Monday, April 26, 2004

[lpara]

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'><span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:teal'>Time to start another week and why not start it off on the right foot with a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cup.gif some http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sun1.gif and throw in a dash of http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif and if you still need help after all that, you might find some KK's in the snack drawer http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yes.gif</span>

<span style='color:purple' >Wise Words

"[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." --Samuel Adams</span>

<span style='color:black'> Words to Weigh In On

U.S., allies optimistic on economy (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=25;t=11245;r=1;&#top)

U.S. Extends Fallujah Cease-Fire 2 Days (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=18;t=11246;r=1;&#top)

Check this out . . . you won't believe what goes on in the name of education http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=24;t=11247;r=1;&#top)</span>

<span style='color:blue'> Words to Use http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whisper.gif

cloud-cuckoo-land \klowd-KOO-koo-land\ noun

: a realm of fantasy or of whimsical or foolish behavior

If John Kerry really thinks he can get the UN to help him if he is elected, he is living in cloud-cuckoo-land.</span>

<span style='color:green'>Hopefully, now you are filled to the brim with your http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/f_coffee.gif and KK's and are ready to embark on a new day. As you remember all those who are serving in our military and in harm's way, say a prayer for them and look in yesterday's precinct for ways to lift them up with letters, etc. Remember also, our president, his administration and all those involved in making decisions on our behalf. Keep your http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif flying high, your http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bushsign.gif out in the front yard (preferably with the neon lights so no one can miss it http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) and convert as many liberals as you can before you call it a day! Have a good one everyone!</span></span></span>

[stormy]

Good Morning, Laurie & ALL http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/members.gif and lurkers--you know who you are!

Surely wish some more of you new people would come in here and post so we could get to know you! * Seems we have about 500 new members and the postings in the precinct haven't picked up! * But, then, Dave might not be able to keep 600 or 700 of us full of KK's each day! *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

Thank you, Laurie, for the link to the Hostas--they are beautiful--I loved a lot of them. * My closest sister is named Verna, but those weren't quite pretty enough for her! * She's one of those people who deserves the prettiest there is--you know the kind who is always doing for others, cooking meals for the sick, visiting at home and in the hospital, etc. * And, her husband is a real gem, too! * http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yes.gif

Oh, dear, there I go getting personal again, huh? *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif *

Charie, thanks for tucking us in--but, why did you http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smash.gif us right after you gave us a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kiss.gif goodnight http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif , you can http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whisper.gif the answer to my question that I asked yesterday--about the "Doctor's" degree! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

See ya'll later in the day.

Stormy the OLD http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/granny.gif of http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif saying a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sun1.gif y good day to all!

[termind]

Hi Laurie, Hi Stormy, Hi Everyone. Let's start off our week with a "small" http://www.terminweb.com/weblog/images/smallkk.jpg delivery -- just enough for 600 or 700 or so for now. We'll bring more later to keep the supply fresh.

We had a busy Sunday here. The yard and flower beds are finally starting to show off their springtime beauty. Linda and I worked hard enough yesterday that we're looking forward to going to work today so we don't have to work so hard...

This will be just a quick dash in, but promise to drop by later. Remember to enjoy the http://www.terminweb.com/weblog/images/smallkk.jpgs. They're a good way to stay away from cloud-cuckoo-land.

Later...

[pRIMrose]

<span style='color:ff69B4' >Good morning Laurie, stormy & Dave! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/daisy.gif http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/ylflower.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/daisy.gif</span>

<span style='color:0066ff' ><span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>Dave ~ I agree, I need to go to work to get some rest from working in the yard. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif But the flowers are all so pretty and there's always just one more that needs planting. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

Stormy ~ don't worry about the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif 's head getting too big for his http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hat1.gif ~ I know where he works and one trip down there with my http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rockingchair.gif and http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollpin.gif will whittle it right back to size. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinangelA.gif

Laurie ~ that word "cloud-cuckoo-land" sounds like a good description of most liberals. And especially the Hollyweird bunch. Instead of "la la land." http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif

Looks like things are heating up in Falluhaj. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif I sure wish they'd get off the pot and get it over with. We know they aren't going to turn in their weapons. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/doh.gif

Wonder why those two lawyers decided to abandon poor misunderstood MJ? Maybe they just didn't want to interfere with his newfound religion. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif

Laurie ~ great Sam Adams quote. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/twothumbsup.gif He's one of my favs.

Lots of good reading out in the forums, so pick a topic and let us know how you feel.

TODAY'S PEARLS OF WISDOM!

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln

Have a great day ~ http://img.villagephotos.co m/p/2003-10/419342/banana.gif Live, love, laugh and be happy. http://img.villagephotos.co m/p/2003-10/419342/Mouse-Face.gif</span></span>

[Leelanau]

Good Morning!

I just found out something interesting while doing research for my new business. Guess what language (as in country) is not selling, at all, in the homeschool curriculum? Not sure? FRENCH! I just loved that! The second language having a downturn is..... SPANISH! I guess conservative families are just not as concerned about "globalization" as a few months ago! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Well, I guess I should eat something and then it's time to hit the books!

[Terri]

<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>News posted in the forum:</span><ul> Kerry Blames 'Family' for Owning SUV While Calling for Increased Fuel Efficiency (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=8;t=11264)
Likely Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry, who has railed against President George W. Bush and his administration's energy policy, told reporters last Thursday that his family owns and drives the SUV parked in his driveway, not him.

Radical Muslims Gleeful Over Death of Tillman (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=1;t=11267)
While Americans mourned Army Ranger Pat Tillman, the 27-year-old former Arizona Cardinals and Arizona State University football player who was killed in a firefight in southeast Afghanistan, some radical Muslims expressed a different perspective.

Abortion-Rights Marchers Vow to Fight Another Bush Term (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=11;t=11252)
Hundreds of thousands of abortion rights supporters rallied Sunday in the nation's capital, protesting the policies of the Bush administration and its conservative allies and vowing to fight back in the November election.

