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Salvato: Why Is Boehner Negotiating with Obama at All?

By Frank Salvato

As the nation stands ready to plunge over the so-called “fiscal cliff,” it has become obvious that no matter how many ways House Republicans find to “increase revenue,” in an effort to meet President Obama and his Progressive brethren in compromise, nothing short of complete capitulation will placate the spendthrifts existing on the Left side of the aisle. It is abundantly clear that Mr. Obama and Congressional Democrats intended all along to allow sequestration to occur, resulting in both the slashing of the budget at the Pentagon (an ongoing quest of both Democrats and Progressives) and gaining political capital in being able to con low-information voters into believing Republicans caused the problem in the first place.

One point that needs to be made – and understood – by even the most apolitical among us is this: Congress, and specifically the US House of Representatives, is where all legislation concerning revenue is mandated to originate. Article I, Section 7, of the United States Constitution reads:

“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”

And while the verbiage that follows outlines the processes by which the presidential veto and congressional veto overrides are to be executed, nowhere is the power of the purse – the ability to create legislation that raises revenue – extended to any other branch of government or congressional body.

I bring this fundamental tenet of our system of government to the forefront because I am puzzled as to why House Republicans, led by Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH), are negotiating budgetary financial matters, a responsibility and purview exclusively vested in the US House of Representatives, with anyone outside that body, let alone the Executive Branch, which only has the constitutional power of the veto over said legislation?

Such are the questions that arise when the bully pulpit is used to usurp the constitutional order of our government.

The Framers were very specific to empower the House with being able to originate legislation pertaining to revenue because they understood that members of the House were the most vulnerable of the federally elected to the ballot box. The people could more easily vote out of office House members who abused their trust, and at a more frequent interval. So, to nefariously – and unconstitutionally – reapportion that power to any other governmental body is to commandeer the ability of the people to easily hold their elected officials accountable for fiscal irresponsibility.

If, in fact, the US Constitution were to be followed in this instance, the House would create, debate and vote on a bill that would set the financial abilities of the US federal government for the coming fiscal year. That bill would be presented, as passed, to the US Senate, which, as that point, has the power to “propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.” The bill is then reconciled and is presented to the President of the United States, who, in turn, can either veto the legislation or sign it into law. This isn’t happening today.

Today, we witness the Speaker of the House entering into budgetary negotiations with the Executive Branch, which has no constitutional authority to craft legislation on anything at all. So, the question must be asked, what purpose – or for what reason – is Mr. Boehner inviting the Executive Branch into legislative negotiations involving revenue; a subject area specifically vested in the US House of Representatives?

By allowing the Executive Branch the power – or the perceived power – to sit at the “legislative table,” not only is the separation of powers transcended, it opens up the door for a more potent presidential “bully pulpit” while allowing Democrats and Progressives in the US Senate, led by perhaps the most notorious political opportunist in the history of the United States, Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), the power of the pocket veto and the ability to run “interference” for their Progressive brethren in the Executive Branch so as to create political capital where there – constitutionally – shouldn’t be any.

So again, why are House Republicans even entertaining the idea of budgetary negotiations with not only the Executive Branch, but the Senate, as well? They should simply pass the bill they want to send to the Senate and lay the blame of higher taxes at the feet of the Party and the Movement who exist as the textbook definition of “spendthrift.”

And while we are on the subject of taxes, budgets, debt and the deficit, since Congress – and specifically the US House – is responsible for the power of the purse, let us look back at which political party has historically held control of the US House as it amassed today’s crippling debt.

Since 1933 Democrats and Progressives have had control of the US House of Representatives for 64 years; Republicans have held sway for 14 years. Incidentally, Democrats and Progressives have had control of the US Senate for 58 years during that same period. Additionally, during that same period, there have been 7 Democrat and Progressive Presidents of the United States, starting with Franklin Roosevelt, and 6 Republican presidents.

During that same time period, US federal spending as a percent of Gross Domestic Product has grown from approximately 13 percent to 37 percent today, with spikes during World War II and then again in 2009.

During that same time period, the United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of the Public Debt, in 2010, established that our US public debt has grown from $16.9 billion in 1930 to $13.562 trillion in 2010. Today, that debt stands at approximately $16.410 trillion.

