Thursday, June 13, 2002 [Archive]

Terri

06-13-2002, 01:07 AM

http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bird9.gif *Good Morning All! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bird9.gif 

Join us here for a http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cup.gif and some good conversation. We talk about politics, news, and the events of our day. Everyone is welcome so come right in. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/srib001.gif *There was a crash of an MC-130 plane in Afghanistan yesterday. Three were killed but 7 survived. Apparently it wasn't fired on.

Next week the President is going to announce a new thrust to get Americans on their feet and moving. Someone needs to get after me but I thought the President had more on his plate than this. * :f_footprints: *:f_footprints: *:f_footprints: *

Posted in our Forum: <ul> Poll: US-Mexico border opinions differ (http://gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=29&topic=54)

It Is a War, After All (http://gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=8&topic=147)

Who Is Riding the Fence Rail... Congress or the Veterans? (http://gopusa.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=30&topic=24)[/list]Today's Leftersons (http://www.gopusa.com/cartoons/hayes/hayes_0613.shtml)

Words of Wisdom: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. " ~~ James Madison ~~ *

Link of the Day:
Presidential Prayer Team (http://www.presidentialpray erteam.org/)

Please remember to pray for our President and for our servicemen and women who are in harm's way.
God Bless our great country. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif *May Freedom ever ring![/color]

lpara

06-13-2002, 05:20 AM

[color=burgundy]Good Morning Terri, pRIMrose and all http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif

(I say good--but it would be "gooder" if I could sleep a little longer!) *Allergies are acting up big-time . . . but it looks like I'm up with the best of 'em--(pRIM):wink:

Also, going to MIL's with el hubbo today. *They live about 1 hour away. El hubbo has to go to the dentist to get a crown glued back in. *Have to leave around 7http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0 a.m. (2 hours from now)

Well, I hope you all have a great day! *I am going to go o.d. on Claritin! (hope the drug sniffing dog is not around anywhere):shocked:

Did you see Castro led a "million man" march in Cuba AGAINST http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sflag171.gif *I wonder if he "counts" like Jesse Jackson. *

Prayers to those who lost loved ones in Afghanistan yesterday. *It is always so heart breaking.

http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif *Cya when I cYa! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif

pRIMrose

06-13-2002, 07:15 AM

Good Morning http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sunflower.gif Terri, lpara and http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif

lpara ~ ya beat me in this morning. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/red_eyes.gif Two eight hour work days and I got up and went back to bed. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif Hope your allergy gets better. *Claritin should do the trick. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/twothumbsup.gif

Terri ~ what's this "new thrust" thing? *Guess I missed out on a bunch yesterday ~ working.:tearhair: * Today will be better - only five hours.

Anyway I'm http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boots.gif running late, so *I'll catch up this afternoon. *Have a great day all.

(Edited by pRIMrose at 6:16 am on June 13, 2002)

angelus

06-13-2002, 07:23 AM

Morning everyone. *I'm sick (or extremely allergic to something) and I'm incapable of sleep right now, so I'm here just a-postin' away.

I watched Hannity and Colmes last night. *For what is quite possibly the first time ever, I found myself agreeing with Alan Colmes. *They had a guest on who has filed a lawsuit against Bush, claiming he knew ALL THE EXACT DETAILS of the Sept. 11 terror attacks. *Colmes said that while he didn't like much of anything on Bush's policies, he found it ridiculous that ANY American President would let 3,000 Americans die.
Hannity was a bit more hard-line, saying this guy oughta be ashamed of himself, he had no evidence, and he oughta quit distracting the President with this idiocy.

Well, I guess I'll go try to do something else on this computer. *Maybe get some more of my song written. *And in case you haven't noticed, there is a new rant on abortion. *Just thought I'd advertise it a little bit. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Saber

06-13-2002, 08:14 AM

IT'S THURSDAY AND WE'RE ON THE DOWNHILL! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif *GOOD MORNING!