New Details on Saudi Help in Iraq War (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=3;t=11253)
During the Iraq war, Saudi Arabia (search) secretly helped the United States far more than has been acknowledged, allowing operations from at least three air bases, permitting special forces to stage attacks from Saudi soil and providing cheap fuel, U.S. and Saudi officials say.

Bashir Wants Syrian WMD Out of Sudan (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=18;t=11265)
The Sudanese Defense Ministry and Interior Ministry have confirmed a report earlier this month that Syria has been secretly flying Scud-class missiles and WMD components to Khartoum. Now the regime of Sudanese President Omar Bashir has ordered that Syria remove the weapons.

MoveOn Markets Bush-Bashing Punk Rock Compilation CD (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=11;t=11266)
MoveOn.org has teamed up with a record company to promote an overtly anti-Bush music compilation designed to "educate" young "potheads" about the political process by describing Bush as a "buffoon."

Teresa Heinz Kerry: Abortion 'Stops Process of Life' (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=8;t=11241)
In the current issue of Newsweek, Teresa Heinz Kerry tells Contributing Editor Melinda Henneberger: "I'm more old-fashioned than a lot of women...I don't view abortion as just a nothing. It is stopping the process of life."

Karen Hughes blasts Kerry's Vietnam comments (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=8;t=11242)
One of President Bush's closest confidants challenged Sen. John Kerry on Sunday to further explain comments he made in 1971 that he participated in "atrocities" in Vietnam.

Black GOP leader reconciles past (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=8;t=11254)
Johnny Hunter is a staunch supporter of Gov. Jeb Bush, and recently he attended a Republican Party function in Washington, D.C. As president of the newly chartered SaraMana Black Republican Club, one of only four such organizations in the state, he helps recruit minorities into the Republican Party.

Discarded Decorations: Videotape Contradicts John Kerry’s Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=28;t=11257)
Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president, Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in Vietnam.

U.S., allies optimistic on economy (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=25;t=11245)
America and its wealthy allies expressed optimism yesterday about the global economy, saying overall prospects have improved despite worries about rising oil prices and violence in the Middle East.

New report critical of Patriot Act (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=18;t=11236)
Muslim and Arab groups in California have borne a "substantial" share of scrutiny through new laws and immigration policies enacted in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according a report by the state Senate Office of Research.

Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=18;t=11251)
The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered, counterterrorism officials say.[/list]
<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>Editorials and Commentary:</span>

<ul> <a href="http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=22;t=11262" target="_blank">Lest We Forget - Bobby Eberle
</a>
It was a bright, beautiful day in Washington, DC. Not a single cloud could be found in the blue sky that welcomed in the late summer day. On that Tuesday morning, I rode in my friend's convertible with the top down, soaking in the sun and taking in the crisp, fresh air. I was on my way to the final session of a political conference being held in a hotel near the Pentagon.

Republican 'Moderates' Only Advance Liberalism ~ By Chris Adamo (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=23;t=11263)
Slowly, reluctantly, grassroots conservatives are waking up to the fact that their agenda is being systematically undermined and thwarted. Worse yet, this is consistently happening at the hands of Republicans. The GOP controls the Senate, the House of Representatives, and the White House. The overwhelming majority of Supreme Court Justices are Republican appointees. And Republicans hold the majority of state governorships. Yet the moral bankruptcy of the counterculture relentlessly advances.

The War For The Soul Of America - Keeping God In Our Pledge - Kevin Fobbs & Lisa Sarrach (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=24;t=11261)
Fifty years ago, young children all across America walked into their respective school rooms and with pride bursting in their young chests they recited the Pledge of Allegiance, and there was a new and deeper meaning reflected in the new addition to this pledge. The addition was "One nation under God."

Unanswered questions: 2004 ~ By Mike Adams (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=24;t=11247)
Well, it’s happened again. Recently, one of my liberal readers wrote to chastise me for my arrogance and condescension. Of course, I’m not really arrogant and condescending but he doesn’t know that because he’s not as smart as I am.[/list]

[Der Alte]

Good Morning All: Partly sunny and warm in NC this morning, but Flower has promised rain and rain it will be - later this afternoon. We certainly need it but you can leave the thunder-buimpers out.

Congratulations to all of our Wyoming friends. Numbers USA is reporting that pressure from constitutients has caused Sen Michael Enzi to retract his support of S-1645(Agjobs Amnesty). Another case of where our writing to our Reps and Senators can have a positive effect.

Finally seeing where the Clintons want Kerry to represent the Dimocratic party because they are sure he cannot beat Bush. Maybe thats the reason the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/broomstick.gif has been so quiet.

Leelanau, thats one of the reasons the French don't like the US - after WWII, English supplanted French as the language of international trade. This was primarily the result of the English speaking Americans, British, Canadians and Australians on occupation duty all over the world and the surge of US manufacturing, supplying the worlds needs.

Have a great day and I'll see you later.

-30-

[Jeff]

Good morning, All,
I hope you all had a great weekend and that you're even more Republican than ever! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Isn't it "ironic" that Kerry's wife, Teresa, seems to be the exact opposite of him on major issues? Or is that just a ploy they're using for some twisted reason? I would think that by driving a wedge between them politically, the wife-person would give the country the impression that " gee, this man can't even handle his own household...why should we let him take a shot at handling the whole country?" Go Teresa! Go Teresa! Go Teresa! Whhhheeeeeee!

Isn't it also "ironic" that this man Kerry who railed against us horrible Viet Nam Vets as murderers and baby-killers, is so enthusiastic about maintaining the pathetic "right" of American women to get involved in the wholesale, heartless slaughter of the unborn? Hmmmm...sad. This guy is really, really sad.

On a brighter note, it's wonderful to see you all and I wish you all the very best of days! "God is good...all the time. All the time....God is good." Keep smiling and maximize your day!

[Granite River]

Good morning all.

Fallujah is still a major pain for our military and a giant political concern. President Bush wants to let the Marines stomp through there but has to weigh the effect tough action will have here and in the Arab world and the effect that weak action will have. I think that strong action is what our people want and what will best serve to show the Arab world that we mean to win in Iraq. Negotiating is a sign of weakness to Arabs. I want to see more tanks and heavy bombing.

