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Patton: Will John Roberts Betray Us Again?

By Doug Patton

In the tortured justification for his vote to sustain Obamacare last summer, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts pointed to Congress's authority to levy taxes — an argument not even put forward by its advocates. (They, in fact, had argued that it was not a tax.) As a direct result of Roberts's folly, the stark reality of Barack Obama's "fundamental transformation of America" creeps closer each day.

Will Roberts do it again? As I write this, the High Court is hearing oral arguments for and against California's Proposition 8, which defined marriage as a union of a man and a woman, and the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which gives states the right to refuse recognition of same-sex "marriages" performed in other states. DOMA was passed by a Republican Congress and signed into law by then President Bill Clinton in 1996.

Based on what I'm hearing from the justices — John Roberts and Anthony Kennedy in particular — I am not optimistic for the future of marriage in our nation.

Arguably, America's slide into the morass of progressivism began a century ago when Teddy Roosevelt, dissatisfied with his hand-picked successor, William Howard Taft, decided to make a comeback in 1912 as an independent candidate for president. In so doing, TR helped to usher in the dark days of Woodrow Wilson and to pave the way for cousin Franklin D. and his "New Deal."

Since then, Democrats have built on that radical foundation, with Obama taking it to its European-style extremes. Witness how quickly the culture has shifted on this issue of same-sex marriage. If recent polls are to be believed, the change of opinion on this issue has been startling. Suddenly, it's cool to equate homosexual unions with monogamous heterosexual marriage. It's the new civil right.

This is especially true for people under 30, many of whom seem willing to support the latest fad, no matter how damaging it may be to society. Sadly, I doubt that a Defense of Marriage Amendment like that passed in 2000 by voters in Nebraska could pass today. And there is no question in my mind that Californians who believe in traditional marriage would be hard pressed to prevail now, as they did in 2008.

Of course, the national media have kept up a steady drumbeat for this change, and the Republican Party leadership has been nearly silent on the issue, no doubt on the advice of their legions of overpaid consultants. Meanwhile, on the Democrat side, President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, former President Bill Clinton and his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as others who previously claimed to believe that marriage is the union of a man and woman, recently have stuck their progressive fingers into the shifting cultural winds and concluded that, well, maybe we don't really believe what we claimed we believed after all.

Ohio Senator Rob Portman is the latest Republican to call for "marriage equality." Portman has reportedly arrived at this conclusion because he has a son acting out homosexual behavior with other men, and that this somehow justifies jettisoning 5,000 years of religious and societal tradition.

This brings us back to Chief Justice Roberts. A George W. Bush appointee, Roberts has a lesbian cousin who has been sitting in the courtroom with her "partner" waiting for Cousin John to "do the right thing."

Interestingly, those who scoffed at conservative Justice Antonin Scalia's dissent in the 2003 Lawrence vs. Texas decision, which struck down that state's anti-sodomy laws, would have heard his questions echoed by liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor in the course of oral arguments on the Prop 8 case. Scalia argued 10 years ago that the Lawrence ruling opened the door to legalized incest and polygamy. During her questioning of anti-Prop 8 attorney Ted Olson, Sotomayor asked: if gay marriage is okay, why not polygamy and incest? Olson dismissed Sotomayor's question by stating that those activities involved "exploitation and abuse."

I am not a lawyer, but if I had to hazard a guess, I would predict that the best those of us who believe in traditional marriage can hope for out of this court is that they will uphold Prop 8 and strike down DOMA, thereby leaving the nation with a hodgepodge of state laws that create an even more balkanized nation than we have already.

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© 2013 by Doug Patton - Doug Patton describes himself as a recovering political speechwriter who agrees with himself more often than not. His weekly columns are distributed by Cagle Cartoons newspaper syndicate. For more info contact cari@cagle.com or call 800 696 7561. Readers are encouraged to email Doug at dpatton@cagle.com and/or to follow him on Twitter at @Doug_Patton.

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  1. theoldsargeComment by theoldsarge
    March 28, 2013 @ 8:34 am

    Of course he will. He isn’t elected. He knows what side of the bread his butter is on.

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    • my04301933Comment by my04301933
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:14 am

      Here, about this arena of “opinionists” who can write and post their thoughts and anger, I can safely say:

      “Most, and more probably all, will note that America is just about complete in its transformation”.

      We no longer trust our Congress…

      We no longer trust our Senate…

      We no longer trust our President…

      We no longer trust our Supreme Court…

      We no longer trust our State Governors…

      We no longer trust our Churches…

      The only category of trust may be in our Military, who alone retain the responsibility to “take over” from those who mean harm to our Constitution, our Republic…this includes removing Obama and Biden, and czars, etc…and to remain in control until they have cleaned house appropriately..

      I believe this too could be at risk…I have heard little from the Military, perhaps this is a good sign, perhaps not.

      After that, all that will be left is us AMERICANS who believe, and will do what ever it takes to save our nation…and OBAMA KNOWS IT…thus his attack on the 2nd AMENDMENT!

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:57 am

      my04301933 – just imagine how you would have felt back in 1934 or so when FDR was running the show. We survived him and we’ll survive Obama, perhaps with a little limp for awhile. By the way “Congress” covers both the House and the Senate.
      I think our checks and balances system is struggling right now because of our system of electing the Congress. It costs a fortune to run a successful campaign and the special interests and lobbyists who focus that money don’t do it for nothing. These candidates are already indentured servants before they cross the Potomac River and it goes downhill from there. Until we change that to only public money, nothing will change.

