Comments on: Elder: Dorner - Another Angry Fatherless Black Man With a Gun

By: middleground

middleground — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:47:28 +0000

This is not just a problem in the Black Community and hasn’t been for at least 60 years, but unless you have a family member whose sense of “worth” and “dignity” has been destroyed by government programs run by compassionate social workers, no one knows about the problem. My brother-in-law had older sister who got trapped in the entitlement world as it existed in Oregon from the 1950s to the present. She got $115.00 extra for every illegitimate child she produced, so she had 13, which her brother, a successful businessman, described as “totally worthless” and unemployable members of society. Since Oregon was giving in the 1980s approximately $23,000.00/year to single mother, imagine adding another 12×12 x 115 per month to this total or about $40,000.00/year. It is a wonder only 41% of America’s births are to single mothers.

Multiple 1.5 million births to single mothers by $40,000 for just one year and you can understand why the US is going in debt, Remember this is just one of our compassionate programs.

By: inluminatuo

inluminatuo — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:25:41 +0000

No wonder the new generation of children love government so much, their parents sure are not doing the things that endear a child to their parent,,,one of which is AWOL having been driven off the field of the battle for the child’s soul by the secular government empowered women of dependency.

By: braines57

braines57 — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:11:07 +0000

Another product of the liberal nanny state and its victim mentality of entitlement is that the government has made it economically advantageous for certain members of society to reproduce irresponsibly, without any concern for the outcome or its impact on the offspring.”Free” food, “free” shelter and “free” medical care do not compensate for a lack of nurture within the home, including the discipline that is an integral part of the nurture as it teaches the child that boundaries exist for a reason and that reason is the welfare of the child, the family and the community. As it is written, reap what you sow and we in the U.S. are reaping generations of government growth as a replacement for individual responsibility.

By: mystic

mystic — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:04:10 +0000

I respect and enjoy reading Mr. Elders punditry. I believe he points out a glaring inconsistency that has emerged these past two decades. A white perp…his whole life, family life, love life (or lack there of) is put on display as if it answers somehow what went wrong or how he ended up in such a state. I can not say the same in reverse for ANY minority group, whether it be Asian, Hispanic, African American, Russian etc etc etc. This ‘why’ explanation only seems to apply (in print and MSM) to Caucasian perps.

I can answer that in part. When a stereo-type is in reality a larger truth within any given category, the stereotype is no longer a stereotype is it…it’s truth. Does it apply 100% of the time? No of course not. However when 99% of the time it applies and yet we become squeamish and wiggly at sighting that truth…that becomes our own failing…not the failing of the communities affected by said truthful stereotypes.

This Dornor guy… so many red flags. His father died. He didn’t abandon the family. There was no divorce. Mother obviously didn’t remarry…and ? yeah? so? Dr. Carson, who just took Obama to task this last Friday, had a very similar situation, and yet he is a success. His father was a bigamist…two family’s. His mother was 13 years old when she married said man. And yet, she produced two boys who became very productive, healthy, well stature men in their respective field of neo natal neurosurgery and architecture. Is someone really going to tell me one family is the whole of the experience? No, Dr. Carson and his situation is the 1%, Dornor and his family, prior to the killing spree, could boost the same healthy well educated hard working son that Mrs. Carson could.

This story and topic applies much better to those it fits. Dornor, not a gang banger, not a Chicago or East LA thug, served his country and then his city. He snapped…just like a Hispanic postal worker who strangled a 11 year old girl for laughing at him for walking into the women’s public bathroom instead of the mens. Just like the polic men who accidently (jumpy imo) shot two hispanic woman due to the truck they were driving thinking it was Dornor….this has nothing to do with Father’s in the home…this has to do with the men themselves!

Does a child do better with two parents in the home? Duh, big red trucks! Yes..of course they do. So what excuse do those of us who had no father in the home, are well adjusted, hard working, well educated get? We don’t is the answer.

Stop rationalizing and asking why…and instead DO. Speak up, be well educated, call for help when you see the need for it. Stand on your own two feet and stop blaming parents for every single little thing. Start plowing into those who harm other’s..and see where that takes us instead.

By: veryoldcoot

veryoldcoot — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:11:14 +0000

Brother Elder’s comments are always cogent and right on time. However, it seems obvious that the best way to deal with BaBa’s kids is to go after BaBa, as was firmly established in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago when the security guard tasered BaBa to subdue her unruly kids. It worked!

By: inluminatuo

inluminatuo — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:57:11 +0000

“Every father should remember that one day his son will follow his example instead of his advice”

“One night a father overheard his son pray: Dear God, Make me the kind of man my Daddy is. Later that night, the Father prayed, Dear God, Make me the kind of man my son wants me to be.”

No wonder those who seek to destroy a society must first attack and remove the authority of the concept of loving father, first heavenly, then the corporal one here in the flesh, and replace it with concept of government caring collective. Just how well is father Obama and his collective social conscience doing for the nationwide communities he now organizes?

“What was silent in the father speaks in the son, and often I found in the son the unveiled secret of the father.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Call it the Freudian social attack of the Killer African honey bee whose sweet offerings always are accompanied by the hidden big stinger that always follows in his wake. Just Another angry man seeking to find his lost father and leaving social desolation in the wake of his search. Yes indeed look to Obama as the national paradigm of the abandoned puerile canary in the coal mine cave-in of American society. It is the damaged who now lead the nation to our own decline.