Kerry is running from his Vietnam war protesting as best he can but he can’t make himself totally reject his pro communist leaning from his youth(27 years old). No sooner than Kerry clarified that he had thrown away his ribbons ABC turned up a tape from the 70s where he said that he threw away his medals. Too many in the press and on the Republican side give kerry credit for his service as if it out weights the disservice that that his protesting caused.

[MamaCat]

Quote[/b] ]Isn't it "ironic" that Kerry's wife, Teresa, seems to be the exact opposite of him on major issues? Or is that just a ploy they're using for some twisted reason?

If she was married to Heinz, a Republican, for 25 years, I would think it would be quite difficult for her to swallow the dem platform. From what little I've read about her, things she has said, etc, I get the idea she's a pretty "independent" gal. But my guess is that she stands on opposite sides of the issues from Kerry more than she lets on.

[Granite River]

I expect that Teresa knows that jk is as plastic as a squeeze bottle. She understands that he will say anything to get elected and she must know that he doesn’t have much chance of winning.

[Charie]

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Beautiful sunny day. Supposed to get in the high 50s. Maybe the Hub will go out and mow the lawn. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif Either that or I'll have to borrow one of your sheep, pRIM. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif Wonder how much it would cost to ship one by FedEx? I could probably buy one more cheaply.

Have to go to the dentist this morning so this will be short if not sweet.

Charlie Sykes is talking about Kerry's medals, the ones he kept safely back home when he threw someone else's medals and said they were his. I remember him saying a short while ago that he only threw his ribbons, no medals. That man is such a liar you should be able to walk over Niagara Falls on it. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pinocchio.gif

Whether he threw his own over the wall is beside the point. The symbolism is what counts anyhow. He has a link on his website that calls it a smear campaign by the Republicans. Kerry is a master at obfuscation. It's the only thing he's good at. I think the reason he threw someone else's medals is so he could use them in the future for his senatorial campaigns. AND display them in his senate office. Liar, liar, yer pants are on fire. Yer nose is as long as a telephone wire. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nahna.gif

Quote[/b] ]If she was married to Heinz, a Republican, for 25 years, I would think it would be quite difficult for her to swallow the dem platform

I think she's always been leftwing. The Tides Foundation is leftwing and I believe she is quite active in the management of it.

I like the Lincoln quote, pRIM. I swear, every time the man opened his mouth he said something worth quoting.

Have to go. One of my new fillings seems to have lost a piece of itself, too. Not happy about that.

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[lpara]

Quote[/b] ]Too many in the press and on the Republican side give kerry credit for his service as if it out weights the disservice that that his protesting caused.

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>Right you are! I get so http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/madgo.gif when I hear Sean call him a war hero http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/noway.gif He was most definitely not a a war hero. He served because he had to for like 3 or 4 months only~~while everyone else served for 18 months or 3 sets of 18 months (I'm not sure of the length of time that normal people served) or something like that! I want to SCREAM everytime I hear the accolades on Kerry http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/teeth2.gif

Pass me a donut, my BP is rising . . .

BTW~~ http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif everyone! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinangelA.gif</span>

[Floridaguy]

<span style='color:gray'><span style='font-size:11pt;line-height:100%'>Good Morning y'all!</span></span> Well, it is getting hotter here, real quicklike. Florida is not even "pretending" to get down into the 60s at night anymore. Woke up this morning and was already 72 outside. Supposed to be in the high 80s again. While this might sound good in Denver, it is a pain here, cuz the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/orange.gif harvesters are not too thrilled by hot weather http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sun1.gif . *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *Welcome to our new members. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif *BTW, JFTR, my "doctoral" degree isn't worth much more than the paper it is written on, outside of the SW Florida scouting community. It is just a little way our council gives a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hat1.gif to the scout leaders who take the extra time to get much more in depth training to help the youth in their troops and districts. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif *

Hope y'all enjoyed the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/coffee.gif today. I made a pot this morning of some of our Cuban "Cubito" brand, extra strong. I dipped a KK in it, but it was never to be seen again. I'm sure it was somewhere in that cup. Let's just say I was careful not to stick my finger in there with it! *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Charie, thanks for the goonight http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kiss.gif last night and tucking in. An informal survey of some members indicates you should do that every night. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Quote[/b] ]From what little I've read about her, things she has said, etc, I get the idea she's a pretty "independent" gal. *But my guess is that she stands on opposite sides of the issues from Kerry more than she lets on. IMHO, Teresa is becoming a very good secret weapon, unbeknownst to her, against her hubby. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif I hope she just keeps on keeping on, being her independent willful unapolegetic self. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

RIM, dearest, for someone who knows where I work, I have found it a bit difficult to ever meet with you for lunch, etc. Then again, your friends might think I am your long lost grandson. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rotflo.gif

BBL.... off to stir the pot in the threads. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

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[Floridaguy]

Hey, *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif lookee what I found in our local paper today....

<span style='color:black'>"I talked to him about that," said Nancy Mihm, the chairwoman for Bush's re-election effort in Sarasota County.

Mihm was one of three Sarasota residents invited to Naples to greet the president at the airport during his visit there Friday. Sarasota residents Rory Dubin and Frances Rice, both campaign workers for the re-election team, joined Mihm for the event.

Mihm said after shaking hands with Bush, she urged him to return to the area.</span>

President promises to try to visit Sarasota-Manatee (http://www.heraldtribune.co m/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040426/NEWS/404260423/1270/NEWS0101)

(Technically, the paper got it wrong. We met him in Ft. Myers, not Naples).