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    • 1389ADComment by 1389AD
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

      @freebird,

      No, we are at the beginning stages of a much greater depression than that of the 1930s. So much damage has taken place already that it will take decades to recover, if ever. Unless you’re still a minor, don’t expect to outlive it.

      None of this is any accident. Turning the US into a Third World nation on the pattern of Kenya or Cuba or Zimbabwe isn’t a bug – it’s a feature.

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    • freebirdComment by freebird
      March 28, 2013 @ 4:01 pm

      1389AD -

      The great depression, accompanied and encouraged by the dust bowl put is in a world of hurt. My dad and uncles went on the road, rode the rails looking for work, any kind of work. I was only born in ’43 so all I recall are the stories they told. What got us out of it was WWII, not FDR by a long shot. When the smoke cleared we were the only developed country not on our knees in rubble. We were the big dogs. I hope and pray you’re wrong about this being a beginning. If it is, it will lead to war. Scare resources always do. I doubt the world as we know it would survive WWIII. Perhaps some cockroaches and few liberals…

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    • johnsnareComment by johnsnare
      March 31, 2013 @ 11:43 am

      No question. We have been transformed.

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  2. arwenusaComment by arwenusa
    March 28, 2013 @ 8:50 am

    Turn the question around: Is there some reason John Roberts WON’T betray us again? (We’ve already seen that he has no conscience, so I don’t know what the incentive to avoid betraying us would be this time.)

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  3. iu3kidsComment by iu3kids
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:37 am

    I couldn’t care less if gays marry one another or not. Keep the excessive show of affection behind closed doors same with straight couples, too.

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    • 1389ADComment by 1389AD
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:39 pm
    • billieComment by billie
      April 7, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

      YOU HAVE TO BE GOOFY…YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT WILL BE GOING ON..
      DO YOU REALLY WANT POLYGAMY – CHILDREN & ADULTS BEING MARRIED…SEVERAL ADULTS OR DOGS MARRIED TOGETHER? THAT’S WHAT IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED, NOT JUST A MAN/MAN OR WOMAN/WOMAN …

      YOU REALLY NEED TO READ MORE, STUPID! YOUR INSURANCE WILL GO EVEN HIGHER WHEN THIS GOES LEGAL. NUTTY PERSON!

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  4. 7papa7Comment by 7papa7
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:38 am

    Will Roberts aka Obama jr betray us again, probably. He had done nothing to show me that he won’t.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:55 am

      Like Obama and his Obamanation called Obamacare, Roberts will stick finger in air to see which way the political wind blows, hoping like Obama to seal his place in history, but will only seal the fate of the institution of marriage for all time. Soon incest and polygamy will follow which will just allow the miscreant Liberals to have 20 wifes and 100 children on the government dependency roles where the land of accountability and reason is now conquered into the land of irresponsibility and emotion. The Fall of America will mirror the fall of Rome, with Christians and Christianity again becoming the martyrs of Caligula Obama and his political miscreant sexual deviants.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:39 pm

      It will be interesting to see how he re-wrights this case to make it a tax.

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  5. airboss1Comment by airboss1
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:49 am

    Doug, I will say, if nothing else, you’re consistent. First it was your tirade about the Boy Scouts, now it’s Prop. 8 and DOMA. Look, I’ve been trying to make a point for a long time with my fellow Republicans and Conservatives wherever and whenever I can. That point is that we have to stop looking like crazies or we’ll never get one of our own elected. In a recent poll over 56% of Americans polled agree that gay marriage should be legalized. Clearly, with that kind of number, that has to include a lot of Republicans and Conservatives. As you state, this number is growing very rapidly. This is because the liberal media has championed this AND it’s because many more people have “come out” and so many more people now know a friend or family member who is gay. People are realizing that homosexuality is NOT a choice, Doug, and I’m really disappointed in you Rachel Maddow like comment about Bob Portman’s son “acting out homosexual behavior with other men.” What a smarmy comment. For God’s sake, Doug, you, as a Conservative, should be leading the charge to take this issue off the table once and for all so we can start talking about the importing things like how to defeat the progressives and get our country back on track. Let people live their lives in freedom. Throughout history we’ve always had a certain percentage of the population that’s been homosexual and we always will have and that’s because, again Doug, it’s not a choice. Let’s focus on free markets, smaller government, lower taxes and a strong military and we’ll start winning elections. You keep writing articles like this and tell the moderates and Independents that Republicans are nuts. We cannot win an election without moderates and Independents. And don’t hit me with “what about our principles?” Well, maybe we have to take a good hard look at those principles because some of them may be based on falsehoods. By the way, with over 50% of marriages ending in divorce and broken families and 50% of first births now being to unwed mothers, we can only stand to improve our society by allowing loving, same-sex couples to wed and raise families. Doug, they’re not going to “teach they’re children to be gay.” They’re going to teach them the value of family and loving relationships. What could be bad about that? Anyway, we have to stop with these social issues and concentrate on changing this country’s direction. We need to start moving back to freedom.