These facts prove one thing without question: that Congress has more power than the President when it comes to raising revenue, spending tax dollars and accruing debt. Regardless of which party held the White House from 1933 on, revenue generation (read; tax rates) have soared, and federal spending – as well as the public debt – has exploded under a predominantly Democrat and Progressive controlled US House and Senate.

So, as President Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi manipulate the mainstream media into presenting the false argument that should Republicans not agree to raise taxes on the “One-Percenters” everyone will suffer, the fact of the matter is this. Democrats and Progressives cannot be trusted with the financial well-being of our nation. History proves this out in no uncertain terms...again...and again...and again. In fact, the only people hurt by the totalitarian demands of the disingenuous Democrat and Progressive Left are We the People. Truth be told, the federal government will still have trillions to spend, just as We the People have less for their fiscal incompetence.

So, I ask again: Why are Mr. Boehner and House Republicans negotiating with President Obama over the so-called “fiscal cliff” when they don’t have to? Why are they negotiating with him when they know it’s a losing proposition? And why are they not adhering to the US Constitution?

Why?

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  2. NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
    December 28, 2012 @ 9:39 am

    The House DID pass a bill extending the current tax rates. They passed it last summer. Therefore they have fulfilled their obligations and are not responsible if the tax rates go up.

    It is the Senate that voted not to extend the current tax rates. They should be held accountable. Unfortunately, the media won’t do that and the vast majority of the public are too stupid and uninformed to realize it.

    The message from the GOP should be clear. Your tax rates will go up becuase the Senate did not pass our bill.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      December 28, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

      So true! The GOP is weak in the knees and will cave. They protect only their own hides.

      I have written to The Speaker three times suggesting he point this out and then take up new business and leave the Senate and Obozo to explain the mess then!

      Negotiating only strengthens the Dictator-in-Chief’s hand. Stop talking to them and watch the rats scurry about like the rats they are!

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    • kestutisComment by kestutis
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

      Great article. House does have the power of the purse. Should use it. Fund next years budget in a bunch of small bills – no omnibus bill. Fund defense and other essentials. Do not fund Education, Commerce, EPA, Big Bird etc. Pass a balance budget. Only those departments funded would be able to operate. Others would be shut down. No need to increase debt limit.
      Kestutis

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  3. smokeComment by smoke
    December 28, 2012 @ 10:57 am

    Perfectly sound commentary, Mr. Salvato.

    If there was proper leadership available to the GOP, and to us who are conservative, we would expect the G.O.P. totake the time and money and COMMUNICATE with AMERICANS just what and why they do what they do….

    I mean by national TV…Simply REMIND (educate) voters that they have full-filled the requirements of the Constitution…i.e.,

    “Article I, Section 7, of the United States Constitution reads:

    “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.”

    Tell America that there is nothing that requires or demands the house negotiate anything with the executive branch…its simply; “…here is what we have decided our budget should look like….accept it or veto….your call!”

    But COMMUNICATE Mr. Speaker…or just go home and have a beer, or something stronger…

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    • mach37Comment by mach37
      December 28, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

      I agree – Boehner MUST speak to the public, tell the public who is blocking the House – that the Senate and President are refusing to negotiate, only demanding that the House yield its position. That is NOT negotiating. The Main Stream Media for its part MUST report Boehner’s explanation verbatim, without twisting his words.

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    • kuhndogComment by kuhndog
      December 28, 2012 @ 4:07 pm

      “The Main Stream Media for its part MUST report Boehner’s explanation verbatim, without twisting his words.”
      yeh – like that will happen

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  4. formerrepublicanComment by formerrepublican
    December 28, 2012 @ 12:35 pm

    This commentary is stupid beyond words. Does it have any purpose except to bash Obama without any justification at all?

    Yes, the House is responsible under the Constitution for tax and spending legislation,… but whatever they pass _has_ to get through the Senate, and _has_ to be signed by the President, so negotiating with both beforehand is just common sense. Why spend weeks debating something that is as DOA as what the GOP wants?

    The House crooks like it that way: it lets them try to spread the blame for whatever atrocity they try to pull off. Obama has finally had it with those clowns whose only goal for the last two years was to make him look bad by blocking him at every step even when it hurt the country. He’s free now, guys: he can actually try to make things better for the rest of us now. Hopefully he’ll man up and do it. A lot.