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[Granite River]

Ipara, a normal American served for a year at a time. *If your job was critical, as mine was, you could go right out of tech school to Vietnam and then after a little time back here you would go back for your last year. *A lot of the bomb handlers went to Vietnam for a year and then ended their service in Thailand where most of the Air Force bases were. *Kerry spent four months and got a handful of medals one a sliver star for killing a wounded man in violation of the law. *I spent twenty months in Thailand and earned a Commendation Medal when our bomb bump blew up. *One of our EOD guys earned a Bronze Star for going right up to the bombs that were on fire and looking over the wall to see what was happening. *Just minutes after he looked into the revetment 400 750 pound bombs detonated at once. *The concussion almost knocked me off of my feet two miles away and our table collapsed. *Those EOD guys were insane. *Their job was to disarm damaged munitions. *In Vietnam a man was putting delay fuses in bombs when he dropped on of the fuses but went ahead and screwed it into a bomb. *Then after the bomb was already loaded on to a plane he remembered that the fuse works by acid eating plastic discs that prevent the firing pin from moving. He couldn’t know if the acid vile had broken or not but the EOD had no choice but to try to disarm the bomb before the acid did its thing. *The fuse is designed to come apart if the enemy tries to remove it so to get it out the fuse is frozen with liquid nitrogen and then unscrewed with a rocket powered wench that pulls it away from the bomb so fast that if the fuse fires it will not set off the booster. *We don’t know what went wrong but nine people were killed when the bomb exploded setting fire to the whole flight line. *Fire bombs were stacked behind the planes so all of them went up and the whole thing caused a big mess before they got it under control.

While President Bush is speaking in Minnesota C-SPAN is replaying a couple of anti American events from last week. *One is a Time photojournalist who thinks the most important part of the killing of the four Americans in Fallujah is to show the anger in Fallujah.

A building suspected of having chemical weapons inside explored when our people tried to get inside. *Two dead and more huts.

PS, This is where you can go to make suggestions to President Bush; https://sawho14.eop.gov/PERSdata/intro.htm.

65% of American support our actions in Iraq so I would step up the force in Fallujah.

[stan25]

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It is another bright http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sunflower.gif day here in Central Wyoming. Hopefully the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/raincloud.gif will hold off until this evening when we are in the house. Temps are expected to get into the 70s in the lower elevations (4000-6000ft above sea level).

I see the kk stack is quite large this morning. The kk fairy must have shown up with his cargo jet. Hmmmm!!! Now where did Dave hide the chocolate sprinkled ones? Aha found ‘em. Now to head over to http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cup.gif rack and pour some hot http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/f_coffee.gif Now I all *I need is a shot of Jack Daniels for an eye opener.

Quote[/b] ]Congratulations to all of our Wyoming friends. *Numbers USA is reporting that pressure from constitutients has caused Sen Michael Enzi to retract his support of S-1645(Agjobs Amnesty). *Another case of where our writing to our Reps and Senators can have a positive effect.

Thanks DA. We still have a little clout here in Wyoming. Our other Senator (Craig Thomas) helped us to defeat this awful bill.

I found a poll that NewMax.com has been conducting for the last several weeks. I posted the preliminary results last night after getting it in an email. It is quite revealing.

Read in an article where Clinton’s book will be release about the time of the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jacka.gif convention. Anything to steal the limelight. Oh well, It will keep the liberal media’s mind and eyes off President Bush for a few days. I sure hope that no one here will buy this piece of pornography.

From the land of queers and steers. The DA in San Francisco will not seek the death penalty in the murder of San Fran cop. The police force is *wanting the DA to recuse herself from the case.

Hey http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif want to thank you for your participation in one of America’s greatest youth groups. We need more people like you to promote the benefits of scouting.

BBL going to read some more posts in the forum. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bushsign.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bushsign.gif

[Granite River]

Last night I thought I would remind Y’all what basket case means. *It is how dems come back from a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/elefant.gif encounter.

[Mary-Lou]

http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif Hi Y'all! I had to go to the dentist this morning too. Charie, I hope your visit was painless und uneventfull. Unfortunately, the dentist found a cracked tooth which needs a crown and another that needs lots of work too. Big Bucks ahead. Anyway, the article about Muslims cheering the death of a true American Hero, Pat Tillman, was quite revealing. It reminds us who we're dealing with out there. How many remember the arabs dancing in the streets on 9/11? I, for one, will NEVER forget it.
Luv
ML

[Terri]

Good Morning, well afternoon for many of you! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif

Vice President Cheney is giving a very good speech on Fox right now. Not sure who he's speaking to.

Stormy, there are lots of new folks out in the forum talking about various issues.

Floridaguy, 60s at night? That sounds like July here. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin5.gif We have 30s at night now but a heat wave is coming tomorrow. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif What am I supposed to use for that Cuban coffee? My http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/f_coffee.gif keeps dissolving. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif

[CLAIRE]

Had a pretty bad week, but I just loved reading all the past few days comments. Seems my surgery bothered the screws in both broken hips, and also caused th e MS to activate. I was feeling a little sorry for myself, which is not my usual thing, and then I heard about Pat Tillman being killed, and the sacrifices he made for his country. I sat and cried for that young man and hjis family. Then I looked in the mirror, and said to myself,You've got one hell of a nerve feeling so worry for yourself when he, at 27, was willing to give all he had for the sake of our country. Alkl the service people are heroes, but that guy is really special. I feel much better now that I've faced a bit of reality, and am back to who I am.

If I hear another person, especially a republican, heap all that praise on Kerry for what a HERO he was in Nam, I don't know what I'll do. A hero does not betray his buddies and comrades in combat, Quite frankly, I don't believe he actually "won" any medals, and God only knows how he actually got them. He strikes me as such a pathological and accomplished liar, that he has done this all his life, gotten away with it and trulybelieves whatever he does or says is AOK.. That.s his opiion of himself, but I believe in the America People, and everyone is not stupid and if we give him enough rope he will hang himself. PLEASE GOD

Time for a nap[. See "ya later. OUR PRAYERS FOR GOD'S BLEESSINGS ON ALL OUR TROOPS, OUR PRESIDENT AND OUR COUNTRY.

[Terri]

Hi Claire, it's good to see you. I'm sorry to hear you had a bad week. I think the news about Pat Tillman was a downer for all of us. His story gives us a face for all the casualties we're hearing about.

Some of you might enjoy replying to a moderate Republican in this topic. (http://www.gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.pl?act=ST; f=23;t=11263)

[Granite River]

Man is it humid here in central Texas.