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    • letmethinkComment by letmethink
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:18 am

      ’56% of Americans polled’ don’t know sh-t from shinola.
      Didnt the last election prove that??
      What was the phrase? ‘uneducated voters’

      Most Americans have no idea about anything.
      They have no idea what the results of gay marriage will do to the economy, insurance, property ownership, employment rights and much more.
      The pandering politicans and lame stream press don’t know and won’t tell you even if they did.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:28 am

      They are weighting the polls against pro-traditional marriage supporters by several percentage points. Polls are almost completely useless anymore. Even when they provide you with the information like I listed above, most people don’t read that part of the poll.

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    • airboss1Comment by airboss1
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:32 am

      OK, letmethink, why don’t you educate all of us “uneducated voters” exactly what same-sex marriage will do to our economy, insurance, property ownership and employment rights? By the way, Obama won with 51.02% of the vote because millions of Republicans and Conservatives sat home on their ***-s because they wanted to make a point. Well they made their point alright, they showed how stupid we are to be squabbling over these social issues and not concentrating on doing everything to get rid of these progressives.

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:32 am

      “This is because the liberal media has championed this AND it’s because many more people have” – airboss1

      So your argument consist of go with the flow, yesterday 70% were agains today a majority are for, and you think whim is a rational bases for decisive action

      This is exactly the reason why the founders created a republic

      You probably missed the story of the Athenians who had their generals killed whom had just saved the city from an attack they were certain to lose before, all because the mob could be persuaded they were really evil men.

      Don’t believe me, look it up. The founders knew it but today ignorance prevails and if enough stupid people can be made to say the same thing even the Sun will be proclaimed to be going backwards

      You are a fool and it is a terror you can vote

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    • 2chron7v14Comment by 2chron7v14
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:38 am

      Airboss1,
      I have to beg to differ with you.

      You said: “People are realizing that homosexuality is NOT a choice, Doug,”

      Wrong. Of course it is a choice. How else could so many persons have chosen to leave the homosexual lifestyle? Why else would God condemn homosexuality? He only condemns sin, and He would never be so unjust as to condemn us for something we cannot do anything about. Why have researchers never discovered a genetic “cause” for homosexuality? Of perhaps you think it is caused by having a parent who mistreats you as a child or something similar, that is, an environmental factor? If so, then is alcoholism also something completely out of our control? Is cannibalism or other horrible practices, such as practiced by Jeffrey Dahmer, not really out fault, just something we can blame our mother for?
      In reality, homosexuality is a choice, clearly. And it is a terrible choice. Those who come out from that practice time and again describe the horrors of being homosexual. They are guilt-ridden….and guilt comes from a conscience that tells us that we are doing wrong (a choice that we have made). The practices they describe by homosexuals are horrible, including having multiple partners per day, use of all kinds of objects in a desperate attempt to satisfy their out of control lusts, and so on. The suicide rate among homosexuals is many many times higher than for straight persons.
      Perhaps you should stop believing slanted polls and start believing God and commonsense.

      You said: “For God’s sake, Doug, you, as a Conservative, should be leading the charge to take this issue off the table once and for all so we can start talking about the importing things like how to defeat the progressives and get our country back on track”

      What you fail to realize is two things. First, this issue is one that will make or break our country. We will have no free nation if we allow families to be ruined, as this will ultimately do. Homosexuality is a direct attack upon the family, the foundation of our civilization, the one thing that has been most important for passing down our culture from generation to generation (and without a distinctive culture a nation will quickly fall), and the most important way that children are taught right from wrong. Satan has always attacked the family, and this is one of his strongest attacks on it. Second, maybe you are not aware that it is not primarily the small homosexual community that is pushing this. No, it is the huge, well-funded anti-America community, led by communists, socialists, and all others who want to bring us down. The Soviets many decades ago realized that ruining America’s families would ruin America. They are the ones who started pushing the homosexual agenda. Hollywood has aided that cause, as you would expect from a group that always champions anti-American causes. Polls are slanted, intentionally. Many years ago, the homosexuals claimed that 1 in 10 persons in America was a homosexual. The truth was that it was probably more like 1 in 200. But the propaganda helped their cause. The polls today do the same.

      You said: “Let people live their lives in freedom.”
      A nation that allows unchecked freedom will cease to be a free nation. Homosexuality harms the fabric of our nation. Should we also allow polygamy and bestiality and allow people to marry horses and inanimate objects? Should we allow all sorts of perversions, under the disguise of saying that they are not choice? A civilized society must have restrictions on its people. And failing to have this restriction will do serious harm to our nation.

      You said: “Let’s focus on free markets, smaller government, lower taxes and a strong military and we’ll start winning elections.”

      What good will winning elections be if Republicans have to become Democrat-lites in order to win? It is always people like you who give us McCains and Romneys as our candidates, who then lose because they are too similar to the opponents. We will win by showing that we are different, by contrasting the policies of Republicans with those of Democrats. We will not win if we compromise on our core principles, whether those be economic issues of social issues. We must stand for what is right, regardless of the possible cost. Would George Washington have told Americans that they needed to compromise? I don’t think so.

      You said: “You keep writing articles like this and tell the moderates and Independents that Republicans are nuts.”
      Wrong. His article is reasoned and reasonable. Moderates and independents are not all liberals, as you seem to think. Many will support a party that stands for what is right. Republicans could win by simply getting all Republican voters to vote for them and a small percentage of independents, who are typically more conservative that you realize.