    The statement about Reps being more accountable to the people by virtue of their short terms is idiotic as well: they also have even more motivation to hand out public money to get reelected.

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    • truckmanComment by truckman
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:28 pm

      You’re not from this Country,are you?

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    • stardustmmComment by stardustmm
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:36 pm

      This response is uneducated beyond words! The reason is that Boehner is negotiating on his behalf based on what he thinks will pass for an entire body of elected representatives. If he gets a bill passed in the House, the debate can still occur, even if the original bill is DOA as you say. But then it comes back and the entire House debates and changes what they can, and it goes back, and forth and back and forth. That is the way it is suppose to work. It keeps all of our elected representatives involved in the process. And it makes them earn their keep rather than being lazy and rubber stamping what the elite decide. You actually get to see how your representative is involved in the process. Do they step up and offer ideas or are they just collecting a paycheck?

      In the current situation, you have a few powerful elites getting together and making decisions for everyone. Sure, they may reach an agreement, but they will do so without the input of 95% of the 435 minds in the House. Maybe one of those 435 has a really good idea, which may not be heard under the current process. Of the people by the people doesn’t work when all we have is seniority rules. If Mr. Reid only blocks the bill and will not make recommendations or counter offers, then it is his fault or the Senate’s, and his actions are exposed. If Obama rejects something the public can see in writing, then we can actually evaluate him. Back room meetings do not give the public the exposure necessary for us to properly evaluate our representatives or our President.

      Mr Salvato makes a valid point that following the intended constitutional process is better and will more likely expose those blocking a resolution.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

      Who are “the rest of us” formerrepublican? So what do you fancy yourself now?

      Obozo doing good for the rest of us?? What cave have you been living in dude? Good…you must be joking. This traitor is all about destroying the country…is that what you consider good?

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    • mrsgunnut10Comment by mrsgunnut10
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:54 pm

      formerrepublican : Have you been asleep for the last four years??? Your comments are way out of line with the rest of We The People’s comments. The reason nothing has passed, that Bohner and the rest of The United States Congress has put forth to the President, lies strictly at the feet of Mr. Big Dog, Harry Reid himself. He is the holdup of all the Bills from the Republican System. Even a Balanced Budget Proposal has been stymied by by Harryass Reid himself. Hope I haven’t busted your beaurocratic bubble, but you really need to get up to Par with the rest of the United States Citizens. Thank you for your time. TSgt., USAF Retired.

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    • NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
      December 28, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

      Guys, go easy on formerrepublican. It is clear that he/she is a grade schooler who hasn’t yet read the Constitution.

      “He’s free now, guys: he can actually try to make things better for the rest of us now.”

      What exactly is he “free” to do? Propose another budget that will be defeated 97-0 in the Senate? Are those the “clowns” that have blocked him? Clearly formerrepublican thinks the Constitution authorizes the President to act without the consent of Congress. Obama may agree, but all he really has the power to do is make noise and threaten people.

      What “atrocity” has the House pulled off? The Republicans in the House are the only people who have offered serious solutions to addressing the fiscal disaster that threatens this country. The Senate has not passed a budget in 4 years, and is a total disgrace. Obama has offered no serious solution, and does not intend to.

      The atrocity is to allow this out of control spending to continue, which will only destroy this country.

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    • mxquistComment by mxquist
      December 28, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

