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jonessa2
07-10-2004, 04:50 AM
Quote[/b] ]From: aculistmanager@lapto plobbyist.com *
To: jonessa2
Subject: The U.N. Monitors U.S. Presidential Election - Never
Date: 09 Jul 2004 11:21:49 -0400

Dear Friend of the ACU:

Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) and twelve other far-left members of Congress had the unmitigated gall to ask Kofi Annan of the United Nations to appoint a UN delegation to determine if the United States of America is capable of running its own presidential election this fall.

In fact, when somebody told me about it, I thought the idea came from Michael Moore’s latest movie. *But we called Eddie Bernice Johnson’s office and – sure enough -- this crazy story is absolutely true.

In their letter to Annan, Eddie and the "Dirty Dozen" said: "We are deeply concerned that the right of U.S. citizens to vote in free and fair elections is again in jeopardy."

These Democrats aren’t talking about Cuba or Haiti or Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. *They are launching a slanderous attack against the United States of America *-- <span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>their own country, the freest and fairest nation in the world.</span> *

And they are asking the sorriest countries on the planet to pile on. *(“Come on, France, it’s Get America Week!”) *

Eddie Bernice Johnson and the &quot;Dirty Dozen&quot; asked in their letter for &quot;international election monitors&quot; to watch for &quot;questionable practices and voter disenfranchisement on Election Day.&quot; *And all the while they wept Hollywood tears, complaining that: “As the next Election Day approaches, there is more cause for alarm rather than less.&quot;

Political pundits acknowledge that Johnson's actions are &quot;grand-standing&quot; designed to rile the political Left into action, but in my mind, Johnson's actions are outrageous and should not go unanswered.

Click the hyperlink below to send your personalized Blast Fax message to the House Leadership, Eddie Bernice Johnson and her &quot;Dirty Dozen&quot;. *Tell them that Eddie Bernice Johnson's actions are arguably anti-American and that she needs to be REBUKED IMMEDIATELY. *At the same time, send your personalized Blast Fax to John Kerry, John Edward and the DNC calling for them to publicly repudiate Johnson's actions - because when they don't - we intend to publicize their refusal to the four winds.

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Even the UN – always eager to trash America – refused to fall for this Democratic scam to smear the United States. * *But Johnson is undaunted and even now, she is continuing her call for U.N. monitoring of U.S. elections.

In case you haven’t figured it out yet, these Hate-America Democrats are still whining about 2000, when they failed to steal enough votes in Florida to elect Al Gore. *THAT’S why they wrote their old buddy Kofi Annan.

One phone call would have spared Eddie Bernice Johnson and her gang the trouble of making this off-the-wall request. *The U.N. Charter prohibits interference in the internal *affairs of a nation, except on request of the government in question – and then it would have to be approved by the Security Council or General Assembly.

On second thought, Eddie Bernice probably DID make that call. *After all, she and the &quot;Dirty Dozen&quot; didn’t really expect the UN to intervene. * *They just wanted to sling mud at the Bush Administration – and if they muddied their own country’s flag as well – all the better!

These liberals didn’t dream up this outrage all by themselves. *You can bet they are the attack dogs of Teddy Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry – eager to attack Republicans, their country, and anybody who wants America to remain independent and prosperous.

Oh, and in case you're interested, the culprits are Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson and her Dirty Dozen:
Rep. Corrine Brown
Rep. Julia Carson
Rep. William Lacy Clay
Rep. Joseph Crowley
Rep. Elijah Cummings
Rep. Danny Davis,
Rep. Raul Grijalva
Rep. Michael Honda
Rep. Barbara Lee
Rep. Carolyn Maloney
Rep. Jerrold Nadler
Rep. Edolphus Towns

Click the hyperlink below to send your personalized Blast Fax message to the House Leadership, Eddie Bernice Johnson and her &quot;Dirty Dozen&quot;. Tell them that Eddie Bernice Johnson's actions are arguably anti-American and that she needs to be REBUKED IMMEDIATELY. At the same time, send your personalized Blast Fax to John Kerry, John Edward and the DNC calling for them to publicly repudiate Johnson's actions - because when they don't - we intend to publicize their refusal to the four winds.