      You said: “By the way, with over 50% of marriages ending in divorce and broken families and 50% of first births now being to unwed mothers, we can only stand to improve our society by allowing loving, same-sex couples to wed and raise families.”

      That reasoning is so defective that I don’t know where to begin. But I will say that the 50% of marriages ending in divorce is WRONG. The statistic you are thinking of simply says that for every two new marriages, there is one divorce. But there are many married couples who have been married for decades. Some of those who did not marry last year did get divorced. So, if 95%, say, of married couples married prior to last year, and half as many as married last year got divorced, that would mean that 5% married last year and 2.5% of married couples divorced last year, with most of the divorces coming from the large pool of already married couples. Do you see the point?
      Also, one reason so many have divorced in recent decades is that we as a nation have compromised on what is right so much. We allowed more and more filth on the TV, for example, which results in dissatisfied couples, who think there must be something wrong with their sex lives, because it is not perfect as is portrayed on TV. So they divorce, because they also believe the TV/Hollywood lie that sex is the most important thing in a relationship. I could go on forever about the way that our moral compromises have resulted in the divorce rate you stated (incorrectly stated, but there is indeed a high number of divorces).
      By the way, homosexual couples also divorce. In fact, the promiscuity rate among homosexuals is much higher than among straight couples. And that tends to lead to divorce, obviously.

      You said: “We need to start moving back to freedom.”

      Freedom only comes through doing what is right. Any idiot can live as he pleases. The results will not be freedom but bondage. Ask anyone who has ever left the homosexual lifestyle. They describe it as the worst type of bondage.
      Bottom line: God condemns it, and so should we. That does not mean that we cannot love the people who are homosexuals. But a loving person does not condone what is wrong, no matter who is doing it (are you listening, Rob Portman?).

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    • 77fordComment by 77ford
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:41 am

      Airboss 1 you are whats wrong with America today you are a RHINO True Republicans are the ones that are trying to keep this Country True in its Values that it started with and it was started by people who believed in the LORD GOD not buddha or allah or anybody else so called god and every Holy Bible has said Homosexual behavior is a sin and we cannot change that just because you want to and also there have be many cases where people have complete 180 turnarounds. The reason we have not had a republication in office is the Democrat give away to people that do not need or deserve also there has not been anybody trying to educate a lot of our low educated people what they are voting there is a lot of people out there that cannot read or write above a 3rd grade level and they vote democrat because that was what there parent did and there were so many years that all local races were democrats and the only why to vote for them was to be a democrat and there is still a lot of people that know that has been changed. And with the black population a majority of them will vote for a black candidate just because there black not a raciest just stating facts we need to get out and teach these thing to people because the liberal media is not going to talk about it also I know that I do not write the best but I try to get my point across

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:49 am

      “exactly what same-sex marriage will do to our economy, insurance, property ownership and employment rights” – airboss1

      Are you claiming there will be no impact what so ever?

      Which begs the question how can change happen and then everything look the same

      Did you happen to think of that?

      I know you lack in education, are not familiar with logic but your arguments shows someone living in a fantasy land where one can eat their cake and have it too

      I cannot tell you specifically what will happen but I can tell you that a population which can be persuaded to think some thing different is the same thing can be fooled into all manner of things and will not be capable of making good judgment needed to keep a highly technical civilization running

      They are being lead by those whom are confused as to what is the reason for sex, but this was all predicted thirty years ago with no fault divorce and the rise of single mother house holds. They were told what their parents were doing was right and they needed to accept it.

      So they were taught wrong was right, should not expect they would know better now

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    • rrg51Comment by rrg51
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:01 am

      I don’t know if it’s “for God’s sake” that we’d take the issue off the table.

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    • gramma4freedomComment by gramma4freedom
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:02 am

      homosexuality is a choice…I have read a number of testimonies where people who have lived in a homosexual lifestyle have turned from that lifestyle when they received Christ as their Lord and Savior…homosexuals have tried to ban a program ‘Love Won Out’ offered by Focus on the Family because it shows that homosexual tendencies can be overcome. What people do in their bedrooms is their business, but don’t make a law that forces others to accept their behavior. Don’t forget the photographer in NM who refused her services at a same-sex wedding and she was fined $7000 for doing so. What will happen to pastors who refuse to marry same-sex couples???? They will be sued for discrimination. What will happen to bed & breakfast businesses who refuse to rent a room to same-sex couples???? They will be sued for discrimination. What will happen to pastors who preach against the sin of homosexuality as is stated in Romans and 1 Corinthians???? They will be sued for discrimination. What will happen to bakeries who refuse to bake a wedding cake and set it up at a same-sex wedding??? They will be sued for discrimination. Instead of agreeing that fore-mentioned cases and finding business that will cater to them…homosexual radicals will definitely sue, wasting people’s time and money. Yes, approving same-sex marriage is going to cause a whole lot of problems.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:05 am

      56% of whose manipulated poll taken by Liberals and propagandized in the liberal media to project their agenda to corrupt. Just how was the question worded?

      1. DO you believe that people should be allowed to marry the person they Love?

      or

      2. Should people be allowed to marry anything they love including their 4 year old children, pet Dobermans, brother, sister, or the palms of their hands by the legal name on marriage certificate called of Handy Andy.