[color=red] *WELCOME NEW MEMBERS! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif *Did I read a new member's name is NOMNESTY!? *Oh, I love it....just love it! *GREAT NAME!

Ipara, we take Claritin here too. *It's like a miracle drug for us....especially my one son with asthma. *Hope you can get those allergies tamed down so you can get some rest!

Terri...I don't know about this "thrust" thingy yet this morning either! *Is this some exercise advice....coming from the President? *I'd agree, I think he's got a little more on his plate than having to worry about this!

Angelus, I'm sorry to hear you are sick! *Maybe Claritin will work for you too! *Got any of that drug handy? *LOL http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *Hope you are feeling better soon. *I missed Hannity & The Idiot last night and good thing too 'cuz I'd really think I had lost all my marbles if I ever agreed with "the eyebrow"......maybe that's what made you sick!

RIM....you're skatin' today with only 5 hours! *YIPPEE! *I'm getting too old for full 8 hour days myself. *They are beyond exhausting. *Look at it this way.....you're one day closer to VACATION! *Now THAT'S a positive outlook! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif

BYE for now http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif *:f_footprints:

(Edited by Saber at 6:15 am on June 13, 2002)

KT4CCC

06-13-2002, 09:04 AM

Gooder morning

Its raining here again in chicago I wish I could send the Rain to Terri Land to help with Hells Kitcken aka Colorado.

The Liberal News Media reports that there is corputed elections in Chicago who would have though that was true not I.

Welcome New people to the fight against the Liberal Front.

TTFN

Terri

06-13-2002, 09:23 AM

DOND Welcome to the http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif Forum! Jump right in and talk to us. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hi all! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif

Here's a link to the exercise thing. It's really just one of those things that all President's seem to get involved in. Bush, First Lady To Promote Exercise (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-1803840,00.html) The site where I originally saw it is down but this will do.

Lots of allergies in here. I hope you all feel better soon and don't sneeze on the keyboard! :o

Colmes really has supported the President for the most part when it comes to ridiculous 9/11 charges. <sarcasm> Although of course we must encourage frivolous lawsuits whenever possible because it is "our right" and we wouldn't want to leave any of "our rights" laying around unused just because using one of them doesn't make any sense. </sarcasm> http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif

All rain is welcome! *It's very windy here this morning but there is some thought it might turn the fire back on itself in some areas.

Der Alte

06-13-2002, 09:42 AM

Good Morning All: Angelus, if you watch Colmes on a regular basis you will not think hes a supporter of the president - last night was an exception, big exception. The program is an excellant exchange of ideology with some excellant guests, Ann Coulter for one. How did you like the exchange with the counselwoman about the racist dog?. Hope all you sick people get better - I took Claritin once, when I had a sinus problem and it worked wonders.

Hope every one has contacted their states represenatives on the Judicary Committee to defeat HR 1452. See ya.

06-13-2002, 10:10 AM

Good Morning Everyone http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

* Now, I don't want any of you to sneeze on me, my wife and I get sick enough with three children, who are always picking up germs everywhere. So please sneeze away from the keyboard thank you. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/compute.gif

* *My final (maybe!) observation on racist dogs, pets, whatever. I have always noticed that dogs are extremely good at judging people, much better than people are. I do not believe dogs care much about race or anything else, but I know for a fact that some dogs that were teased by kids at some point in their life, merely do not like children, period; end of story. In general, dogs "sense" things about people, that we cannot fathom, much like most animals know when a storm is coming well before people do (and they don't have the Weather Channel either!). So since animals instincts tend to be more reliable and completely devoid of prejudice except for based on past experience, I for one tend to trust their reaction to people. They say elephants never forget, http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/elefant.gif the same applies to most animals.