      Your comment is ignorant beyond words.
      If you are a former Republicam, those of us on the Conservative side appreciate you leaving our ranks.
      Does the article have any purpose except to bash Obama?
      Yes, it does, and on many levels that do, by their mention, end up showing Obama and the Reid Senate to be unqualified for their positions, and a detriment to the United State and its citizens.
      One one hand, agreed, it was irresponsable for the House majority to not back Boehner with his proposal, especially after both the Senate Majority Leader claimed outright, before it was even drafted, that he would not even bring it up before the Senate for consideration,and even if he did, the President said, before it was even drafted, that he would veto it if it came across his desk. If the House had passed it, that would have put the fiscal burden exactly where it belongs, on the shoulders of the Prsident and the Democratic controlled Senate.
      This, as you seem to be unaware of, has been going on routinely for the last two years. Stagnation from the Senate Leader, who has done nothing of substance in his tenure, and who should be, really, fired from his position and be held crimminally accountable for his inablity, or conscious refusal to pass a budget in the last three and a half years.
      The House is spreading the blame? No, the House has offered many bills to help rectify the situation that the Democrats have plunged us into, only to be mocked and/or ridiculed for their efforts, without a wit of even an hint of an offer of a comprimise, let alone a solution from the Left, except to raise taxes more and more. Because, afterall, it is all a revenue problem, not a spending problem.
      Yeah, right. Which leads to your next accusation:
      The House are Crooks? It is not the House that it is suggestiong that those who make $25oK a year or more pay increased taxes because of their successful business practices–a ploy, by the way, that has been shown countless times will only offer insignicant results as far as revenue, but WILL signifigantly cripple independant job creaters and workers.
      So, Obama has finally had it with “…those clowns…” in the House “…whose only goal…was to make him look bad…”?
      The GOP doesn’t have to do anything to make Obama look bad, he does good job of that by himself.
      If it was not for the overwhelming protection of this man by the major media outlets, who refuse to hold him accountable for his actions, to the point of simply not reporting actions that are questionable or illegal, to, at times, premoting the actuall lies that come out of him and his administration, he would not have been elected in the first place, and especially a second time. In fact, there is be a good argument that he would have been prosecuted for crimes against this Country during his first term.
      The statement about Reps being more acountable to the people is the most heinous thing by lib standards: The Truth. While Conservatives do hold their reps accountable, Libs will round the wagons around any of theirs that have made critical blunders or outright acts against the People of this Country.
      And handing out public money to get re-elected? Are you serious? Obama in his two sucessfull runs for the Presidency has handed out more public money to corporations and institutions in promises of “relief” and “investment” than any candidate before him. And what has the public seen in return for these promises? More business declaring bankruptcy or outright folding, increasing the true unemployment numbers and putting this Country ever so more in a debt that it will have a devil of a time digging itself out of until we get get someone responsable into the Office that knows what he doing.

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    • wildflower0928Comment by wildflower0928
      December 29, 2012 @ 12:51 am

      And exactly how does the big “O” plan to make “things better” for the rest of us? I mean for those of us that are working and supporting those that are not? For those of us who, without consent, have to pay this government a sizeable amount of our paychecks to feed, house, clothe, medicate, school those who prefer to sit around and watch their free cable TV, text on their free cell phones, eat their free steak and shrimp, drive their low interest new cars, live in their government subsidized housing, buy their gold jewelery, get their nails done, get their pedicures. Please tell me how “O” is going to make it better for those of us who push the wagon as opposed to those who do all the riding?

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    • p3driverComment by p3driver
      December 29, 2012 @ 9:29 am

      Your handle, “formerrepublican” says all we need to know regarding your credibility: you have none. If you can’t understand what obama and his COMRADES are doing, and if this article which doesn’t bash obama but points out the Constitution, then you truly are foolish. No further words are necessary because you have no cognitive power, and I doubt seriously that what I’ve said will be understood by your yet-unused-brain.

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    • empty pocketsComment by empty pockets
      December 29, 2012 @ 11:37 am

      Unfortunately, truckman, formerrepublican almost certainly IS from this country. Most who come here legally are from places far more socialist than here (so far)and know it to be an evil ideology, ultimately nothing but harmful to those it purports to “help”.

      Mr. Salvato, you ask, “why”. Why does Boehner not remain within the power of the Constitutional limits and insist the Senate and Community Organizer in Chief do likewise? Fear. He’s “blinking”, faster and faster and I don’t think he knows how to stop.

      I believe it’s because Boehner fears being blamed when it falls apart. Fact is, Obama/Reid/Pelosi consider negotiating with Republicans to be…allowing them to get the coffee. Otherwise they are to remain “seen but not heard” or better yet, just lie down like the doormats they should know they are. And John B. is playing into their plans.