      Just where does it end and what makes them think they know more than all the mistakes learned from 4500 years of civilization trial and error?

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    • GoldminerComment by Goldminer
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:34 am

      Homosexuals, tri-sexuals, bi-sexuals, etc are not being denied their Rights as it pertains to marriage. What THEY want to do is define marriage as THEY want it to befor their personal purposes.

      Homosexuals cannot produce off-spring w/o a member of the opposite sex being involved. It does not happen naturally within the human species, therefore homosexuality is NOT a normal natural behavior pattern. To say otherwise makes no sense because humanity would not continue were everyone a homosexual. Therefore, it seems to me that it would be smart to find out WHAT has caused this “condition”. Did it happen in the womb, in upbringing, a psychological issue? What has caused it to happen? Correct that and this won’t be an issue; as it certainly is really not one now. An element of society is making it one to protect a deficiency that may not be of their own making.

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:37 am

      “Yes, approving same-sex marriage is going to cause a whole lot of problems” – gramma4freedom

      You are right and the lie being told it will cause none is in keeping with all the others they have told.

      There is another case in Oregon where a baker would not accept a job to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding, which took place in neighboring Washington state.

      Oh yea, the state should not tell anyone who they can or cannot marry, they loudly proclaim but they are more than willing to use the state to force others to accept what they think is marriage

      Just a bit of a double standard

      And anyone who does not think double standards do not cause arbitrary rule, which is tyranny, have not given this a bit of thought, or read a history book.

      This will lead to direct oppression, restrictions on freedom of speech and of religion

      And the evidence already exist to show both

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    • thecitizenComment by thecitizen
      March 28, 2013 @ 1:12 pm

      “In a recent poll over 56% of Americans polled agree that gay marriage should be legalized.”

      Oh, yeah? 56%, huh …? Well, AB1, what was the poll’s population demographics? How, when (what time of day) was this poll conducted and, by whom? What is the margin of error? Etc., etc., blah-blah-blah.

      Point is, some nefarious folks can ‘make’ a poll say just about anything they want it to say and broadcast it to an unsuspecting public and without extraneous info, there is no way to really interpret/translate the results!

      Then again some other folks, thinking that that alone lends weight to their argument (and after all, who’s ever gonna know?), might knowingly regurgitate ‘recent poll’ data that is faulty or suspect.

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    • juicyfruit56Comment by juicyfruit56
      March 28, 2013 @ 1:13 pm

      Please tell me who conducted this supposed poll of 56% of Americans agreeing that same sex marriage is just fine? Our government run media skews the polls all the time for their convenience. Same sex marriage if it was upheld as legal opens the door to numerous acts not even thought of. If a gay has the right to marry the same sex then incest would be legal. Sodomy would be condoned, it already is between two men, polygamy would be condoned, what if someone wanted to marry their dog wouldn’t that be their right? And as far as gays raising families, how exactly do they go about getting their family. Can two men create a baby, can two women create and baby? Not unless we have moved into the twighlight zone. And children who are brought up in these same sex marriage families do not have to be taught to be gay it will come natural for them. Envirnoment pal plays a huge part in social modification. One only has to look into the lives of many blacks in our society who live off the dole. Get the statics their offspring also live off the dole. They didn’t have to be taught it, they lived and learned it. Let’s ask some of these 40,000 children who are now being raised by gays, what they feel 10 to 20 years from now. Social issues are the backbone of our society. Moral decay has become rampant. Let’s look at abortion. If continues the way it is going in America you will not need to have an abortion. You will be able to kill your child if that child becomes a burden to you. It’s already legal to kill a baby in Illinois up to seven months. And if the abortion is botched the baby can be killed upon birth. Thank Communist Obama for that one. So what you have written here today Airboss is where off base. If you are gay and I assume you are, leave the kids out of it. Go to a remote island with 200 other gay men, and in twenty years lets see how many children you have produced. The answer will be zero. God and only God created man and woman for one reason and one reason only and that reason is called reproduction. To put it blatant, you are an idiot!

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    • 1389ADComment by 1389AD
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:40 pm

      Right vs. wrong is not settled by majority vote.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:44 pm

      Polls are only valid if they support some politico’s opinion.

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    • kuhndogComment by kuhndog
      March 28, 2013 @ 3:52 pm

      Airboss1 – I could not agree with you more. FOCUS on the REAL PROBLEMS PEOPLE!
      LetmeThink – I agree there are a majority of uniformed voters out there. If we want to take back our country we need to inform them – not drive them away so they can’t hear our real message.
      Assuming you would allow for gay Civil Unions to have the same rights as marriage – I don’t see what the problem is. The word marriage has had MANY meanings over the years. It used to include polygamy, marriages of pure convenience, etc.

      The real issue you people do not want to talk directly about is the children. Single people – even gay single people can adopt a child add raise him as they choose. Why would marriage or civil unions for that matter make a difference to that?
      So if you want to stop the adoption rights of thee people – go ahead and try. THAT is a truly loosing argument.
      Don’t get me wrong – I think it is much better for a child to grow up with both a mom and dad at home – preferably with one of them a homemaker. But that does not give me the right to prevent others from choosing a different lifestyle.

      Lets try to win the next election. The way to do that is to FOCUS on the real conservative issues of small government and freedom.