DOND welcome to the Forum. Dig right in and post. (Another person's name to decipher...)

angelus, I read your rant on abortion yesterday. When you rant, you really rant young man! I liked it though... http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Yesterday, the wife and I got to try out our new blender that came in (the old one was smoking; literally). It is way cool. Had to test it with a coffe frappe, my specialty (coffee ice cream, a few ice cubes, and a wee bit of Kahlua and Creme de Cacao). Hit the spot. Also got a new http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cup.gif
Very cool, too, with water purifier built in. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

There is an extremely good article from GOPUSA today, IMO. Look for it in GOPUSA article thread. Talk to y'all later in the day. I think RIM should spend at least 2 of her 5 hours at work today typing in the cookie jar. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

ConservativeGal

06-13-2002, 10:51 AM

Good Morning All!

Well I have been trying to plan a vacation for some time now,and I think I finally have all my ducks in a row! My father lives in Colorado, and I havent seen him in almost two years, and he has only seen my son once, so I think I have all the arrangements done,and we will be going there this summer, August to be exact! I am very excited, I love Colorado, it is soooo beautiful! He lives about 10 miles from Mesa Verde National Park, and so far it has not been shut down due to the fires, so I am keeping my fingers crossed! LOL Terri, how close are you to the Cortez/Dolores area? ANYWAYS, I just has to share my good news! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I am off to get the news of the day! I hope you all have a great day! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

angelus

06-13-2002, 12:30 PM

I just want to extend a warm, http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif welcome to all of our new members! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yelclap.gif
If you like it half as much as me, you'll be here quite often. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I missed Hannity & The Idiot last night and good thing too 'cuz I'd really think I had lost all my marbles if I ever agreed with "the eyebrow"......maybe that's what made you sick!
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http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif *Maybe that is it! *LOL. *Actually, I was sick before that. *And I don't look at it as me agreeing with the eyebrow, the eyebrow agreed with me. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

My cold is a little better now. *I used Sudafed and I'm on Biaxxin. *I think it's at its worse now, so I'll just have to put up with a sore throat and a mild cough and runny nose for a bit.

Catch y'all later! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif

06-13-2002, 12:50 PM

Welcome Andy Watson It is good to see a new member from England. Feel free to post. Question, do you have a take on the Blair/Clinton friendship/anti-conservative partnership? Didn't know if it made the papers there....

ConservativeGal :1luvu: Hope you have an excellent trip and you don't see any smoke for miles when you are there. What do you plan on doing for your vacation in CO?

That's all for now. Be back later.

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

lpara

06-13-2002, 01:59 PM

[color=blue]Anybody listening to Walter Williams and Linda Chavez on Rush today--Very interesting!! *Too bad she didn't get the post Bush wanted her for. *730-1 Black over white/Hispanic to get in universities. *Reverse discrimination. *She went to U of Colorado.:biggrin:--Terri

I have been taking Claritin for years--Great drug and I'm not switching to the new Clarinex just so the drug company can make some more money. *Allergies and asthma for me too, Saber--never had 'em till I moved to NC! *I grew up right next to you in Milwaukee--and never had the first sniffle.

GOPguy--maybe we need to hire a few dogs for the Weather Channel--then we would at least know ahead of time what was coming for sure!

Angelus--Vitamin C and lots of Liquids! *You had a cold not too long ago didn't you?

Conservative Gal--We vacationed in Colorado 2 years ago--best vacation we ever had. *We stayed at Mt. Elbert Lodge on Mount Elbert in Twin Lakes, CO--would recommend it to anyone--it'd be a good place to take your family--GOPguy--lots of boy things to do! *They have a website, for anyone interested but I don't have time to link it here--got a lazy smiley?

Well, clothes to fold, floors to sweep, naps to take . . .:red_eyes: not necessarily in that order! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif *Adios And Beunas Dias! *Hasta Luega!

