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Terri
08-30-2004, 11:52 PM
Furor Over Bush Terror Comments

AP
Fox News

NASHUA, N.H. — President Bush ignited a Democratic inferno of criticism on Monday by suggesting the war on terrorism could not be won, forcing his aides to scramble to defend his remarks just as he had hoped to bask in convention accolades.

Bush sought to emphasize the economy -- New Hampshire's appears to be on a rebound -- but his comments on terrorism dominated national attention.

In an interview on NBC-TV's "Today" show, Bush vowed to stay the course in the war on terror, saying perseverance in the battle would make the world safer for future generations. But he suggested an all-out victory against terrorism might not be possible.

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lpara
08-31-2004, 01:10 AM
<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>When I heard this on the news, I said &quot;They must have taken it out of context,&quot; but I guess they didn't. I understand his meaning. Evil will never go away. There will always be good and there will always be evil (just look at our 2 party system http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) but I sorta wish he hadn't used those exact words. Too much fodder for the evil ones http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif They'll never let go of this. I only heard John Edwards' stupid statement~~ no wonder I couldn't believe it!</span>

bullelk
08-31-2004, 08:57 AM
Quote[/b] (Terri @ Aug. 30, 2004 -- 10:52 pm)]Furor Over Bush Terror Comments

AP
Fox News

NASHUA, N.H. — President Bush ignited a Democratic inferno of criticism on Monday by suggesting the war on terrorism could not be won, forcing his aides to scramble to defend his remarks just as he had hoped to bask in convention accolades.

Bush sought to emphasize the economy -- New Hampshire's *appears to be on a rebound -- but his comments on terrorism dominated national attention.

In an interview on NBC-TV's &quot;Today&quot; show, Bush vowed to stay the course in the war on terror, saying perseverance in the battle would make the world safer for future generations. But he suggested an all-out victory against terrorism might not be possible.

More (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130589,00.htm l)
I don't know what President Bush meant when he made this statement but he might have tried to make the point that we can never defeat terrorism when we have so many Democrats helping the terrorists. It's obvious to me they have aided and abetted the enemy. They are traitors! They have undermined the cause of freedom and they have the blood of our soldiers on their hands. They have sold out America and turned this country inside out in their quest for the White House. God Bless America and help us win this war!!

lpara
08-31-2004, 09:45 AM
Welcome bullelk! Thanks for posting and joining! By George, http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif I think you've got it! That probably is exactly what he meant! Again, WELCOME!!

Merika
08-31-2004, 10:32 AM
I think he meant it can't be won 'conventionally'. They aren't one country that you can war into submission. They are like cockroaches. They keep multiplying. All you can do is seek them out and try to control them.

Alphtoo
08-31-2004, 11:53 AM
Quote[/b] (Merika @ Aug. 31, 2004 -- 9:32 am)]I think he meant it can't be won 'conventionally'. *They aren't one country that you can war into submission. *They are like cockroaches. *They keep multiplying. *All you can do is seek them out and try to control them.
I believe you're right. Terrorism will continue to exist as a tool of war until something more effective and/or economical comes along.

I see our &quot;war on terror&quot; as sort of like housebreaking a dog. You can't change the dog's mind about having to go, but you can convince him that acting out his urges in your house will bring him grief every time.

We can't keep people from hating the U.S. and all we stand for, but we can convince them that to act out their hatred against us will result in the destruction of themselves, their families, villages, towns, cities... in effect, the twisted culture they're dying to preserve. If we are resolute and respond with sufficent force every time perhaps they will learn to keep their, er, hate off our carpet.

JJBiener
08-31-2004, 02:02 PM
Bush's answer was the very thing the Democrats claim he never does. It was a nuanced answer. Considering this is all Kerry does, you would think they would recognize it.

As usual, Bush is absolutely right. There is will be no ultimate victory in the war on terror. All we can do is make it very difficult for terrorists to operate. They will never surrender. They will never renounce terror. But we can make it extremely difficult for them to succeed. That is all we can expect from victory.

Personally I find the Democrats' rhetoric insulting to my intelligence.

mmareus
08-31-2004, 02:51 PM
Bush only stated the obvious, you cannot completely wipe out terrorist. You can't completely wipe out roaches either, but you can kill them every time they show their ugly little heads. There will always be terrorist in the world, but we can kill them everytime they show their ugly little heads. In doing so we will make the world a safer place. We may not stop all the terror attacks but we can sure reduce the number of them and ultimately the number killed by them.