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 28, 2013 @ 5:25 pm

      “The way to do that is to FOCUS on the real conservative issues of small government and freedom” – kuhndog

      I cannot see how you imagine going from one type of marriage to at least three, and that is assuming it is limited to man/woman, man/man, woman/woman and not all the other combinations like man/man/woman, man/woman/woman, or man/man/woman/woman, will possibly result in smaller government

      It is basically saying you can drive on both sides of the road, both directions

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    • braines57Comment by braines57
      April 1, 2013 @ 6:03 pm

      The missing piece of data about that poll is that it is “56% of the 47%”! Polls are determined by the database used to conduct the poll. If you poll a database made up of liberal morons, you get a moron response. If you poll educated folks, you get an educated response. However, many of those polls are conducted when people who work for a living are either at work or on their way home from work. So who does that leave to respond? God calls homosexuality an abomination – those aren’t my words, they are His, so if you have a problem with it, take it up with the Creator of all. If you don’t think that legalizing something that God calls an abomination will impact us, you are probably one of those godless morons who also want to legalize marijuana and prostitution. Oh, and while you’re at it, let’s allow Sharia law as well. NOT!This is still the United States of America – one nation under God and His name is NOT Allah and He did NOT create Adam and Steve, He created Adam and Eve. This nation was founded by Christians based on the Bible – if you don’t like it, leave. There are some great countries over in Africa for someone like you where you can engage in every deviant thing your little heart desires. Do us a favor – take all of your liberal homo friends with, ok? Don’t let the lightning strike you on your way out!

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  6. 77fordComment by 77ford
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:51 am

    This is the reason I think the supreme court should have term limits and must not rule to make laws .and I also think all elected officials should have term limits of say 12 years total total in fed office 8 years state office but let local aunties decide on there elected offices term limits by local ballot. Also state and fed officials weather elected or appointed should should get no more than 1/3 currant pay and just social security for retirement and medicare for health care. Another thing is first ladies have 1 personal assistant and the President and his family should pay for there vacations all expenses outside the untied states outside the united states all room and board pay the same rate as airlines would charge for first class tickets and luggage rates.

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    • rzraickComment by rzraick
      March 28, 2013 @ 8:38 pm

      There is a reason that the supreme court was not to have term limits. The founders wanted one branch of government to be immune from the influence of the electorial mob.

      But it is rather frustrating to see what is happening today.

      As long as the socialists continue to brainwash the Amercan people, we are doomed to a faulty mob rule. This is a much broader issue than just the Supreme Court.

      In a nation of mob rule which can use a majority to break the laws of the Constutution, we are dooomed to a spiraling down to total destruction.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 29, 2013 @ 12:36 am

      I fear you may be right 77ford. Sometimes I’m glad that I’m old as dirt and probably won’t live to see this destruction of our country play out.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 29, 2013 @ 12:55 am

      Correction to my last post.
      Apparently I ran out of time before I was able to finish.

      I fear you may be right rzraick. Sometimes I’m glad that I’m old as dirt and probably won’t live to see this destruction of our country play out. It’s a pity that we as a nation have run all over the world for decades fighting against what we seem to be headed for. How ironic.

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  7. oldsaltydawgComment by oldsaltydawg
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:59 am

    If this Court rule forGay Marriage they will be putting the last Nail in America’s coffin.Americawill be DOOMED to FFAILURE if Gay marriage is allowed Natin wide.The first two strikes against America came by way of the High Court also the first based on a LIE threwq out the BIBLe and now we have children killing ech other over the STUPIDIST of things. The Next Strike came when once again the High Court used aLIE to approve the MURDER of the unborn.Anyone who will look can see that those two LIE vbased rulings have caused GREWAT HARM to America and if approved by the High court Gay marriage will be the Strike that DOOMS this Nation to becoming nothing but a pathetic tenth world slum of the world.GOD is showing hisDISPLEASURE for the first two strikes and will remove all blessings from America as a whole if the INFINITE STUPIDITY that Gay marriage is.GOD creator of All and the only one qualifies to sqay what his creation is says that Gay anything is an ABOMINATION and that is all we need to know to say NO to the STUPIDITY and LIE that Gay marriage is.Those who are trying to tell GOD he is WRONG will get their just reward very soon since this is proof the BIBLE is right and time of he end is getting very near time wise.SO we all need to be ready for that event by accepting Christ’s work on the cross as payment for our sin and get our soul right for that very event(the end of time).

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    • airboss1Comment by airboss1
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:08 am

      We’ll never win elections with rants like this!

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    • Jota_Comment by Jota_
      March 28, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

      “We’ll never win elections with rants like this!” – airboss1

      The Founding Fathers knew for a people to remain free and maintain self rule would require they be both educated and moral

      Because one or both of these must be lacking for those who advocate as long as they leave the head inside it is ok to scrabble the brains of a baby and is ok, to win an election

      What you are offering to win elections is to abandon any standards at all and will cause the loss of the country

      I do not agree with all, their religion but I much prefer those whom think it is better to fail seeking after what is right than those whom wilfully cave in to what is most assuredly wrong

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  8. sd1620Comment by sd1620
    March 28, 2013 @ 10:01 am

    if roberts betrays us again he,s the new earl
    warren

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    • burner123Comment by burner123
      March 28, 2013 @ 11:26 am

      Earl Warren nor John Roberts didn’t betray anyone, they interpret the law and properly. Roberts didn’t agree with Obamacare. Obamacare is really a tax law and the congress has the right to levy taxes. The problem is the folk we elected. We need to elect the people that have enough sense to know what is in a bill before the vote for it.

