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jackbenimble
01-31-2005, 10:18 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE"> Rush for the Border (http://www.opinionjournal.c om/diary/?id=110006230)

Limbaugh issues a warning to President Bush.

Monday, January 31, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST

ORLANDO, Fla.--In the aftermath of 9/11, conservatives bottled up their frustrations over some of President Bush's policies. Then they muted their criticism during the presidential campaign. But now it is spilling out in all directions--and the White House had better pay attention.

On Friday Rush Limbaugh, a staunch Bush supporter, took two separate opportunities to warn the president that he faced conservative opposition on some key issues that could hurt his chances of passing the rest of his second-term agenda. First was federal spending, which &quot;is surging out of control,&quot; according to the Heritage Foundation's new &quot;Mandate for Leadership.&quot; The other was immigration, which, Mr. Limbaugh told his listeners, &quot;could break up the Republican-conservative coalition&quot; à la Ross Perot. &quot;We cannot maintain our sovereignty without securing and protecting our borders in an era where terrorists around the world seek entry to this country,&quot; he said.

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And here is a little more quoting Ken Kobylt of the Ken and John show that got the &quot;FireDreier Campaign&quot; rolling in SoCal.

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">Mr. Kobylt says talk radio has tasted blood on the immigration issue and he expects other hosts around the country to now pick up on the issue. &quot;Republicans are in bed with businesses who like low labor costs, and Democrats have this socialist bent,&quot; he says. &quot;But the taxpayers in this country cannot be responsible for a corrupt, bankrupt country like Mexico. We should start throwing employers in jail, a few fat rich white guys in prison.&quot;
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It is really interesting to see this article in the Wall Street Journal. For pretty much two decades the WSJ has pushed for and promoted a 5-word constitutional amendment: &quot;There shall be open borders&quot;. This article does not really reflect a huge shift from that philosophy but it does recognize that the public is getting increasingly angry and that if they government doesn't start establishing some enforcement credentials they are likely to end up with a backlash and some fat rich guys in jail.

It is equally interesting to see Rush Limbaugh get off the fence on this issue. I enjoy Rush's show and listen to at least part (often only a few minutes) of it a couple of times per week. In over a decade, I have almost never heard Rush talk about illegal immigration. But several times lately I heard him launch into a minor tirade on the subject and once he devoted a significant part of his show to the topic.

Sean Hannity, who normally has his face wedged firmly between President Bush's buttocks, has been even more vocal. Again, I only listen to his show occassionally but almost everytime I do he spends a little time criticising the Bush Shamnesty. It seems to be making it onto his TV show about once per week too.

Radio Talk Show Hosts are all about ratings and they are starting to figure out that the illegal immigration issue resonates with conservatives. And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy; the more they talk, the madder people get and the more it resonates and drives ratings which causes them to talk more.

I think it is a good thing.

Regards,
Jack

Froufrou
01-31-2005, 02:13 PM
I agree Jack. I did not hear Rush on this but he has so many avid followers that his endorsement of the problem is the best that could have happened.

casseopia
01-31-2005, 05:25 PM
I think this is incredibly good news! The more pressure from all avenues, the more likely that something will be done.

We have governors races coming up here next year. I won't be voting for ANYONE who doesn't make this a top priority, even if I have to write in a candidate.

ArmyWife
01-31-2005, 06:40 PM
Although Rush has been accused of being a blow hard, when he gets on board a topic, you can rest assured, his fan base are listening. *He's not a stupid man - and like everyone else in this country should - realizes that with the borders as badly guarded as they are is the main reason the people that committed the terrorist acts on 9/11 happened.

Michelle Malkin has always been behind this.

I lived in Texas for 6 years -- my husband spent 6 months in El Paso. We always supported more border control when we lived there, but he said after 6 months in El Paso, he was more firmly for more serious restrictions, even to the point of building a wall. *He was there when the Berlin wall came down, but he said this type of wall on or borders would be different - it would not be seperating a country, but protecting one.

Just throwing in my http://www.geocities.com/jmp5329/twocents.gif

Jo

casseopia
01-31-2005, 07:33 PM
ArmyWife, I don't know when you lived here but I've been stuck in El Paso two separate times now. Once in the mid 1990's and again from 2001 until now.

I noticed that things got a lot worse by the time we came back here the second time and they have skidded steadily downhill since. It is very frustrating to see part of our country turning into part of another country right before our eyes. I can't wait to get out of here but it has been a real education in illegal immigration and the people who cover it up.

I hope you will continue to support more border control because it is in dire need of control, now, more than ever.

ArmyWife
01-31-2005, 08:12 PM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">ArmyWife, I don't know when you lived here but I've been stuck in El Paso two separate times now. Once in the mid 1990's and again from 2001 until now.[/QUOTE]

My husband was in the CSM Acadamy from January to June 2004. I flew out there for his graduation - I was just floored how ugly the place is, and then I looked into Mexico. I was never so glad to get home in my life! We drove from El Paso to LA the first day just to get as far away from that place as we could.

Are you in the military?

