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Patton: Newtown a Microcosm of Government Failure

By Doug Patton

It has become axiomatic that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. In the case of the first responders to the horrific school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, it was 20 minutes, to be exact.

That’s the picture that is emerging from the 911 calls from that terrible day. Twenty minutes. I have tried in vain to imagine my 7-year-old grandson, his defenseless classmates and their equally defenseless teacher being shot to death one by one while waiting 20 minutes for police to arrive. It is a scenario too terrible to conjure in my mind. To imagine local law enforcement personnel taking a full one-third of an hour to respond to such a monstrous event is infuriating. And yet, there it is. Those who wish to protect themselves and their loved ones in almost any situation should not depend on government. How many times have we seen it before?

On September 11, 2001, government failed to protect the unsuspecting victims on those four airplanes, as well as those on the ground. On Flight 93, it was courageous passengers, taking matters into their own hands, who stopped those Islamist monsters from making that day even more infamous.

In September 2005, government — federal, state and local — completely failed the people of New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina flooded the city’s poorest section. Those who were willing and able to take care of themselves and their families were spared. Many of those who counted on government simply perished.

Even the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, last September, was a case study in brave volunteers, not government — especially not this government — making a difference.

And in every mass shooting, in every school or other public place, in every corner of this country, government has betrayed the very people it is sworn to protect, usually by declaring a “gun-free zone” or some other absurd control on the right of private citizens to render protection for themselves, their families and their neighbors.

On October 16, 1991, in Killeen, Texas, an assailant drove his pickup truck through the front window of the Luby’s Cafeteria. He then shot 50 people, killing 23 of them, before turning the gun on himself. Two of those victims were the elderly parents of Suzanna Hupp, whose revolver was useless to her because it was 100 feet away in the glove compartment of her car. Hupp later was elected to the Texas Legislature on a platform of allowing Texans to carry concealed handguns, legislation she successfully pushed through and which then-Governor George W. Bush signed into law.

On April 20, 1999, in Littleton, Colorado, two misfit high school students decided to murder as many of their teachers and classmates as possible. Their subsequent rampage — again carried out in gun-free zone — left 13 innocent victims dead.

On April 16, 2007, at Virginia Polytechnic Institute (Virginia Tech), a lone gunman shot and killed 32 people, wounding 17 others. Another school, another gun-free zone.

A few months later, just before Christmas, on December 5, 2007, in Omaha, Nebraska, a 19-year-old loner walked into the Von Maur department store at the Westroads Shopping Center and murdered eight innocent shoppers. As I wrote in a column at the time, “This individual looked at the ‘no concealed weapons’ sign and read, ‘Murderers welcome here. Please come in and shoot as many people as you like. No one here is capable of stopping you. Even our mall security officers are not armed.’”

January 8, 2011, at a Tucson, Arizona, supermarket, 6 people were murdered and 13 others wounded, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who miraculously survived a bullet through her brain.

July 20, 2012, Aurora, Colorado, in a movie theater that does not allow law-abiding citizens to carry their licensed, concealed firearms, 70 people were shot, 12 of them fatally, by a single shooter.

And now, most recently, we have Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, with its horrendous toll of 26 dead — 20 of them 6 and 7-year-old children. As usual, no one there was allowed the tools to protect them. One of the teachers reportedly huddled with her students in hiding and assured them, “The bad guys are here now. We just have to wait for the good guys to get here.”

Sadly, the good guys didn’t arrive for 20 minutes.

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Doug Patton describes himself as a recovering political speechwriter who agrees with himself more often than not. His weekly columns are syndicated by Cagle Cartoons newspaper syndicate. Readers are encouraged to email him at dpatton@cagle.com and/or to follow him on Twitter at @Doug_Patton. For info on using Doug’s columns at your publication or website, please email Cari Dawson Bartley at cari@cagle.com.

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  1. awmacronymComment by awmacronym
    December 27, 2012 @ 12:36 pm

    Oh please.