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    • truthsayerComment by truthsayer
      March 28, 2013 @ 7:53 pm

      I THOUGHT ROBERTS WAS THE ONE JUDGE WITH INTELLIGENCE, BUT APPARENTLY NOT. HE SOLD US OUT, AND WILL LIKELY DO SO AGAIN. IF YOU CANNOT TRUST THE SUPREME COURT, WHO CAN YOU TRUST? THE ONES YOU THINK YOU CAN COUNT ON LET US DOWN. WE HAVE NO ONE WHO WILL STAND BY OUR CONSTITUTION ANYMORE.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 29, 2013 @ 12:10 am

      And Chief Justice Earl was never impeached either even though I remember billboards all over the country with “Impeach Earl Warren’ on them. Not sure what that proves, but it makes me think that “We the People” don’t have near the power we were told we did in school.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 29, 2013 @ 12:16 am

      I’m not sure I can agree with you burner123. Roberts had to re-write the case so that Obama got his way. The fact that it’s a tax doesn’t mean anything to Obama except more money to blow.

      So we’re stuck with Obamacare which is what Obama has been plotting all along.

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  9. EHeasslerComment by EHeassler
    March 28, 2013 @ 10:02 am

    Doug, I think you already know the answer to your own question. Roberts sold out to the WH and will never be a Conservative or uphold Conservative values again. We’ve been had.

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 29, 2013 @ 12:04 am

      There’s no doubt that he’s a very accomplished attorney and judge. Unfortunately, he knows enough to be able to worm around the intent of the constitution and laws.

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  10. freebirdComment by freebird
    March 28, 2013 @ 10:02 am

    I would refer you to Ike’s comment about his appointment of Earl Warren to the SC: “Biggest fool mistake I ever made!” Once in the court only death, disability or a felony conviction is going to remove them so they are their own person. Hopefully doing their best to do the right thing…time will tell. If he follows his conscience and the law to the best of his ability, he’s not betraying anyone, even if I don’t agree with his view.

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    • pistol packing mamaComment by txgoatlady
      March 28, 2013 @ 10:30 am

      It seems as though the longer they stay on the court, the more progressive they become. Unfortunately, unlike our congress-critters, we can’t vote these guys out when they do that.

      Look at Reagan’s appointees, Sandra Day-O’Connor and Kennedy. They are excellent examples of the liberal drift that occurs.

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    • 1389ADComment by 1389AD
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:47 pm

      It is possible to impeach and remove a Supreme Court justice. It doesn’t have to be for a criminal offense; dereliction of duty, such as failure to abide by his oath of office to uphold the US Constitution, would be adequate grounds.

      The problem is that the Dems own the Senate, which means that the House might be able to get enough votes for an impeachment, but the Senate would automatically acquit a leftist judge in the impeachment trial.

      Such are the consequences of widespread election fraud.

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  11. airboss1Comment by airboss1
    March 28, 2013 @ 10:06 am

    Doug, just read the comment by oldsaltydawg. This makes my point about us Conservatives looking like we’re nuts. I rest my case.

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    • RobertRComment by RobertR
      March 28, 2013 @ 2:47 pm

      Well said. Not much there to hang your hat on. 5th grade education? hmmmm

      We’re done as a country. All you have to do is look at the kooks on both sides and there is no middle ground on any social issue. It’s ‘my way or the highway’ for both sides.

      When I hear homosexuality is a choice I have to laugh. There is NO choice in looking at someone of the same sex and becoming aroused! So called ‘normal’ people cannot be taught, trained or anything else to like someone of the same sex!

      I had an officer in my office some years back who worked child predator cases. I commented that for the life of me I couldn’t see what someone saw appealing in a child. His comment was that it was a good thing I couldn’t or I’d be one of them. Point was made that these people are different beyond their control. No normal male sees anything sexual in a child. If anything the urge to protect them from evil and help them is what they feel.

      We’re losing the fight and we are too clueless to know that we’re out own worst enemy. Last one out don’t forget to turn out the lights.

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  12. putupjobComment by putupjob
    March 28, 2013 @ 11:36 am

    Definitely.
    John Roberts is the modern day Chief Justice Earl Warren.
    Earl Warren was a liberal kook and was appointed by Eisenhower.
    Roberts is a rat back stabber.

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  13. bowler1hatComment by bowler1hat
    March 28, 2013 @ 11:53 am

    Some seem to forget that it WAS an tax BEFORE it was NOT. Kind of a John Kerry moment! And he’s now our Secretary of State. Obama spends more time consulting with Tiger Woods on golf or spends the year figuring out his NCAA 64 Bracket selections while school kids are gunned down at schools and Americans give up looking for work of any kind that have been devastated by over regulations.

    I won’t list all his socialist accomplishments, but I won’t attempt to list the plethora of American dream failures. Obamacare? I’m paying 544% more than I did last year without considering my small military service compensation! Thank you Justice Roberts!