      The GOP WILL be blamed. Not only Barry but his parrot media will ensure it. No matter what happens, no matter the specifics on any deal, whether one is reached or not, whatever harm to the economy and the people will be blamed on the GOP and they will also be demonized for any tax increases (even Obamacare’s– watch and see). To the Left, “Republican” is synonomous with “evil enemy” and “whipping boys”. The Left doesn’t want to compromise with them or just defeat them. The Left wants to destroy them for all time or as close to that as they can get. So Boehner should have just stood his high ground from the start. He assumed, wrongly again, that he was dealing with honorable people, people who care about this country and want the country and its people to prosper.

      The House, under his leadership, has done their job. The next step is the Senate’s, in passing, with or without amendments, the House bill…or defeating it. But as far as I know, it hasn’t even been brought up for a vote, has it?

      Going over the “cliff” is the only way we’ll get any spending cuts anyway. Then the House GOP passes a bill, retroactive, that begins tax reform as has been offered and a separate budget. Stand hard and fast—Not even a discussion about the debt limit or anything else until a budget that cuts actual CURRENT spending by at least 5% (more is better)is passed by both Houses of Congress and signed by Obama.

      I don’t think Boehner is a bad guy, but he’s not the Right guy for that job or he would have done it already.

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    • ladydaiComment by ladydai
      December 29, 2012 @ 7:00 pm

      Just ignore this type of comment. This is a conservative, GOP blog.

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  5. mcoryComment by mcory
    December 28, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

    I can tell you why Boehner is negotiating with Obama: ignorance of the Constitution. Also, another reason is that Boehner like all Republicans want to be seen as nice guys. The problem with both is that Democrats aren’t nice (they are the Devil’s spawn), and they are just as ignorant of the Constitution.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:48 pm

      I think he understands the Constitution…he just is weak and has no b***s to show the power of the document in action. He and the other weak GOP so called leaders would rather play games and faint concern so to keep their roles in place.

      We are alone folks! The GOP represents the GOP and nothing more!

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  6. truckmanComment by truckman
    December 28, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

    Oh-the Democrats understand it ALL-as they’ve re-interpreted it. They seem to be all about not what the Constitution SAYS,but what THEY think it actually MEANS. That’s how they’ve managed to misunderstand the Second Amendment so badly-they’re going by THEIR INTERPRETATION of the Second Amendment’s true meaning.

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    • powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:45 pm

      So true….and on target. The Constitution means nothing to the Demorats unless they can twist it to their warped view and then brow beat anyone who disagrees by attacking you like a dog on a bone.

      Obozo has many times over the past 8 years given speeches where he says comments like “damn the Constitution”, “The Constitution is an outdated document”. He and his band of thugs want nothing better than to burn the original and re-write it all in the view of the Communist Manifesto!

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    • BadgerComment by Badger
      December 31, 2012 @ 11:24 am

      PTP … Has anyone ever spoken to a student who took this class O taught ??? Newt taught one also, that one I’ve seen on video … inspiring … Newt should be the Potus …. as for O’s class, I doubt you find anyone who took it because it’s probably another MSM fabrication ….

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  7. msgtazComment by msgtaz
    December 28, 2012 @ 2:12 pm

    Remember Obama taught the Constitution in the College he work for, scary isn’t it. WE THE PEOPLE

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  8. mach37Comment by mach37
    December 28, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

    “Negotiating” implies that there is give & take on both sides. Obama is clearly not negotiating, he is standing firmly and not willing to give. Harry Reid is apparently totally in control of the Senate and will not pass any bill the House presents. In other words the Democrats are not negotiating.

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  9. MutantoneComment by Mutantone
    December 28, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

    When your playing with monopoly money,as we are, What does it matter?
    “tax hikes and spending cuts due to begin in early January.” based on what? what are they going to cut, what are they going to use the increases for ? Just what budget is it that they are trying to adhere to?
    Just who was responsible for that lack of any budget yet again?
    We all know where the tax increases will be laid, where will it all end up being spent who knows, but just where will they cut? Without a budget, how do you have a Number attached to it?
    “Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.”
    As long and Obama and the democrats can keep the people thinking that it is the Republican controlled house that is the problem, the democrats gain in political power because of the media and the populations will follow the bouncing ball. After all the House has sent several bills to the Senate all of which were ignored so who is at fault?
    The Leadership? Obama would rather vacation then carry out his duties as president. Nero like, he fiddles while the economy burns.

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  10. stnonlineComment by stnonline
    December 28, 2012 @ 4:16 pm

    Wow, reading blogs like this and the responses to it shows exactly why nothing has gotten done over the last two years in Congress. You all forget that the president got reelected pretty much solely on a platform of raising taxes on those earning over $250,000. He has already backed off a bit from that by going up to $400,000 which sounds like negotiating to me. It is the Republicans who have not backed away from their ridiculous and untenable position of not raising taxes at all and not decreasing spending on defense. Please tell me exactly what negotiating they have done?

    Harry Reid is not going to bring a bill passed by the House to vote if there is no chance of it being passed. Anyone who has watched the bills the House has voted on over the past two years with an open mind will realize that they have been, by and large, symbolic gestures that would have no chance of being passed in the Senate, and thus a waste of everyones time. It is acting like this that has stagnated the legislative process and made going over the “fiscal cliff” a real possibility.

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    • mxquistComment by mxquist
      December 29, 2012 @ 2:18 am

      Wow, reading responses like yours verifies my observations of the blind faith in the madmen who led us to this cliff.
      YOU forget that the President got elected because he promised the out of work and not looking continued freebies, and contributing corporations and institutions more Federal “Investments” in the coffers.
      The President originally refered to “millionairs” paying their “fair share” before dropping down to $250K–$250K is a millionair? No, that range up to the millionaresque levels are the small business people who have been struggling all these years to just keep their doors open to provide the services they offer. Do you realise that the “millionair” bracket so often quoted by libs is based on political/financial levels that go back to the 1930s? Back THEN a million dollars was a LOT of money. Today, especially like here in the left coast occupied state of liberalism of California, that is the cost of basic single family dwelling and some stocks and investment portfolios.
      “Harry Reid is not going to bring a bill passed by the House to vote if there is no chance of it being passed.” Harry Reid has shown that he will not bring a bill to the Senate if it is drafted and approved by Republicans PERIOD.
      He said so in so many words, and was backed up by the President who also claimed that any bill passed by the House, if by some chance approved by the Senate, if written by Republican authors, would be summarilly vetoed, without even the consideration of reading it first.
      The only reason the bills passed by the House have been a waste of time is because of Reid and Obama, and the fact that the major media outlets refuse to report that is one of the biggest crimes committed to this County.
      If the President was as engaged, and found it as important to do his job, to be the Head of State he was elected to, vs the gadfly media ***** he has been since day one, and if Harry Reid was to do his job, and process all ideas offered to him, and–hmm, maybe get off his rigor-mortis *** and pass a budget (for a start), and make the Senate an active branch of the Government again, instead of the gangrenous (sp?) appendage it has become over the last three and a half years, maybe the solutions for this fiscal crisis could be examined, and a solution offered.
      For all their finger pointing at and disparaging statements about the Repulicans lack of effort, it is the Democrat’s level of foot dragging, hate mongering and blame gaming that has brought us to where we are today, and to those who voted for this, when it all comes to a head, you will be as bad off as all of us who tried to warm long well before it had to come to this.

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    • mrickyridgeComment by mrickyridge
      December 29, 2012 @ 8:38 am

      hey stnonline,

      maybe you can tell me any good things harry reid has done since he has been senate leader. Let’s talk about waste. He is a waste of a human being and more of a waste as a paid electorate. it’s an absolute shame he is allowed to take our money for doing nothing. he is the epitamy of waste in washington. they should pay all these morons based on actions and take money and benefits away based on inaction. They should all get paid on a part time basis(because they actually only “work” part time)
      and if that was the case reod would be broke, along with most of the senators and many house members. Newt gingrich has it right, just pass small bills and let things go down and let bozo and gutless reid, and useless pelosi and the other useless senators and house members takt the blame. I give obama credit for one thing, he’s very good and getting people to believe that others are the blame for his ineptitude and lack of leadership.
      Maybe millions of people WILL WAKE UP, when thousands of dollars are taken out of their wallets. They might have to actually pay attention to the politics, instead of paying attention to the useless dribble that they feel is so important(ie., american idol, dance shows, animated shows, reality shows,useless hollywood icons, needless gossip, etc.)
      Time to wake up america and see where this great country is going with these useless, so called leaders.