ConservativeGal

06-13-2002, 02:03 PM

LOl well FloridaFuy, I hope by August they have those dang things under control! :eek:

Well my hubby has never been any further west then Texas, LMAO, so I plan to take him to see some of the monuments, and hopefully Mesa Verde will be open, and I think we will go to the Four Corners! Stuff like that! And basically just visit with my dad! The trip will take 4 days, two travel,and two visiting! It is the South West part of the state..Dolore/cortez area! Anyways, I am very excited!

Ok I have to jet for now, I will stop back by later!

angelus

06-13-2002, 02:04 PM

lpara- what I had not too long ago was a cold just like this one. Actually, it's been a few months since I had it. But, I'll take 4 of these per year over the one horrendous flu I used to get (which knocked me out for about 2 weeks).

I'm downing every liquid in sight (non-alcoholic). I've got plenty of vitamins. And now I'm going to lay down again. I finished movement 3 of my song, and I'll post it on Laura's Midi Heaven either tomorrow or the next day (just to make sure I really am done and don't want to add or delete anything between now and then). I hate the fact that a midi player cannot play emotion. The anger doesn't come through at all. Oh well, it's a rough blueprint.

Bye for now.

ConservativeGal

06-13-2002, 02:05 PM

BTW here is a link to a web site for the only lodging in Dolores, it shows some of the attractions in that area!

http://www.dminn.com

06-13-2002, 02:31 PM

CG, I will be staying in the only lodging in Cimmaron, NM next month, so I could relate. I hear you wake up in the morning to the sound of buffalo (which by the way we are having for dinner one night while we are there!) Oh well, they say it tastes like chicken, but then everything does....

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

Terri

06-13-2002, 03:17 PM

Welcome Jo Wideman, Andy Watson, and 10thMACongress! We're happy to have you join us. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Floridaguy, you got a new cup with a built in water filter?? :o

Tisha, the area you are going to visit is very interesting but very different from my part of Colorado. It's probably close to a 300 mile drive from here. Are you driving there and saying one day there and one back? :o

Angelus, I hope you feel better soon.

Floridaguy, buffalo doesn't taste like chicken but it does taste very good. It's very lean. I tend to like it in burgers or barbeque better than a buffalo steak.

lpara, it's amazing that Linda Chavez went through CU and came out a conservative. Astonishing, in fact.

ConservativeGal

06-13-2002, 04:04 PM

LOL yes we will be driving there in one day! It will take about 15 to 17 hours! We will leave at 3am my time and get there at 6pm my time. There is me, my hubby, and a friend of mine going, who can drive, so we will switch off drivers...ANYWAYS! LOL

I have got to get off this comp for a while! BBL! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

gogman

06-13-2002, 04:39 PM

Greetings from Orange County in Southern California! I'm new here.

I'm a 33 year old computer geek who has recently realized I'll never have the American dream as long as I have to give over half my income to state, am discriminated against because of my race (I'm white), and have what freedoms are left slowly morphed into Socialism in the name of diversity.

This pisses me off a whole bunch! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mr_yuk.gif

I feel like my generation has completely been sold out.

I want to take the gloves off and get nasty with these idiots whore are destroying this country from the inside. I am all for fighting fire with fire. It's time to use some of the left's tactics against them. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/teeth2.gif

For example, how about a billboard with a picture of Tom Daschle on the left and Stalin on the right. The caption on top reads "What's the difference between these two men?" The caption on the bottom reads "Nothing, other than one is dead."

Yea, it's mean, it's nasty, but hey, it's the truth. Daschle is at BEST a socialist, at worst a totalitarian.

Anyhow, if I can help in some way to stop the madness, please contact me.

Terri

06-13-2002, 05:06 PM

gogman and raylecy! *Welcome to http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif!

gogman, you really are in a nest of liberalism aren't you? We often do become concerned when we're working hard and realize half the check is going to the government. Makes you start looking around to see who is responsible for that doesn't it?

I'm curious about your username and what meaning it might hold for you.

Tisha, I'm glad you'll have so many drivers. Going to Cortez you can take an easier route without the high mountain passes.