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However, don’t dismiss the idea that U.S. elections may one day be turned over to the United Nations? *

If Supreme Court justices keep ignoring the Constitution to kowtow to world opinion and international law, it COULD happen – if not in 2004, then in 2008 or 2012 or 2024. *

For years the Left had been scheming and manipulating to deliver America into the hands of the United Nations – which means to put U.S. citizens – you and me -- under the absolute dictatorship of a bunch of Third World countries that hate us because we’re freer, richer, stronger and better than they are. *

Can you imagine a delegation from China, Haiti, Uganda, and Libya traveling around the United States of America each November, poking their noses into polling booths, huddled with Teddy Kennedy and Hillary Clinton, screaming and waving their hands in front of TV cameras? *

Can you imagine a gang of communists, socialist, &quot;jihadists&quot; and autocrats calling press conferences in Washington and New York to denounce the President, calling him “worse than Idi Amin,” demanding that the UN punish him and set up a “protectorate” composed of Third World dictators, and international *&quot;food for oil&quot; hustlers?

By the way, the UN guideline for monitoring elections is one observer for every 100 polling sites. *That would mean about 2,000 Third World hustlers crawling around election booths from Key West to Anchorage

Can you imagine them telling the world that American elections are repressive and racist and fraudulent?

And here’s the most galling part of all: The whole spectacle would be funded by taxpayers – by you and me – since we finance the UN.

We’ve got to stop this circus before the cherished dream of the hate-America crowd becomes our nation’s worst nightmare.

Click the hyperlink below to send your personalized Blast Fax message to the House Leadership, Eddie Bernice Johnson and her &quot;Dirty Dozen&quot;. Tell them that Eddie Bernice Johnson's actions are arguably anti-American and that she needs to be REBUKED IMMEDIATELY. At the same time, send your personalized Blast Fax to John Kerry, John Edward and the DNC calling for them to publicly repudiate Johnson's actions - because when they don't - we intend to publicize their refusal to the four winds.

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Barbarian
07-11-2004, 03:29 PM
It's simple..I see a blue helmet or UN official at my polling area, I shoot him.
This is the USA..sovereign territory.

XNavyGunner
07-11-2004, 05:26 PM
Quote[/b] ]It's simple..I see a blue helmet or UN official at my polling area, I shoot him.
This is the USA..sovereign territory.

Just the polling area? Geez you're a nice guy. I say any one of them anywhere.

Original Rebel
07-11-2004, 05:32 PM
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Jonessa, is it kosher to ask who all in the Forum (if you know, that is) is joining in on this &quot;blast fax&quot;? I realize it is a singular effort, but I'd hate to compromise my budget on something that might not even get there.

I need serious thoughts on this. I have never joined anything like this before, and have always sent my individual protests; however, I never know if they've been received or counted either.

Oh well.

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muggedliberal
07-12-2004, 12:20 AM
After reading this thread, I went to the individual websites of the people listed.. only two, Johnson and Brown, had the guts to mention this little misadventure online. In reading Johnson's press release, the last (and following) paragraph caught my eye:

&quot; In a related development, human rights organizations are also raising concerns about voter participation in this year’s election. For example, the U.S. based human rights group Global Exchange is also appealing to the international community to come and monitor the U.S. electoral process this fall. Global Exchange—which has carried out election monitoring in 10 countries around the world—says that international monitoring of the U.S. political system is crucial for boosting voter confidence and participation in this year’s elections. The group has plans in place to host at least 28 independent, international monitors in the U.S. as part of its Fair Elections initiative.&quot;

It appears that Global Exchange is indeed planning to try to do something like this. They have set up a separate website .. http://www.fairelection.us/.

I'm wondering if this will be allowed? I'm more than concerned about this latest trend. Anyone know the law?

mugged

Original Rebel
07-12-2004, 01:48 AM
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Well ML, this is a little MORE than upsetting/distressing news. I can hardly believe that this sort of thing can be done.

Quote:
&quot;I'm wondering if this will be allowed? I'm more than concerned about this latest trend. Anyone know the law?&quot;

I don't, on something like this anyway. Perhaps a couple of our &quot;onboard&quot; attorneys would care to check this out and inform us. I haven't seen lonelawyer on here for a few days, but I think he, and there's a couple of others who stated they were lawyers, could possibly check into this and see what they can find.

This cannot be allowed to happen.

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Barbarian
07-12-2004, 12:22 PM
I looked at a few (about 15 or so) site links, &quot;who we are&quot; &quot;about us&quot; and such..then I looked at a few names that were on speakers and googled them. Catch words like &quot;imperialist&quot; kept popping up. A few interesting things like educating the USA about Central American problems and racism and voter education. Also I noted with particular interest the disarmament of the USA and demilitarizing the USA goals..some since Vietnam. Many of their favorites have recieved death threats and harrassment, I wonder why. Someone publish a list of where and when they're gonna be monitoring. This is the time for action, legal preferred.

jonalvy44
07-12-2004, 04:05 PM
not on my watch...

what's next, calls for war crimes vs GW? Blue Helmets in the USA?

I'm locked and loaded...

Democratic treachery is reaching all-time lows.

stan25
07-12-2004, 04:27 PM
Quote[/b] ]'m wondering if this will be allowed? I'm more than concerned about this latest trend. *Anyone know the law?

I am not an attorney, but the law is clear.

Quote[/b] ]The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.9

I think that Eddie Bernice Johnson and the “Dirty Dozen”*is trying somethng that is uncontitutional. Typical America haters. What I am wondering is, why are these criminals even in the Congress; when they should be in a Federal Prison for treason?

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rangerrebew
07-22-2004, 10:22 AM
What irony!!! I have posted this in other strands but for those who may not view them, here goes. JFK had a plan for having the UN take over the United States and was originally known as State Department Document 7277. You can find info about it on the web using that header. It then became law as PL 87-297 as has been in effect ever since, being renewed every couple years. For 40 years, our elected officials in congress have continued to fund that bill which gives our military and defense UNILATERALLY to the United Nitwits in hopes of one world government. Why shouldn't the commiecrats want the UN to monitor our elections, its their plan to turn us over to the whims of the United Nitwits and the world that hates us. A rocket scientist isn't needed to figure out what will happen then to this country and its people. Ever wonder why Teddy the red nosed Kennedy and John, the war hero, Kerry consistently vote against strengthening our military or why the commiecrats in general do so? This was commrad JFK's plan and they are trying to fullfill his dream. More than ever we need to unite to wipe out all those who would sell this country to the UN, vote them out of office and replace them with those who love freedom.

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Brenda
07-31-2004, 12:44 AM
SPEAK OUT LOUD OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
Personally, I PRAY the President will not continue to renew this law, if the UN continues down this path of MEDIA-IZED failure and scandal. *
With America's honor at stake, we at ConservativePetition s.com want
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Danny
07-31-2004, 01:04 AM
Well I see nothing but http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif members in here doing the same old everday thing....and of course that would be

LOOKING OUT FOR AMERICA'S BEST INTEREST'S

WHILE THE JACKASSES SEEK TO DESTROY IT

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Hi there Brenda!!!!!!!

Brenda
07-31-2004, 07:37 AM
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I know their are Christian dims, because the dims ran right out from under the Christian voter, HOW many yrs ago? And they are stuck on the wrong side of the fence. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif *HOW DO WE REACH THEM??. Their votes for RIGHT prioities would keep this election anything but &quot;CLOSE&quot; ! ! !

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nalley7445
07-31-2004, 09:14 AM
Why can't we get rid of these people, the U.N. doesn't want
this country on its a.. we're the ones that keeps that sorry
bunch of idiots in business, they better not bite hand that
feeds them.
I think we to get rid of the U.N. we don't need them,
matter of fact they need us more. If we told them to get out
they would be out in the cold for all the money we give to them.

jonessa2
07-31-2004, 09:18 AM
Quote[/b] (Original Rebel @ July 11, 2004 -- 3:32 pm)]http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/star2.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/star2.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/star2.gif

Jonessa, is it kosher to ask who all in the Forum (if you know, that is) is joining in on this &quot;blast fax&quot;? *I realize it is a singular effort, but I'd hate to compromise my budget on something that might not even get there.

I need serious thoughts on this. *I have never joined anything like this before, and have always sent my individual protests; however, I never know if they've been received or counted either.

Oh well.