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  11. usluvComment by usluv
    December 28, 2012 @ 4:29 pm

    That is the 64000 dollar question.

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    • MutantoneComment by Mutantone
      December 29, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

      I think your off a few dollars

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  12. middlegroundComment by middleground
    December 28, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

    The English fought a bloody civil war over exactly this same issue: “Does the king have unlimited power to spend funds not approved by Parliament (our House of Representatives) and by doing so devalue and thus debase the nation’s coinage and cause inflation?”

    In addition to trying to make the House seem like villains for trying to limit the Obama gusher of spending and promises to spend aimed at buying votes, BHO seized two private companies and gave them as rewards to his supporters. These are the actions of a conquering army, yet the Democratic Party in the Senate under Harry Reid and the House under Nancy Pelosi went right along with this abuse of power, but in doing so they repeated the actions of the two sides in the English Civil War with the Parliamentary army under Oliver Cromwell on one side and the Royalists led by King Charles and his noble supporters in the House of Lords on the other. Just like BHO King Charles lied again and again to those in Parliament to retain power, even as he raised armies to force his will on the country. Kings do not like to have their power restricted by a Constitution and that is the real issue in today’s political machinations and the appointments to the SC.

    Those who founded this country were well aware of the abuses of power that led England into a civil war and tried to write a Constitution and Bill of Rights with a Balance of Power between the executive, the Senate and the House that would prevent any group from erecting themselves into a “privileged hereditary class” who would rule over the working or what we call the “Middle Class”. Thomas Paine’s February 1776 book Common Sense outlines this struggle with knifesharp clarity and his arguments are just as valid today as they were then.

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  13. leudnobComment by leudnob
    December 28, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

    In the next few days we are all going to be entertained with a peckerwood duet. Obama will whine and Boehner will cry. This is our leadership!

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  14. diamondjimComment by diamondjim
    December 28, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

    Bravo! I’ve been saying this from day one: Boehner and Company need to make it clear to Obama that they control the purse strings and unless he gets serious about deficit reduction and spending cuts, he is not going to get a friggin’ dime to spend on ANYTHING except essential government services: military, Social Security, Medicare, air traffic control, etc. As one poster above suggested (and as Newt Gingrich has been urging) pass a series of individual bills funding specific agencies and programs at specified (and in most cases. reduced) amounts–no big, pork-laden omnibus packages,–and let the others wither on the vine. If the Senate refuses to pass, or even consider, the spending bills sent over by the house, then let Dingy Harry and his crowd take the hit. If the Senate concurs and Obama vetoes, the Dems will still have to take the blame whether the Obama media cast it in that light or not.

    Despite having re-elected Obama in the last election, I continue to believe that the majority of the American people are not stupid. Too many are just not paying enough attention …not getting past Skippy’s rhetoric to look at what he is actually doing. Nothing will help focus these low information voters more than having a bigger chunk of money pulled from their paychecks to cover increased taxes, costs associated with Obamacare, etc.
    That tends to get one’s attention!

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  15. hisemiester1Comment by hisemiester1
    December 29, 2012 @ 12:59 pm

    And Obama signed a special executive order to give all the lawmakers in DC a raise. fiscal cliff. I think all these congressmen, senators and the president are the fiscal cliff. All should have a reduction in pay to 1/2 of what they make. There should be term limits of two four year terms passed with no pension fund nor health care after office. And they should be barred under penalty of law from lobbing government after office. We need a mean and lean legislature.

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  16. primroseComment by primrose
    December 29, 2012 @ 3:32 pm

    This is the best thread I’ve read in a long time. The article is spot on and so are most of the comments.

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  17. mach37Comment by mach37
    December 29, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

    The Speaker of the House should bring to light the list of bills submitted to the Senate that Harry Reid has been sitting on, taking no action on, as evidence of the Senate’s failure to act on House proposals.

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  18. ladydaiComment by ladydai
    December 29, 2012 @ 7:09 pm

    The purpose of all of this fiscal cliff mess by Obama is to divide and destroy the Rep party. Remember Pres George HW Bush’s no new taxes read my lips. I would say Obama has done a good job of this so far starting in the election. We are hearing outcries of replace Boehner. Reps are at each others throats while the Dems stick together like glue. We wil lose until and unless we too become united.

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