The judge in the Moussaoui trial has ruled that he can represent himself. Can you say zoo? *This creep should have been given a tribunal. *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/shake.gif

pRIMrose

06-13-2002, 05:26 PM

http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif:mad::mad:Nev er, never, never, never, never, never, ever, ever, ever, ever hit the reset button when you mean to hit the submit button! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif:mad::mad:

I vote to move the reset button to Connecticut or Vermont ~
if I want to get rid of my post I'll "highlight & cut". @#&#36%^&#36&*#@&#36% <rant off> *And I had such good stuff. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/teeth2.gif

Terri

06-13-2002, 06:15 PM

The good news is that the reset button will have been moved to a liberal forum in the new software version. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif

Maybe you'll reconstruct? http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/angel.gif

The administration issued some new environmental regulations today. The Democrats are in a tizzy. I'll see if I can find the story and post it.

gogman

06-13-2002, 06:20 PM

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Terri on 2http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6 pm on June 13, 2002
gogman and raylecy! *Welcome to http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif!

gogman, you really are in a nest of liberalism aren't you? We often do become concerned when we're working hard and realize half the check is going to the government. Makes you start looking around to see who is responsible for that doesn't it?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the welcome! Orange County is a conservative area, sadly the rest of the state isn't. Unfortunately, it costs a bundle to live here in OC. My little 700sq foot 1 bedroom apartment sets me back &#361,035 a month. Then tack on water, sewage, and trash. By the time I got to this point in my life, I thought for sure I'd be living in my own home. It's just not going to happen and it pisses me off. I feel even worse for my younger friends. There is going to be even less of a future for them when they finish school. All that effort to educate yourself to wind up just scraping by.

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm curious about your username and what meaning it might hold for you.[/QUOTE]
The name is part of my lastname. It was hyphenated about 8-10 years ago, but I droped the hypen because I was lazy. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif A lot of people think it refers to the gods Gog and Magog of some eastern religions, but it doesn't. Sometimes a name is just a name and a cigar is just ewwwwwwww!

(Edited by gogman at 5http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0 pm on June 13, 2002)

lpara

06-13-2002, 06:20 PM

[color=red]I lost one in the wee morning hours, pRIM--but not by hitting reset--Just my backward and forward buttons--where did it go? *It wasn't back and it wasn't forward!! *Was it transported to some outer limit, some other planet, maybe? **Somewhere in la-la land are some world-changing, heart-throbbing, infentesimally (sp?), life-reproducing (from a liberal to a conservie), magnanimous, words! *God rest their souls!

Saber

06-13-2002, 08:30 PM

GOOD GRIEF!! I just can't keep up!! *We get so many new members every time I go to work!

WELCOME TO ALL THE NEWBIES! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif

OH RIM! *BEEN THERE DONE THAT! *It makes me so darn http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif *Seems it happens to quite a few of us! *Maybe we could move that button away from the "submit" button??? http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ne_nau.gif *Come on...come on....PLEASE "reconstruct"... .we just can't miss out on all of your really good stuff! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/angel.gif

HEY Gogman...I like your posts! *I'll give you a HUGEAMEN[color=brown] and DITTOS!!! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif *What kind of "computer geek" are you? *I've got a son in Computer Science at Purdue and he's got some "lofty" goals. *Good thing he's extremely self-motivated!

Terri, I was reading a blurb on Drudge that the fires are moving in a different direction. *Hope that doesn't mean anything even MORE scary for you!

http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wavey.gif Ipara, Flg, Angelus, Der Alte, KT4CCC, ConservativeGal...er . .....Did I miss anybody? *I CAN'T KEEP UP!! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/star2.gif

Gotta get back to the hockey game.....just pray it's not the "last" game of the season because I'm not up tonight for watching those redwings kissing any "cup". http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/JEDIpinkietoo.gif

gogman

06-13-2002, 09:04 PM

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[/color]WELCOME TO ALL THE NEWBIES! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grouphug.gif

HEY Gogman...I like your posts! *I'll give you a HUGE [/color]AMEN[color=brown] and DITTOS!!! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif *What kind of "computer geek" are you? *I've got a son in Computer Science at Purdue and he's got some "lofty" goals. *Good thing he's extremely self-motivated![/QUOTE]

Greetings and mega-dittos Saber!

I am the worst kind of geek: The kind who loves it with every cell in his being! I breathe, eat, sleep, and dream about networks and machines. I got my first kit computer back in 1978 (I was just a wee lad) and have been loving it ever since I went to college for a bit, but I dropped out.

I pretty much floundered around until in my early 20's I decided I wanted to be a Rock Star. So I packed up and moved from Central California to Southern California. Got down here, made a living doing shows, even got offered a couple of (really bad) record deals. The band broke up, so it was either move home with mom, or find a job that paid a decent wage and live down here. The thought of being 26 and living at home with mom was only slightly less repellent than the thought of french kissing Monica Lewinsky...

So...

I had only worked professionally (mainly grunt work) in computers a few times, so I figured what the hell, I'd give it a shot. I was hoping to get a job that paid &#3610-15 an hour. Well, turns out that I had the skills and experience gleaned from years of being an anti-social freak who stayed up all night geeking out that people wanted. A couple of companies got into a bidding war over me. It was strange! So the freak and wannabe rock star who just wanted to make &#3610-15 an hour wound up getting a job paying &#3665k a year salary plus bonuses.

Needles to say, this is what I have been doing professionally for the last 7 years. My current job is being the IT Director for a manufacturing consulting firm.

I am still amazed people pay me to do what I consider a hobby. If a freak like myself can make it to this level, then anyone can.. This is one of the reasons I seriously love this country!

Der Alte

06-13-2002, 09:25 PM

Welcome Gogman. You could always move to NC and you could get the same place for 2-3 hundred a month. The problem is you would have to settle for that original &#3610-15 hour. I was about to give up on the Left Coast until you came along. You don't have much to worry about, that area is destined to become part of Mexico, see the Immigration Forum.

Terri

06-13-2002, 09:42 PM

I think we will exile the reset button to Democratic Underground. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *
gogman, thank you for explaining. I did wonder if it was a biblical reference.

lpara, your words went to DU too. They use the reset button on them. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Saber, I think RIM must have retreated to http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/peepwallA.gif for the night! :o *

About the fires. It is burning back on itself from the north. The south line is still in great danger. They think they may have 5% containment and there is some other good news. Many more firefighters are on the way and the weather is cooler today with a bit higher humidity. It's small improvements but it's something.<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am still amazed people pay me to do what I consider a hobby. If a freak like myself can make it to this level, then anyone can.. This is one of the reasons I seriously love this country! [/QUOTE]gogman, one of the best things about a board like this is meeting people and hearing their stories. *Do you still play in your spare moments?

Der Alte, ooohh! That was cold but you are right!

gogman, have you checked the Immigration Topic? *

Aberfoyle

06-13-2002, 10:06 PM

Hi Everyone...

Wow! This has been a busy day for me. Running hither and yon!

I've enjoyed reading all of your messages and sorry that you lost a big post, RIM. That's happened to me too.

I was in another city today at Home Depot and a friend and I bought all the plywood and shingles to put a new "shell" on the outside of my garden shed and we're going to do that on Saturday. So, lots of work ahead of me for the weekend.

I see that the little missing girl in Salt Lake City is still missing and now her family are all being investigated.

Terri

06-13-2002, 10:30 PM

mitchell, Dan Ledbetter, and dledhead!
Welcome to the http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif Forum! We're glad to have each one of you here?