MOblonde
08-31-2004, 04:28 PM
President Bush was on Rush's show today and he explained that the war on terror cannot be won in the usual manner with the idiology of the terrorists and it will not be won in 2-3 years. It may take a lifetime to win,but he assured Rush that we would win by staying the course.
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Thundercat505
08-31-2004, 11:17 PM
short of genocide--the war on terror cannot be won. you can stall them, hurt them in the pocket book, hunt them down, kill them one by one, but unless you go the genocide, you won't wipe them out.

they are breeding more and more terrorists and no matter what you do you can't totally win with a few conventional bombs. a conventional war cannot be won without a lot of attrition.

naturally the dumbs recognize what happened but won't turn loose of it since it makes lurch look a little cleaner than he is. they are reeling fromt he swifties and are grabbing at straws but it doesn't matter to them.

Tyler2
09-04-2004, 05:15 AM
The war against the terrorists (being the most unconventional war to date), when it is won (to the extent that it can -and will- be won), will not have a conventional ending. It will not end with the traditional pomp and ceremonial signing of pieces of paper upon which the most official rhetorical acknowledgements and promises are signed with specially designed artistic flourishes contained thereupon. Whilst straight lines of uniformed soldiers stand at attention in their best clean white uniforms in the bright sunlight as the cameras of international reporters flash, taking photos of sober, serious diplomats and &quot;statesmen&quot; for the world to see and place (with opportunistic credits to the photographers) into schoolbooks. And journalists self-importantly harumph, imagining they are immmortalizing their way into the history books for all time. It won't be a repeat of the journalistic photo opportunities at the official end of WWI. Nor, WWII.

This war is more deadly serious than, as yet, enough people are willing to admit. With the passing of time, with more ferocious and unwarranted deaths of innocents in increasing numbers of countries, with more people whose children have been killed, more will finally (however reluctantly), awaken to the then undeniable reality of the situation.

Useful idiots (such as are included among the 60+ Democratic members of the U.S. Congress who are members of the Democratic Socialists of America), are not useful to those who would prefer to live. And to have their children live.

May God bless not only the United States.

May He also bless those precious little Russian children so cruelly murdered or injured at the hands of the terrorists. May He have a tenderness in His heart for the parents of those innocent, trusting, tiny ones.

giddybird
09-06-2004, 02:14 PM
The NERVE of them calling Bush a flip-flopper.

President Bush is the most solid, unwavering, determined, focused president we've had in a long time.

History will show him to be one of our strongest Presidents.

I pray every day for his re-election, and fear our fate should the real flip-flopper get elected.

McMahon
09-06-2004, 02:22 PM
Quote[/b] (giddybird @ Sep. 05, 2004 -- 3:14 pm)]The NERVE of them calling Bush a flip-flopper.

President Bush is the most solid, unwavering, determined, focused president we've had in a long time.

History will show him to be one of our strongest Presidents.

I pray every day for his re-election, and fear our fate should the real flip-flopper get elected.
A real flip-flop would be if someone one day pretended to be for the war against terror, the next day against.

Uh-oh, I came real close to what Sen. John Kerry says... http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ne_nau.gif

Alphtoo
09-08-2004, 11:58 AM
Quote[/b] (Tyler2 @ Sep. 04, 2004 -- 4:15 am)]Useful idiots (such as are included among the 60+ Democratic members of the U.S. Congress who are members of the Democratic Socialists of America), are not useful to those who would prefer to live. *And to have their children live.

May God bless not only the United States. *

May He also bless those precious little Russian children so cruelly murdered or injured at the hands of the terrorists. *May He have a tenderness in His heart for the parents of those innocent, trusting, tiny ones.

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. Let's all pray for the peace-loving people everywhere, and especially for the innocent children who are being hurt and killed by this madness. They need God's protection more than anybody.

- Alph

SarahBigT
09-16-2004, 06:31 PM
Depending on what context in which you look at this statement, there is a lot of truth to it. One must look beyond the terrorism/political/humanistic view of this type of war and see it for it really it. It is a spiritual war between God and His &quot;church&quot; vs Satan's followers, the rest of the world. This type of warfare is described in Revelations as the end draws near and it won't end until the Lord brings down His hand in final judgment. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif