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Terri
04-26-2004, 08:04 AM
Radical Muslims Gleeful Over Death of Tillman

By Jeremy Reynalds
Talon News
April 26, 2004

ALBUQUERQUE, NM (Talon News) -- While Americans mourned Army Ranger Pat Tillman, the 27-year-old former Arizona Cardinals and Arizona State University football player who was killed in a firefight in southeast Afghanistan, some radical Muslims expressed a different perspective.

Tillman, who turned down a $3.6 million football contract to enter the Army, was the subject of an article (web site) on a radical Islamic Internet bulletin board sponsored by Yahoo. The piece was headlined "Pat Tillman Killed in the Midst of His Crusade of Religious and Racial Hatred."

Describing his perception of Tillman, the writer commented he was "obviously driven by intense religious and ethnic hatred in the post-9/11 climate. He passed up a $3.6 million contract with the NFL team to be a Ranger, showing that to materialistic kuffar (non-Muslims) such as himself, some things are more important than money ... namely killing thousands of Afghani civilians who were in no way connected to the attacks on 9.11.2001."

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flowerpower
04-26-2004, 08:26 AM
Racial hatred?http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Tillman?http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Now we should be saying to these Islam fanatics....who hates who?http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif You( the muslims) hate us...they made it their goal in life to destroy America. We have given it back in due measure. Someone needs to ask this writer of this...speak to me about your racial hatred.

lpara
04-26-2004, 09:34 AM
<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>I'm not so sure these muslims are so &quot;radical&quot; and &quot;fanatic.&quot; They are just more outspoken and public about it than the others.</span>

Mary-Lou
04-26-2004, 11:03 AM
http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif Right on, Ipara! Sura Five of the Koran (I still spell it that way!) says Muslims should hate the sons of the apes (Jews) and the sons of the pig (Christians). I have not made this up. It's in there. However, say the word &quot;raghead&quot; which is fairly innocuous in comparison and you could lose your job over it!Let's take the Muslims at their word when they declare openly that they hate us and want to kill us all.
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Terri
04-26-2004, 01:54 PM
If it turns out to be true that most Muslims are this radical we are going to have to take the gloves off at some point. Do you think liberals will ever see the need for it or will they just die while proclaiming their political correctness?

pRIMrose
04-26-2004, 02:49 PM
Quote[/b] ]I'm not so sure these muslims are so &quot;radical&quot; and &quot;fanatic.&quot; They are just more outspoken and public about it than the others.

Quote[/b] ]If it turns out to be true that most Muslims are this radical we are going to have to take the gloves off at some point.

I'm sure glad we share the same http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/peepwallA.gif ~ http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif

Terri ~ I believe there are a few who are not this radical. But try and pin one of them down. When push comes to shove, 99% of them will stall and whine about how we are letting (yes I said letting) http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif Sharon abuse the poor Palestinians and that this is the reason that we are so hated by the Arabs.

All I can say, is tough s*** ~ http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

Let's face it ~ the muslim religion is fanatical. There is no way they are going to convert this country to their radical, fanatical doctrine and even the most religious among us aren't going stop whatever they're doing so they can fall on their knees five times a day. It's not our faith, it's not our culture and it's not even reasonable. I can't think of another religion that advocates &quot;hate the infidels.&quot; One day I think the blinders will come off and the normal people in this country will demand that there be some accountability for what is being taught in muslim schools and mosques. Until then, they will continue to hide behind their so called religiosity and cry about being picked on for being muslim.

Sorry, but that dog just won't hunt anymore. At least not for me. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

MamaCat
04-26-2004, 11:25 PM
Let me preface what I am going to say below by saying unequivocally that I believe that our government has done the right thing by declaring war on terrorism and going after those who wreak havoc on society by random acts of terror. *I believe that President Bush is the right man in the right place at the right time, and that it is by the hand of the Almighty that he is in office at this time. *I support our president without reservation.

BUT, that being said, I would like to add that neither individuals nor nations can be &quot;won over&quot; to a new way of thinking or living by force. *Wiping out cities or even groups of people with bombs or other weapons, no matter how evil they may be, is not going to enamour (spelling?) their countrymen. *Indeed, it will make them more defensive and then perhaps more aggressive towards us. *(Check out the Bible if you would like confirmation of that principle.) * *If we resort to that, then we are no better than the terrorists. * We DO have to hold men accountable for their actions and bring them to justice, but we have to be discriminating in how we do that. * Surely not an easy task.

Think of it. *If a father beats his son to get him to &quot;obey&quot;, what will be the long term effect of that physical punishment? *Rebellion and hatred. * Hatred and violence begets hatred and violence. *

I believe that President Bush understands this, and perhaps that is why militarily things in Iraq are moving too slowly for some. *Perhaps the terrorists only understand force and violence, but I don't believe the good people of Iraq think like the terrorists. *They are caught in the middle, and if we're not careful, we will alienate them and lose the opportunity to help them achieve peace. *We cannot force these people. *We have to show them by example. *And I don't think bombing the daylights out of them sets a very good example. *We need to reach them on a different level -- we need to educate their children and also the adults in the principles of democracy, teach them respect for others, even when they are different or have different beliefs. *This is the only way we have a ghost of a chance of winning them over.

I am not a pacifist. *I believe there are things that are worth fighting for. *I just think we have to be very careful how we go about trying to &quot;inflict&quot; democracy on Iraq. *

God Bless America, and God bless our leaders with His wisdom in this situation.

pRIMrose
04-27-2004, 05:51 AM
Quote[/b] ]BUT, that being said, I would like to add that neither individuals nor nations can be &quot;won over&quot; to a new way of thinking or living by force.

Let me preface my statement http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif with the fact that I in no way advocate using WMD, but I have to respectfully disagree with the premise that nations/individuals cannot be &quot;won over&quot; to a new way of thinking by force. It worked very effectively in Japan. They are now an independent free society and an ally. Some people only respond to force, and I think that the muslims better learn quickly whether they want to http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fish.gif or cut bait. We aren't going to tolerate our troops being killed indefinitely with terrorists running loose at will. One very loud &quot;boom&quot; of a message would make them stand up and take notice. They must decide whether they want to be free by choice or by force. They will have to sacrifice for their own freedom ~ or be dragged kicking and screaming into it. We have come too far to let the whole thing unravel while we play &quot;nicey nice&quot; with illiterate groupies who have learned to play us like a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nopityA.gif

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