS so we're not having this program being funded forever anon........

Who would defund it? Only a liberal/socialist/communist like Kennedy.

Saber
01-27-2003, 12:10 PM
Terri, I never mentioned Mexico! I'm speaking of the border sieve problem. That IS, afterall, how these people are here.....by the lack of the INS doing their job on one hand....and then turning a blind eye as millions of others cross illegally! That's how the muslims that want to kill us are here and the reason we now have to fund this problem! We need to treat the symptoms AND the cause for the cancer.

Saber
01-27-2003, 12:15 PM
navy,

Once again, I love your posts and agree with you on almost 100% of everything you say. This one is perfect.....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For this reason, I am glad that we presently have Bush as president. But I do not forget his negatives. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Terri
01-27-2003, 12:23 PM
I will repost this thread when I find another story about this in the hope that we can talk about the Senate action that has taken place and the need to address it.

Saber
01-27-2003, 12:25 PM
How am I not speaking of the funding/de-funding of this program? I'm only saying that we can't continue to treat symptoms without getting to the real root of the problem.

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Terri
01-27-2003, 12:33 PM
I've posted a similar story in Activism where it probably should have been all along.

This is a congressional issue and my hope is that people will write to their Congressmen to make sure this funding to control Muslims from terrorist countries is restored. It's important.

My apologies for not emphasizing that in the beginning.

No problem Saber, I hope you will write.

Saber
01-27-2003, 12:44 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No problem Saber, I hope you will write. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I've already written Terri, but we'll be funding this for generations to come. It's scratching the itch and not dealing with the snake venom creating the itch in the first place.

And that's all I have to say about that!

navyblue
01-27-2003, 01:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Once again, I love your posts and agree with you on almost 100% of everything you say. *This one is perfect.....
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Saber,
Almost 100%? *So what's wrong with the rest of them? * http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Saber
01-27-2003, 06:41 PM
hehehehe.......I can't think of one time that I haven't agreed. Just thought I'd better leave myself some wiggle room just in case there was one in the past that I hadn't remembered! LOL http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Der Alte
01-27-2003, 09:43 PM
I think I will go to the other thread and give Terri my answer before she gets mad at me - I think I'm the one that got things off track. Saber, I agree with you that the borders need to come first and then go after the bad guys already here. Presently its like trying to catch the grains of sand in a hour glass, one grain at a time.