CLAIRE, as brave and tough as Pat Tillman was I’ll bet he would rather have faced the terrorists in the frozen mountains of Afghanistan than go through what you have had no choice but to endure.

Kerry got a bronze star for pulling a soldier out of the river, supposedly under fire. Then he got a silver star for killing a wounded Vietcong who had already been shot by a 50 caliber machine gun. He got three purple hearts for scratching himself on the arms and legs. His first wound occurred on a patrol where there was no enemy action on that day. His commander refused to put him in for a medal because there had been no action that day but kerry went to the hospital and got a Band-Aid on his arm so his commander later relented.

I have to finish fixing the brakes on the green Dodge so I’ll see you kids later.

[Terri]

From CNN's main page:

BREAKING NEWS - Jordanian authorities say they broke up alleged al Qaeda plot to unleash deadly chemical cloud in heart of Amman. Details soon.

This sounds just like the story that we had a week ago. Don't know if this is new or if it's breaking because CNN finally found out about it. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif

The big explosions in Fallujah today were from a chemical house that our soldiers encountered. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

Of course, this means nothing to liberals. Repeat after me, there are no WMDs in Iraq. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/doh.gif *

And none were taken out of Iraq to Syria, Jordan or any other place. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/it.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

[pRIMrose]

Afternoon all! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif

Quote[/b] ]While President Bush is speaking in Minnesota C-SPAN is replaying a couple of anti American events from last week.

GR ~ more times than not I've turned off C-SPAN because of their left leaning. But I do give them credit for airing Charlie Sykes several years ago when he was pushing his book "Dumbing Down Our Kids." What a wealth of information in that book. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yes.gif

Quote[/b] ]I sure hope that no one here will buy this piece of pornography.

Stan, I wouldn't buy a book writen by a Clinton if they paid me double what it sells for. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ugh.gif That would be masochism to the max. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ugh.gif

Quote[/b] ] Anyway, the article about Muslims cheering the death of a true American Hero, Pat Tillman, was quite revealing. It reminds us who we're dealing with out there.

ML ~ too bad the Euroweenies haven't gotten the message yet. Any maybe even a few morons right here in the good old US of A. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/fire.gif

Quote[/b] ]What am I supposed to use for that Cuban coffee?

Terri ~ I think you use a chipping hammer. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

Hi CLAIRE ~ sorry to hear you've been having a bad time. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif Hope things get better soon. I think we all have times when we feel down, it's just human nature. But when you hear about all our brave young soldiers who are dying for us, it kind of puts things in perspective. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yes.gif

Quote[/b] ] Repeat after me, there are no WMDs in Iraq.
And none were taken out of Iraq to Syria, Jordan or any other place.

Terri ~ the words just won't seem to come out. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/terrified.gif


Quote[/b] ] Then again, your friends might think I am your long lost grandson.

No danger ~ all my grandsons would have had hair. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nahna.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whistle.gif But they probably wouldn't have been nearly as cute. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/winkie.gif

Think I'll go see if there are any KK's left to go with my chili. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/food.gif

BBAW ~ http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/bye%20bye.gif

[Granite River]

OK Terri, let me see if I can follow your thinking. * In spite of what the liberal horde is willing to swear to the almighty, you think that a plan to use WMDs next door in Jordan and the statement from the Israeli intelligence guy that Saddam moved WMDs to Syria and Jordan that makes you think that Saddam did have WMDs?

<span style='color:red'>NEWS ALLERT:</span> Big explosion in Najaf

[Charie]

Well, Mary-Lou, my visit to the dentist was relatively painless because I never went. *I was walking to the bedroom with clean socks in my hand to get my shoes so I could head for Appleton, when the phone rang. *It was the appointment gal. *"Char, did you forget your dental appointment?" *"Not me. *I'm *just about ready to go out the door." *"But Char, your appointment was for 10:00." *"OMG, I have 11:00 on my calendar." *

They do call a day ahead to remind you, but I remembered it so when the AG called as soon as I heard who it was (answering machine) I hung up. *Guess I have to listen to the whole thing from now on. *They won't charge me for a missed appointment, though. *>Whew< *(Sweat flying!) *So now Wednesday is my day to go.

What a lot of words to say I missed an appointment. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Claire, I'm so sorry you had a bad week. *Screws in both hips doesn't sound like any picnic in the park and then having an operation that bothered them sounds like you had about as much as you needed. *God bless and ease you.

VP Cheney was reciting a litany of positions that Kerry has taken on various subjects. *He's been on every side of every one of them. He *stated nothing more than the truth, but it will be termed "the Republican attack machine".

I'm so glad you liked your good-night http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kiss.gif . *But you didn't seem to like the sedative I applied. *I only distributed them because I didn't want you up wandering into the kitchen and stuffing your faces with KKs. *Figured that with all the coffee that's consumed here, you probably all sleep very lightly, if at all.

Quote[/b] ]RIM, dearest, for someone who knows where I work, I have found it a bit difficult to ever meet with you for lunch, etc. Then again, your friends might think I am your long lost grandson

pRIM, this whippersnapper just doesn't know enough to quit when he's ahead. *I have my http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rockingchair.gif all fired up. *Ready when you are, ma'am!! *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/salute1.gif



Quote[/b] ]I have to finish fixing the brakes on the green Dodge so I’ll see you kids later.

Just stay away from the hammer, please. *You can't post here with no operable thumbs. *Or at least not easily.

It's time to go do the white stripes for the flag. *Took me about an hour and a half just to do the red ones yesterday. *It should go more quickly this time seeing as how I have all the measurements and methods down, now.

Going to a big "do" in Milwaukee tomorrow for one of the Senatorial candidates. *6 of us are going in a van. *It's being called "The Girl's Bus Trip" *It's at the Pabst Theater which I've never seen and, I believe, is on the National Historical Registry. Laurie, you've probably seen it. *Have you ever been in it. *Or how about you, Jonessa? * We got a list of their hors d'oeuvres and they sound quite fabulous. *We wanted to know if we should have dinner before we went. *

Time to go do my Betsy Ross thing. *Wait. *First I have to dig out my mob cap!! *Borrowed it from "The Sopranos". *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

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pRIM, you sneaked in just before me. *Here I was all ready to start rocking on http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif s feet shod in his http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif boots and no steels toes and here you are being just a little sassy as in http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nahna.gif *Gee, I wish I was a nice person! *Darn! *Drat! *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bawl.gif *Oh well, maybe GR will come up with something so we can all rock on his toes!! *Just so I don't waste the LOX fuel, you understand.