Did you all come on the same bus? http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif It's great that you all arrived together! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hi Aberfoyle! Is your arm well enough to build a shed? I guess it must be. That's great! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

06-13-2002, 10:38 PM

Good Evening All. Wow, lpara is right, you leave for a few hours, and bam! Tons of posts and people joining. Welcome to gogman, Jo Wideman, 10thMACongress, Dan Ledbetter, mitchell, dledhead, and raylecy. Whew! Hope I didn't miss anyone... :o

gogman, it is always good to have another computer geek aboard, and I have enjoyed your first few posts. Keep up the good work, and you can become a regular in here!

Terri, I was joking about the taste like chicken thing. I have had buffalo lots of times, and like it a lot. It tastes like beef, but leaner and sweeter, and is much healthier, too. Prediction? Based on how easy they are to raise (they have some buffalo ranches even in Florida) I am betting they become a more popular meat choice in the future, becoming more widely available. Now, about my new coffeepot not cup! Yes, it has a built in water filter. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Aberfoyle, so did you wind up hither or yon, or somewhere between the two? http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I have not had the experience of hitting the reset button on here, but almost pulled CG's hair because her site claimed that you could hit the back button to fix typos, and WHAM! Say goodbye to your long, 15-minutes-of-typing, post. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

RIM, um, get some rest, take a drink, breathe deeply, it will get better, I promise! For you http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/f_rose.gif, just relax!

Dan Ledbetter, do you have any kinfolk in Florida? I know some Ledbetters in Charlotte County, FL, by way of deep south Georgia. Any relation?

We got nice rain today again in Arcadia, but not Sarasota. They are doing ecological burning in Florida every day now; guess they figured they better after Colorado. I hate to see anything burning, but know it will avoid the situation out West in the long run.

Well, gotta catch up on the other threads before I go http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/red_eyes.gif We are almost at that 200 number now! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

(Edited by GOPSRQFloridaguy at 10:40 pm on June 13, 2002)

gogman

06-13-2002, 10:55 PM

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">gogman, one of the best things about a board like this is meeting people and hearing their stories. *Do you still play in your spare moments?[/QUOTE]

Nah, I don't play anymore. I got rid of most of my studio. On my free time I tend to do a lot of reading, crawling around government websites (bless the Freedom of Information Act!), and of course, working on my website. I have a fat internet connection at home and am basicly my own ISP. When I am in the mood for music, I'll DJ live for my friends.

Immigration... Well, that's one of those topics that I am split on. I am fully in support of legal immigration. Immigrants have been a good thing for this country. However, it SERIOUSLY pisses me off that we have people making BONE HEADED proposals to give illegal immigrants drivers license, medical benefits, and such. THESE PEOPLE BROKE THE LAW! Deport them! Was our Republic not founded on a set of laws?

The other thing I have an issue about immigration with is everything being in English and Spanish. English is the language of this society, so learn it!

One of my dreams has been to go live in Japan for awhile (I really love fresh sushi http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ). A friend of mine recently moved to Japan. He's a fellow geek. Guess what he did? He spent almost 4 years learning basic Japanese. Then what did he do? He emigrated LEGALLY. If I were to ever move to another country, you can bet I'd learn the language as well as the culture. Then I'd enter it legally, not sneaking in the dead of night across the border.

I think it's only fair to ask the same of people coming here.

06-13-2002, 10:59 PM

gogman, I agree about sushi. Good sushi is the best food on the planet, IMO. However, having eaten a fair amount of it in Japan about 8 years ago (was there for a week), I believe that sushi is much better here. I found the Japanese, at least then, to be very stuck-up to Americans, barely acknowledging our presence there. At the time they were so vastly economically superior, and everything in Japan was so outrageously expensive, that having also traveled in the same trip to Thailand, and Indonesia, I told people that if they never went to Japan, they weren't missing much...