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I am not proposing that everyone spend money on sending this fax. *It was an email I got that I was sharing with you.

I did not send any fax. *
Rather, I wanted to give you a perspective, and you could do as you feel. *
Just be aware.
Just know where our democrats are coming from. *The lefties wanting to turn more and more of our free will over to an international authority.

This has nothing to do with the forum sending a group anything. I cannot to afford to pay for this either.
It is for you to decide. *Here is an interesting webpage.
THE CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST'S GIANT E-MAIL LINKS PAGE! (http://www.conservativeusa. org/megalink.htm#talk%20 shows)
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Listen, Call, Fax, or send E-Mail to Talk Shows
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jonessa2
07-31-2004, 09:27 AM
Quote[/b] (muggedliberal @ July 11, 2004 -- 10:20 pm)]Global Exchange—which has carried out election monitoring in 10 countries around the world—says that international monitoring of the U.S. political system is crucial for boosting voter confidence and participation in this year’s elections. *The group has plans in place to host at least 28 independent, international monitors in the U.S. as part of its Fair Elections initiative.&quot;

It appears that Global Exchange is indeed planning to try to do something like this. *They have set up a separate website .. http://www.fairelection.us/.

I'm wondering if this will be allowed? I'm more than concerned about this latest trend. *Anyone know the law?

mugged
I wonder if this group is funded by Soros or the Tides Foundation.

jonessa2
07-31-2004, 09:39 AM
Quote[/b] (jonalvy44 @ July 12, 2004 -- 2:05 pm)]not on my watch...

what's next, calls for war crimes vs GW? *Blue Helmets in the USA?

I'm locked and loaded...

Democratic treachery is reaching all-time lows.
Jon, it is comforting knowing your 'eye' is out there.


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jonessa2
07-31-2004, 11:20 AM
Quote[/b] (rangerrebew @ July 22, 2004 -- 8:22 am)]What irony!!! I have posted this in other strands but for those who may not view them, here goes. *JFK had a plan for having the UN take over the United States and was originally known as State Department Document 7277 (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST&f=7&t=13612). *You can find info about it on the web using that header. *It then became law as PL 87-297 as has been in effect ever since, being renewed every couple years. *For 40 years, our elected officials in congress have continued to fund that bill which gives our military and defense UNILATERALLY to the United Nitwits in hopes of one world government. *Why shouldn't the commiecrats want the UN to monitor our elections, its their plan to turn us over to the whims of the United Nitwits and the world that hates us. *A rocket scientist isn't needed to figure out what will happen then to this country and its people. *Ever wonder why Teddy the red nosed Kennedy and John, the war hero, Kerry consistently vote against strengthening our military or why the commiecrats in general do so? *This was commrad JFK's plan and they are trying to fullfill his dream. *More than ever we need to unite to wipe out all those who would sell this country to the UN, vote them out of office and replace them with those who love freedom.

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I did the checking and I can say that when I did the search the state department website did show up with these documents.

It lead me to this document as well.
http://www.sweetliberty.org /issues/un/do.htm
but I found the other things at the website 'home' page rather inflamitory and false. *To be fair. *This this is a legitimate subject.

TITLE 22 &gt; CHAPTER 35 &gt; SUBCHAPTER I &gt;Sec. 2551. - Congressional statement of purpose (http://www4.law.cornell.edu /uscode/22/2551.html)

TITLE 22 &gt; CHAPTER 35 &gt; SUBCHAPTER III &gt; Sec. 2573 - Policy formulation (http://www4.law.cornell.edu /uscode/22/2573.html)

TITLE 22 &gt; CHAPTER 35 &gt; SUBCHAPTER III &gt; Sec. 2571.Sec. 2571. - Research, development and other studies (http://www4.law.cornell.edu /uscode/22/2571.html)
Quote[/b] ]TURN TO PAGE 654. Here you will find it stated as item (a) &quot; control, reduction and elimination of armed forces...&quot; and as Item (d) &quot;...Elimination of armed forces...&quot;.... What you need to know is that your armed forces are being eliminated from national control which, in turn, wipes out our sovereignty as a nation. In two stages, we will have no more army, no more navy, no more air force. In the third stage, we shall have a &quot; zero &quot; military. Before Stage I closes, all citizen owned guns will be banned. ( This is Title 22 USC Section 2571 (a). )


http://www.angelfire.com/mo/greendragon1/page32.html
One can get lost in all this searching. *I hope someone can shed some lite on the veracity of this subject.