[Granite River]

Charie, I didn’t hit my finger. I hit my wife’s finger.

People who advocate negotiation in Fallujah don’t understand that the people of Fallujah will never like us until we get rid of the terrorists who are in control of their city.

[Mary-Lou]

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I wish I had saved the link, and I WILL do a search and post it later if I find it. There are several articles out there about the Chem weapons found in Jordan that were being brought in from Syria that were originally trucked into Syria from Iraq. Word has it that over 20,000 Jordanians could have been killed by the amount confiscated.
Also articles on Al Qaeda and Palestinian Terr links with Saddam. I'll get right on it!
Luv
ML

[Mary-Lou]

http://www.worldnetdaily.co m/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=38213 :
usflag22: http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif Hi Y'all!
The above is one link I found, and the other is something called The "Hudson Institute"
I'll keep looking!

[termind]

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Good news for the http://www.terminweb.com/weblog/images/smallkk.jpg man today. After several weeks of rumors, I've confirmed a reassignment at work. No change in status, responsibility, etc., but a very positive change in workgroups and bosses. I'll be joining a group known for superior results and common sense. Tooting my http://www.terminweb.com/weblog/images/smallkk.jpg horn seems to have paid off.

Quote[/b] (Granite River @ April 26, 2004 -- 3:00 pm)]People who advocate negotiation in Fallujah don’t understand that the people of Fallujah will never like us until we get rid of the terrorists who are in control of their city.
You're very right, GR. We keep hearing how ready the Marines are. Let's get off the dime and take action.

If I hear Senator Kerry utter the phrase "Republican attack ads" one more time... I did hear a little bit of Vice President Cheney's speech. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/clap.gif Very unflattering to the junior senator from Massachusetts.

Blood pressure medicine for Laurie: http://www.terminweb.com/weblog/images/smallkk.jpg. *Anyone else?

Later...

[Pa.Dutchman]

Only One can reach Islam

I was involved with Prison Ministry for nearly 14 yrs. going into the local prison at least once a week and twice some weeks. It all began as the result of our family suffering as the victims of a serious felony. I had given my life to Christ some years before, but had taken it back before this took place. For a year I made every effort to hate the individual with all my being. I thought of nothing else concerning him, but to see him pay with the most difficult of penalties.

But, in time the hate was destroying me. My family was suffering as the result of my hate. One night at the end caring anymore I prayed. For the first time in a couple years I prayed, and one year since this happened.

I knew immediately I would have to forgive the individual and pray for him and his salvation. This took away the hate and the damage all this was doing to me spiritually, physically, emotionally and to our family.

I mention this only because sometimes I could not see how a person could hate another because of the color of an individuals skin, or a different language etc.

I had tried to hate one person for an extended period and the more I tried the more the hate was destroying me.

When our sons were younger one Saturday I was helping with our sons' Boy Scout Troop. We were going to Valley Forge with several other troops. Our son had a close friend all through school who was the son of a radically mixed couple. He was a fine young man well behaved and everything a parent would want in a son. Suddenly out of nowhere a scout from another troop kicked this boy in the worse of spots for a any male.

I grabbed the boy and pulled him off. I said "what is wrong with you, scouts don't do that kind of thing!" He said that kid is a n----r and all n----s are no good. I said that is not true!! This boy said to me, "it is true, my father told me that and my father has never lied to me!" How does one fight this kind of thinking.

In time I met a young man of Arab decent. He told us how he was taught to hate Jews. He learned this with his reading and writing skills, he was taught this from his earliest days, hate Jews. He never knew any, but he was to hate them and hate them he did. Then he came to Christ, that changed everything.

I saw an interview with a man with aids, he said "I am gong to die and I am going to take as many with me as I can." His reasoning comes right out of h----. Satan is going to h- - -. He knows it and he want to take as many with him as he can. These Muslim murders are not worshiping the God and Father of our Lord. They are completely blind to the fact they are following Satan who is leading them and theirs to h----. He too knows where he is headed and is taking as many with him as he can.

We should pray for them and their souls, Christ is the only one who can heal the hatred that consumes man daily.

[Mary-Lou]

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Praise God you are in Prison Ministry! That is very hard to do and I admire you for it.
Unfortunately Islam is also very active in our nation's prisons. Jose Pedilla, Richard Reid, and many other terrorists were converted to Islam during their incarcerations. Even Mike Tyson embraced Islam in jail. The first thing he did when he got out was bite off Evander Hollifield's ear. Other converts to Islam have demonstrated their faith by throwing grenades into the tents of their comrades in arms, and selling secrets to Al Qaeda. This is not something they have been indoctrinated in from birth along with reading and writing. This is something they have become recently in the name of providing religious freedom to prisoners. When you go into the prisons, your goal is to lead souls to Christ and give the prisoners salvation and comfort. Islam seeks converts in the prisons to provide themselves with new soldiers in the Jihad. Soldiers who do not look arabic and who can infiltrate our society to destroy it. It will be very difficult to stem this tide of terror by singling out Islam in prison ministry without affecting other religions as well (including ours!). What can be done? Do you have any ideas?
God Bless Pres Bush
God Bless Our Troops
God Bless America!
Luv
ML

[pRIMrose]

Charie ~ you absolutely crack me up. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rotflo.gif A day without Charie is a day without http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sun1.gif As for the whippersnapper ~ I was being gentle with him http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif ~ I only gave him a small http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nahna.gif If I had been really serious, I'd have used http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/grimace.gif

Pa.D. ~ I admire you immensely for your philosophy. I wish we could all be as forgiving and understanding. But when I think that our enemy prays five times a day, it sort of makes me wonder. One of us is wrong and I believe it's the religion that says "kill the infidels." http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif It's really difficult to work up any compassion and understanding for people who are adamant about your destruction. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tqrolleyes.gif I truly believe that Bush was meant to be president just so he could shine his light on the rest of the world. He surely gets his strength and fortitude from a higher power. It's a shame that they don't recognize it ~ especially right here at home. He has a undertaken a huge task and he'll need all our prayers.