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  14. gyst53Comment by gyst53
    March 28, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

    Tell Chief Justice Roberts – “Don’t tear down a fence until you know why it was put up.” ~ African proverb
    The pursuit of happiness and homosexual behavior was not intended to be a legal burden for everyone, and please advise that equality under the law for immoral or discriminate acts doesn’t exist…let alone require a US Supreme Court Decision!
    (Have we considered the cost of homosexual AIDS, HIV, STD and Federal vs. States jurisdictional challenges. We haven’t truly considered the psychological impact on LGBT family children let alone a total disregard of our individual religious moral beliefs.) When we rule our country by official – judicial mandates rather than by the voice of the people, we should be ready to “pay” the consequences?
    Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

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  15. thomasjeffersonComment by thomasjefferson
    March 28, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

    Thats not John Roberts, he was replaced by an obamaclone.

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  16. Jim ForsytheComment by Jim Forsythe
    March 28, 2013 @ 2:41 pm

    How can you trust anyone connected with the government? They all seem to betray us. There is only one marriage, i.e., a man and a woman. These people keep forgetting that God gave us marriage, not the government.

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  17. soonerComment by sooner
    March 28, 2013 @ 3:23 pm

    The Republican Party needs to immediately stop how it decides to nominate SCOTUS justices. The GOP always nominates unknown, hidden judges in hopes that they can be confirmed. They want to make the Democrats happy and not nominate anyone too “controversial” for fear that the Democrats will say “NO!” (Robert Bork, Abe Fortas). Sometimes, these under-the-radar candidates have even gone bad (William Brennan, David Souter) or we have had to settle for less than ideally conservative justices (Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O’Connor). Every once in a while we get lucky (William Rehnquist was Nixon’s 3rd choice). Sam Alito was unknown but looks like he’s working out OK. Just lucky, I guess. John Roberts was kind of unknown and it looks like he’s blown it on Obamacare and it looks like he’s going to blow it again! Have you noticed though that the Dems never have this problem? The GOP never protests a SCOTUS nomination of the Dems no matter how cooky! (Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan, etc, etc.) They love this: “The President deserves his nominations” foolishness even if he nominates a cat! This just proves again that the GOP are chumps and need to learn to fight back or they will be not just a minority party but, an extinct party. Can you say, Libertarian?

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    • sumitchComment by sumitch
      March 28, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

      Seems to me that the Republicans are loath to challenge any of Obama’s nominations be they Supreme Court, his cabinet or his endless army of Czars. For some reason these new young lions we’ve elected are getting lectured to and chastised by such old guard statesmen (insert tongue in cheek here) as McCain etc. when they speak up for their constituents (us).

      What are most of the Republicans afraid of? Does Obama have a picture of them all with someone else’s wife?

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  18. arclightComment by arclight
    March 28, 2013 @ 3:36 pm

    Answering the (not) rhetorical question in the article’s title: yes, I think it highly probable that Roberts will make a political call on all business before him. His call on Obamacare put the SC’s credibility in the sewer. Every single one of the Supremes seems to have an agenda while they so ineloquently pretend they do not. I think the SC has reached an all time low. A wretched low.

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  19. willyrhoComment by willyrho
    March 28, 2013 @ 3:53 pm

    Sodom got blasted by a huge asteroid way back around 3200 BC. Now say that did happen. God will not be mocked, because he has the Big Stick. Or Big Asteroid. Bye Bye SF Bay and DC.

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  20. willyrhoComment by willyrho
    March 28, 2013 @ 3:56 pm

    When Roberts retires to the South Pacific on his own Island with a huge vault containing a ton of Gold, a long ton of course. He will be in a happy state of his own. The Anti Christ may even let him name his country John Roberts Chief Justice’s Island. Land of Liars and Cheats.

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  21. willyrhoComment by willyrho
    March 28, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

    Roberts Island will be next to that Georgia Judges Island, you know the Judge that let Obama be placed on the Ballot in 2012. He got his state approval for 2 Nuclear power plants two weeks after his decision to let Obama on the ballot. Of course he also go 8 Billion dollar grants for each Nuclear reactor. And the State of Georgia gave that Judge an Island off the coast of Georgia with 100 million dollars worth of gold in that vault on his new Island.

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  22. biloak71Comment by biloak71
    March 28, 2013 @ 4:49 pm

    For sure, this is an explosive topic – and question. The people commenting here are covering the subject well. I ,however, want to add my two cents only on the author’s question. Will Roberts cave again? I have no confidence in the SCOTUS coming down on the marriage side. Especially since Roberts’ lesbian cousin is observing the goings on up close; inside. There is no more 5-4 split: the liberals, while small in number, are running the show, including the Supremes. The libs are entrenched and Obama’s feet are cemented in place. As they say,it’s a no brainer. Thanks a lot wimp Roberts!

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  23. lowlifeComment by lowlife
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:22 pm

    Roberts’s proven ability to rule based on politics, rather than the plain meaning of the Constitution, puts him in the same category as Kennedy. Since he isn’t guided by anything in particular, there’s no way to predict what he might do.

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  24. steven LComment by steven L
    March 28, 2013 @ 9:24 pm

    He gave-up on his principles. He will give-up again, no doubts about. Perhaps a crypto-socialist. He must have evolved at the super-speed of the light. When will the Muslims be evolving?

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