Someone is always trying to close bases. *I can see as technology improves, there are ways to do more with less numbers. *But I do not want my military to come under any kind of uN control. *The President has vowed this was not going to happen under his watch. *But I think he is someone Special, and I would wonder if there is anyone his equal. *Nobody that I heard of. *It is something you can look at and hold up to others for comparison. *Noone. *not jeb, not frist. *
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jonessa2
07-31-2004, 12:54 PM
Quote[/b] (Brenda @ July 30, 2004 -- 10:44 pm)]SPEAK OUT LOUD OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
Personally, I PRAY the President will not continue to renew this law, if the UN continues down this path of MEDIA-IZED failure and scandal. *
With America's honor at stake, we at ConservativePetition s.com want
to personally thank you for standing against the 13 Democrats in the
U.S. House of Representatives who chose to humiliate America before
the world by sending a letter to the United Nations that indicates
the Bush Administration, like some tin-pot dictatorship, cannot be
trusted to conduct a fair election. We appreciate you signing the
petition that calls on House leaders to censure the self-absorbed
partisans. If you need to quickly check the petition again, here's
the address:
http://www.conservativepeti tions.com/petitions.php?id=278

You have made your voice heard in House hallways. For the 13 to be
rightfully punished, though, it's going to take a loud outcry! We
the people must make such an outcry that the House has no choice but
to make an example of its embarrassing members.

Tell everyone you know! And in the days ahead, as additional people
come to mind, remember you easily can alert them to this cause! Just
return to the petition at ConservativePetition s.com. Here's the
address:
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For effect, the Congressmen are grossly exaggerating the controversy over the 2000 election, which Democrats wrongly claim was stolen by George W. Bush. The letter shows what great anti-America lengths liberals are willing to go to get their man elected, and why the Representatives must be censured.

Are not these Congressmen sworn to uphold the Constitution that protects America's foundation of independence, of sovereignty from foreign powers and influences, of self-government? Then don't let them get away with their unconstitutional ploy!
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and like you *said.....maybe we can get congress not to approve it this. time.

Brenda
08-01-2004, 08:32 AM
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stan25
08-01-2004, 03:56 PM
Quote[/b] ]But I think he is someone Special, and I would wonder if there is anyone his equal.

That why the one worlders are hell bent on trying to get rid of him. He didn’t toe the line and do what they wanted. The one worlders do not want a soverigen United States, because they know we would resist all of their machinazationa. That is why they are so gung-ho on getting Lurch elected, he see things their way.

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jonessa2
08-01-2004, 06:06 PM
We can see by the on-going additions to the EU (European Union), that groups are amassing under the umbrella and 'protection' of that entity.


We already know that the arabs and the asians are not going to join such an entitiy.

Wouldn't that be something to have instead of individual countries represented at the UN, and it will be CONGLOMERATES sitting at the security council, or for that matter at the UN proper.

Brenda
08-01-2004, 06:15 PM
jonessa2Quote[/b] ]Wouldn't that be something to have instead of individual countries represented at the UN, and it will be CONGLOMERATES sitting at the security council, or for that matter at the UN proper.

This is addressed and explained in the Bible; Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelations.
&quot;It&quot; is not coming, it's already here!

BE SAFE, and May G_D BLESS US ALL, EVERYONE.

jonessa2
08-01-2004, 08:36 PM
It just seems that with all the progress we have made, we seem to be reverting back to what used to be.

When the top meets the bottom, they even out and become the middle.
We have it all, yet we have this huge infux if immigrants that it becomes harder and harder to assimilate into the American culture. Like is sticking with like. And as you say, 'tribes.' I believe we are seeing more and more groups of ethnics located in similar areas.

.....and then we will progress again to where people are blended.

We might even see pink folk creating their own state to maintain their line, much like our Israeli friends.

Too much imagination....

righton
08-02-2004, 12:16 AM
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UN?
Anyone remember the saying &quot;When Hell Freezes Over&quot;?

Let's get rid of the idiots on the list and then go from there.

L &amp; L