We should also throw in a few prayers for the Italians that have been captured and have only five days to live unless Italy withdraws their troops. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif

Dave ~ love the comparison chart. Do you think we should send a copy of it to the Kerry website. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

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[Pa.Dutchman]

Yes sometimes Muslims would show up at our Bible Studies in the Prison. I was not prepared to give up the valuable time God had given us to try to convince some one who was there as Christ stated it so nicely in John 10:10 " *The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy".

I knew Muslims followed the Old Test. to some degree. I would say to them, "I believe you believe in the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob." They always said "YES". Then I said to them, "then pray to God and ask HIM to reveal the truth of Christ to you." If you believe and follow the God of * Abraham Issac and Jacob you must believe HE will reveal the truth to you and so expect it and receive it."

That was always the last time I would see them.

Mary Lou, what you need to do is study your (HIS) Bible. Ask God to open your heart and your head to receive and understand His truth. The Word of God is what Christ used to rebuke sin, Satan and the Pharisees. Living life without your Bible is like building one of those old sailing boat schooner models together without the instructions. You're lost before you start as we are without HIM and His instructions.

Christ said Satan can appear as a angel of light. Not all the saints look like Mel Gibson or all sinners like Paul who said "I am the worse of sinners".

The Bible said our God doesn't look at ones outward appearance He looks at what is in a persons heart. Fortunately for me my wife read that verse or I might still be single sinner.

[lpara]

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>Just curious here, if you lived in PA, would you vote for Toomy or Specter in the primary? I sure want to lean toward Toomy but why in the world are Santorum and Bush campaigning for Specter. What good does it do to vote FOR a Republican who votes LIKE a democrat http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/doh.gif</span>

[Mary-Lou]

http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/usflag22.gif Dear Dutchman...What was it in my post that caused you to assume that I don't open up my Bible or open up my heart? I'm puzzled by your advice to me. I was talking about Muslim converts in the prison system. When you challenge the Muslims in your Bible study, that's a good thing, but if they don't return, to what do you attribute that? I don't hate people who have embraced the Muslim religion, but there is a radical element that is going after the same folks you are ministering to. I know you work in a very tough environment, so I will try not to be hurt by your remarks questioning my salvation or commitment to Our Lord and Savior. May God continue to bless you ministry.
Luv
ML

[Terri]

Dutchman, was that one of your essays? You can get more indepth replies to them out in the forum. That one looks like it will provoke some good indepth discussion.

The Precinct is a daily thread for lighter chit chat. Once in awhile you'll see one of us get a little carried away and remind ourselves where our rants should go. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Charie, keep after GR about his wife's finger. I love seeing him say he hit it with a hammer! He should never live that down. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

Dave, I'm glad to see you're posting government owned graphics now. I love public domain. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Laurie, you swiped my PA question for tomorrow. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif S'ok. I'll ask it anyway and give you credit for it.

[Pa.Dutchman]

Dear Mary Lou,

I am sorry I did come off sounding too preachy. I have my character defects and He is still working on me and my ruff edges.Mary Lou I use to tell the inmates how God can form us as with soft clay into His image. That is one way of sculpturing one into HIS own image. But, there is another way of sculpturing one into a His image. It is with a hammer and chisel and taking a wack off here and there. I assured them that is how HE is forming both me and some of them. It may hurt at times, but then you don't forget the lessons.

If the Muslims didn't return I am guessing they either had not prayed or would not accept the answer God had given them.

I dont hate them either Mary Lou. John states "that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son that who ever believes in him shall not perish." He did not send his son to condemn the world but to save the world through his son."
God sent his Son to save the whole world, no matter your color, language, etc.

I am one who would never have gotten to heaven any other way except through His Son.

Again I am sorry for my offensive manner. I did come off strongly. In prison sometimes it was all they seem to understand. It is how He has deat with me too, strongly.

Please forgive this old sinner and thank you for reminding me of minding myself,

God bless and keep you

[Floridaguy]

Popped in again for a sec http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pop.gif . Pa. Dutchman, glad you are strong enough of faith to forgive even the worst offense to you and your family. Like RIM said, I am not sure I could ever forgive someone who seriously harmed my family, much less be put in a mood to do so from working in Prison Ministry. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Quote[/b] ]I'm so glad you liked your good-night http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kiss.gif . *But you didn't seem to like the sedative I applied. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *Charie, what is going on here? First a kiss, then a sedative. I am scared to ask what happens once you get your victims to fall asleep. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laff.gif

Ok, need to go back to the threads. I am falling behind again. *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

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[Mary-Lou]

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Thanks for your understanding! I always try to get more info before getting offended. I guess that even getting rubbed the wrong way will produce a polish!
I also understand that when you deal with tough guys day in and day out it it can make you a little tough too.
Different things work for different people when sharing the Gospel. As Paul so well put it (paraphrase) To the Greeks I became as a Greek, to those under the Law, I became as one under the Law, so that by being all things to all men I might convert some. (I don't have my Bible with me right now, so this is just from memory) Anyway, it takes a tough man to do what you do! Keep up the good work
God Bless America
Luv
ML

[Charie]

Quote[/b] ]Charie, I didn’t hit my finger. I hit my wife’s finger

Please do me a favor, GR. Tell your wife to stay in the house while the green Dodge is being hammered into submission. SO.........if there are any fingers to be http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smash.gif ed, they'll be yours.

http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif I think it was Stormy who was wondering why I was http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smash.gif ing after http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/kiss.gif ing. It was just so none of you would become addicted to sedatives. I can't think of a person I know who would become addicted to a http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smash.gif in the head. Wellllll............ ..........maybe one.