Jo

casseopia
01-31-2005, 08:53 PM
No, not military. Hubby works for a defense contractor. We get to go desert hopping all over the world. The only thing I can say good about this place is that it is better than being in the Mid East. Been there, done that, never will return. My home is NC and I will get there again one day soon. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

jackbenimble
02-01-2005, 08:02 AM
<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr class="standard"><td>Quote </td></tr><tr class="standard"><td class="QUOTE">My home is NC and I will get there again one day soon. [/QUOTE]

My understanding is that North Carolina is also being buried under the flood of illegals. Part of the problem apparently is that NC has extremely lax rules for handing out drivers licenses and that attracts them by the bus load. And part of the problem is that NC has a construction boom and they are coming to do the jobs that Americans used to love to do when they paid a decent wage.

Regards,
Jack

casseopia
02-01-2005, 09:35 AM
Yes, Jack, that is fact.

Migrant workers who went to NC in droves in the 70's and 80's stayed. Their kids went to school, raised their own kids, and invited their families. Thus a population explosion that continues to grow. Back then, I was raising my own kids and didn't really notice because those immigrant kids were babies or in lower grades than mine so they had no impact on my kids' studies. I know that at least one grocery store where they used to converge en masse was closed because they walked through opening jars and sticking their fingers in them, munching produce and creating a general nuisance. My grandkids went to school with enough immigrants so that they can speak Spanish phrases that they definitely didn't learn in school even though they have been forced to learn spanish in grade school to accomodate what are probably at least half illegals if not more. Today, it's a whole different ballgame.

There are still NC farms where tobabbo, cotton and other crops are grown that apparently require human labor to harvest. They claimed that Americans wouldn't take those jobs, too, but I know they would have. Of course they won't now because they don't want to be attacked by gangs who want their relatives to have those jobs.

In addition, there is a huge population oof immigrants from Arab nations along the coast. They are buying up hotels, stores and restaurants in my area. I'm positive some of them are legal but every year the population grows and it makes me wonder every time I walk through the stores and hear people speaking Arabic where they came from, how long they have been there, and how long they are planning to stay. Worse, what have they got on their minds.

A huge population of Asians also exists in NC. Soldiers at Ft. Bragg and Camp LeJeune married Asian girls and brought them home. Next thing you know, the Asian girls invited their families, who often disappeared into the woodwork. I assume some were &quot;sponsored&quot; immigrants as well. In any event, there is another cloudy issue where some are legal and some aren't.

I am ashamed to say that it has been 15 years since I lived in NC for more than 3 or 4 months out of any given year and some of those years I never set foot in the state. Our home is there and we will eventually go back there but I have a feeling that I will become just as uncomfortable there as I am here because of the changes.

The major difference is how secure I feel in that I live out in the woods, there is only one way onto my property without walking through a snake infested woods and I keep a loaded gun in a place where I can get to it but the grandkids, who are seldom there, can't. AND I don't get discriminated against in my own country because Americans still outnumber the foreign nationals.

I don't know what the state of NC is doing about the problem but now that I have discovered where to find the information, I plan to keep tabs on them. And we all know I'm not shy about voicing my opinions or writing to politicians. I have voted in the state of NC in the past because I lived there for most of my adult life and part of the time while we were overseas our legal US address was our NC address. My overseas votes were for NC politicians along with Federal. I had newspaper subscriptions sent overseas so I could keep up with as much as possible but there, too, a biased press exists.

Since I can't legally vote in two states and the majority of my time is spent in TX, I am registered and vote in TX at present. Even though I know I won't be staying here unless I get caught in the crossfire and gunned down, I still think it's important to fight this illegal immigration thing along side of the Americans who ARE staying here.

I have relatives in Michigan, California, Connecticut, Arizona, Florida, New York and North Carolina. Some pay attention to what is happening but don't take any action and some couldn't care less because it's not on their doorstep yet. One sister is so liberal that I sometimes want to grab her and shake some sense in her. Another sister is the complete opposite. My once liberal oldest son is changing his tune by leaps and bounds now that he sees the effects of trying to &quot;help&quot; everyone. He voted for George W. Bush with a great deal of reservation. My nieces and nephews in Michigan had to move out of Detroit because it has been pretty much taken over by immigrants who definitely want their culture to take precedence. Knowing those people and communicating with them and being on line where people from everywhere converge in forums like this, I can plainly see that something has got to be done now, not just here on the border, but all over this country.

Der Alte
02-01-2005, 05:59 PM
I live in NC and can tell you that illegal immigration is terrible. Believe that the figures show a 280% increase since 2000. The state finally got off its butt last year and put more restrictive rules into effect on drivers licenses - they are still worried about approx 400,000 who got their license before the new rules became law. The reason they know how many were probably illegals is that they sent mail to the address they gave and it was returned &quot;Incorrect Address&quot;. Its a real mess, especially on weekends when the farms bus them into town. They love Wal Mart and crowd around the front door and walk down the aisles 4 to 6 abreast. As far as harvesting cotton - they aren't needed - its all mechanized. They are big into sweet potatoes, melons, tobacco. They have made tremendous inroads into construction and other jobs that Americans won't do??? Build the blankety blank fence from the Pacific to the gulf - most Americans would gladly donate towards its construction. If we can send billions to foreign countries each year we could certainly afford a fence. It would also help Americans find job - building the fence.

casseopia
02-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Holy Cow, Der Alte! I had no idea it was that far out of hand. I did know it was getting bad, though.

I heard that they started closing some of the stores that stayed open 24 hours in the Raleigh/Durham area because of their passion for congregating in the parking lot and knifing people.