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

P.S. - welcome dumbledore

(Edited by GOPSRQFloridaguy at 11http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif2 pm on June 13, 2002)

lpara

06-13-2002, 11:10 PM

Welcome to the New http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/gopusa.gif people and geeks http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

You speak the mind of many--gogman--on immigration--exceptional dittos! *

I used to think geek was a derrogatory word--geeks are good.:twothumbsup:

It'll probably be time for cake this weekend--I'll make the cake--but don't let any MEN bring the punch--I think they'd all SPIKE it!http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mdr11.gif (not counting Angelus)

Terri

06-13-2002, 11:11 PM

Dumbledore! We're very glad to have you! I hope you will enjoy our forum. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Nah, Floridaguy! It tastes just like chicken. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

gogman, you sound just about like the rest of here on the subject of immigration. We believe in it, after all that's how everyone of us got here, but we know our country can't continue to support all the illegals. We have no problem with the people but we want all people who come here to do so legally and to take on the reponsibilities of citizenship.

Sushi! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dead.gif *Please pass the buffalo! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/28.gif

lpara, we posted together. Geeks are really great when your computer gets ornery! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/twothumbsup.gif

gogman

06-13-2002, 11:18 PM

Hey Floridaguy,

It think it's changed. I also think it matters on who you know there and are with. I was blown away when my friend moved there. I am a normal looking guy, however, my friend has aqua hair and about 90 rings in his face. heheheheh I'd say just based on him moving and getting a job, things have changed.

If you are ever in OC, my fave sushi place is in Costa Mesa. Sushi Wave. They have everything there from newbie sushi to the bizzare stuff we closet Japanese like. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Here's the visualization of the billboard idea. It's a quick job so it's not perfect. http://gogman.net/misc_docs/Tom_Stalin.jpg I'd love to see these spring up around the country! Since it's political speech, slander laws do not apply. It's worked for the libs.... Turn about is fair play, I say!

(Edited by gogman at 8:19 pm on June 13, 2002)

06-13-2002, 11:23 PM

gogman, I thought the sushi in California was some of the best I have tasted in the country. Florida has nothing to compare to it. Maybe we will have to start a sushi thread, but mainly I think we need to get Terri to try it. I forgot to mention to her that I like my buffalo anywhere from rare, to raw (ala carpaccio, or steak tartare). Ah, fine food is lost on the uninitiated...:mdr11 :

The Floridaguy http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/flag19.gif

Kathy Boyd

06-13-2002, 11:38 PM

Hi, All! *It's hot as you know where down here in Central Texas! It hit 100 degrees today out here in the edge of the Hill Country. We're praying for rain. (well, I was going to place a smilie rolling its eyes heavenward but my computer won't co-operate!) http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Did any of you see the article by Rush Limbaugh about "What is a Military Family Worth?" *Sorry, I don't know what newspaper it appeared in and don't have a link as it was forwarded to me without pertinent info. *It is a very thought-provoking article comparing what is being demanded by some of the 9-11 victims' families to the amounts of compensation received by families of our military who are killed.
Talk about allergies -- you guys should live in the midst of these #%@# cedar trees. I eat Benadryl during Cedar Fever season!!
Gotta' run... *Goodnight!
Ole' Texas Gal

gogman

06-13-2002, 11:41 PM

Yea, we are lucky here. We do have some good fish. See's there's one good thing about immigration. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif A sushi thread would be good. http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Sushi is like Jello to me, there's always room for more!

I have never had buffalo... I've wanted to try it. I heard it's got a slight hint of venison flavor. Tell Terri not to be a chicken and live a little! There's a whole world of good eats out there!

All this talk of meat... Gonna have to get a burger on the way home from work!

Terri

06-13-2002, 11:55 PM

Floridaguy and gogman! *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mr_yuk.gif *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mr_yuk.gif *http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mr_yuk.gif

Hi Kathy! We drove through the edge of the Texas hill country earlier this year. We were going from Amarillo to San Antonio so I think we were on the edge of it. We spent about 3 weeks total in Texas and thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't think I'd want to be down there in the heat right now though.

I am going to look for the Limbaugh articles. It sounds like something we would enjoy here. Thanks! http://gopusa.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/twothumbsup.gif