Mary-Lou, that was a good article in WorldNet. I had read part of those listed items some time ago, maybe in WorldNet then. Some seem to be putting David Kay in the same category as Hans Blix. I don't. I thought he was an honest man who told things exactly as he saw them. Apparently these containers of fertilizer didn't reach the definition of "chemical weapons stockpile" and it always seemed to me he was trying to say more, but that's all the news media were interested in. BTW, did he write a book or has anyone heard if he is? I'd be interested to read it if he has or is going to.

Hi Pa. Good to see you here. Prison ministry is rough. There was a questionnaire for those of us in a bible class a few years ago and one of the questions was: Which of these categories would you choose if you were to do mission work? One of the categories was "prison ministry". I checked off two of the boxes out of about 5. "Prison ministry" wasn't one of them, but one of the sweet little ladies had checked only that box. She thought it was one of the areas that most needed ministry and thought she'd like to do that. A friend of mine used to be head prison nurse and she's told me enough stories that I don't ever want to go to a prison. God bless you for your dedication.

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[soccermamamia]

Quote[/b] ]How does one fight this kind of thinking

You answered your own question when you later mentioned how we need to pray for even our enemies, as Jesus has taught us. *Not that I have succeeded in pulling that plank out my eye just yet.

your story reminded me of a conversation I overheard when my younger brother, at age 9 *(now age 40) and his friend were reading the Bible one day and I overheard his friend explaining to my brother that the Bible said the races had to be kept separate and some other racist type malarkey. *I went in to see what he was reading and explained that we didn't allow that kind of talk in our home that last I heard Jesus accepted and loved each and every one of us even his enemies, etc. . .

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[Pa.Dutchman]

Luke 6:27"

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you."

As for forgiving those who sin against us and praying for them it was not something I came up with on my own. We are commanded to do this. Nor is it something I could do on my own. It is through our LORD we find the ability to do this. * *

Matthew 6:9-15
His disciples asked Him "How should we pray?'' Then He taught them the Lords prayer.

Now at the end of the Lords prayer He clearly states unless we forgive those who have sinned again us He will not forgive us. *

Some of the inmates had grudges with other inmates etc. When I had them pray for these folks who they held responsible for wrongs and they did not want to, I went over this verse with them. I let them know that some of them had victims praying for them their persecutors, and they should pray for those who wronged them. *

"This, then, is how you should pray:
* " 'Our Father in heaven,
* hallowed be your name,
* *10your kingdom come,
* your will be done
* * * on earth as it is in heaven.
* *11Give us today our daily bread.
* *12Forgive us our debts,
* * * as we also have forgiven our debtors.
* *13And lead us not into temptation,
* but deliver us from the evil one.[1] '

As we see here it does not ask or make a suggestion that we forgive those who singed against us HE commands us. But, He knows it is not an easy thing to do but it is a right thing. We can and should pray to Him for help in doing this. Christ said to His Father, "Father forgive them they know not what they do" as Christ forgives us who have sinned against Him and His Father we too must pray for those who have sinned against us.
* *

14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

And may you forgive me whom I have offended,

[lpara]

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>Thanks for the special BP reducing donut, Dave~~it did the trick http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I forgot to mention one of the most important things I saw this weekend~~They've put the BIG LOTS sign up on the building now http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif Hope it opens soon http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinangelA.gif

Today I upped my workout speed to 16 minute miles (soon to reach my goal of 15 minute miles http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yes.gif I'm so excited) and I'm tellin' ya I am soooooooooooooo pooooooooooooped out~~I'm going to go to bed early (for me!) http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/red_eyes.gif Hope someone else can stay up and make the coffee~~I think http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cowboy7.gif 's coffee ate a hole through the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/peepwallA.gif but it sure tasted good! http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/melt.gif TTFN</span>

[lpara]

<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>I forgot one more thing, did ya'll see those http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/broomstick.gif women on the news tonight screaming bloody murder at the NARAL march? *Cybill or should we call her Sybill with the 100 personalities (well, no actually she doesn't have any personality) she was spewing out deep hatred for . . . me, a good person http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif and other good people. *Deep hatred in these people. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif Scarey looking http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/witch.gif es~~Whoopi http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yikes.gif and all in the name of "women's health." *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/noway.gif that's a whole bunch of dog doo-doo. *They just hate good because it makes them look so BAD. *They have to have control of everything. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif people out there.</span>

[stan25]

Quote[/b] (lpara @ April 26, 2004 -- 9:45 pm)]<span style='font-family:comic sans ms'>I forgot one more thing, did ya'll see those http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/broomstick.gif women on the news tonight screaming bloody murder at the NARAL march? *Cybill or should we call her Sybill with the 100 personalities (well, no actually she doesn't have any personality) she was spewing out deep hatred for . . . me, a good person http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif and other good people. *Deep hatred in these people. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif Scarey looking http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/witch.gif es~~Whoopi http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yikes.gif and all in the name of "women's health." *http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/noway.gif that's a whole bunch of dog doo-doo. *They just hate good because it makes them look so BAD. *They have to have control of everything. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif people out there.</span>
Yeah I saw ‘em on Hannity & Colomes. That is what you get when you sit around doing nothing, but smoke the green weed and take a few pills all of the time. To think that we have to watch those :witch:s in the movies and on tv. Kind of makes me want to http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/barf.gif

Well about this time tomorrow night we should know if the magic bullet guy (Arlen Specter) is going to return to the Senate or if he will be cooling his heels back in good ole Pittsburg. http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif Sure hope that he does. Kind of reminds me of Gary Condidit.


Surfing through the channels. Caught Jay Leno interviewing Chris Matthews. Matthews said by the summer that the American people will be tired of Bush and the war in Iraq and will want to replace him with Lurch. I have a feeling Lurch will have totally imploded by that and the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jacka.gif will be looking at the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wmoon.gif to carry the standard for the http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jacka.gif Me thinks that Chrissy boy has been smoking a littke bit too much of the green weed.

It is about time for me to hit the hay. I need my http://www.gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleepy.gif so I don’t wake up all grouchy in the morning.

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