    “In the case of the first responders to the horrific school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, it was 20 minutes, to be exact.

    That’s the picture that is emerging from the 911 calls from that terrible day. Twenty minutes. I have tried in vain to imagine my 7-year-old grandson, his defenseless classmates and their equally defenseless teacher being shot to death one by one while waiting 20 minutes for police to arrive.”

    “On September 11, 2001, government failed to protect the unsuspecting victims on those four airplanes, as well as those on the ground. On Flight 93, it was courageous passengers, taking matters into their own hands, who stopped those Islamist monsters from making that day even more infamous.”

    You really think law enforcement officials can be that ubiquitous and anticipate every horrible scenario like the ones above? Twenty minutes is not all that unreasonable considering the manpower in a small town like that. And they could have forseen three planes hitting key targets on that infamous day?

    The only valid point to make would be allowing people armed and professionally trained at the school and in the cockpits. You do law enforcement a huge disservice for blaming them, when they did the best they could with the resources they had. Frankly it is plain offensive to those brave souls.

    And remember, law enforcement and academic entities are often underfunded. Do you want your taxes to increase so there are federal marshals on every plane and peace officers on every campus? Or will you suddenly become fiscally conservative at such a proposal?

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    • changeurhopeComment by changeurhope
      December 27, 2012 @ 12:53 pm

      And your wisely thought out solutions…?

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    • BobinmsComment by Bobinms
      December 27, 2012 @ 12:55 pm

      The kids are still just as dead. Are you going to protect the kids or play politics?

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    • awmacronymComment by awmacronym
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:32 pm

      Bobinms, not sure if you are concurring with my point or disputing it. I agree with you; the kids are still just as dead. I obviously want to protect the kids as opposed to what this article is doing: spinning a tragedy into a scathing blanket political treatise about alleged government incompetence. The article is playing politics, not me.

      Changeurhope, I do not profess to have the wisely thought out solutions. I would prefer to leave that to the experienced experts in law enforcement. However, this article does not have any wisely thought out solutions either. Again, it is just spinning a tragedy into a scathing blanket political treatise about alleged government incompetence.

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    • fabianComment by fabian
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:53 pm

      This article simply states that you’re on your own, which is a fact. People should think about that before giving up the possibility to do something about it.

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    • Allen SComment by Allen S
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:57 pm

      We are all to blame because this country has lost sight of God and His ways in the lives and churches who no longer teach from the Word of God but man-made sermons that mean absolutely nothing because they can’t apply them to their daily lives. God is the only hope for this country and until we decide to put Him first He is going to leave us alone.
      Psalm 33:10 The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of nations.
      II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 2:25 pm

      I would suggest a 35% pay increase for all school employees that will be trained and agree to conceal and carry at work. No need for expensive uniformed security that would be early targets in a well planned mass shooting. All this talk about anti gun legislation is a special kind of stupidity. I for one will never surrender my guns and would prefer to continue my life as a law abiding citizen. I fear that a growing number of clabberheads in Washington have other plans me and my fellow Patriots.

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    • mrwilsonComment by mrwilson
      December 27, 2012 @ 5:03 pm

      What is this **** article? It is whose fault? Every time these evil acts happen we as a nation swear it will never happen again; as with Columbine in 1999.
      The fault and blame game is played in every way and in every direction. Fingers point every-which way. Blame them! The solution is…
      We look every where but to ourselves. Have we, as individuels, done our best this year to make it a better country, a better world. Did we all do our out reach and help children to learn right from wrong? Did we say hello and how do you do to a sad face as we walked down the street. Did we help at a soup kitchen or where ever….?? Did we even support those few who have decided to dedicate their lives to making life better and children happier? A few bucks, rather than that extra television, or fat piece of meat to any group like Focus Adolescent Services, http://www.Focusas.com/ Did I do my best? It is me, it is me first; first in did I do my best and the most I could? That is where I find the blame, right here in me. I can and will do more. I will send a check to those who help and I will get out and work with those who will grow from my abilty.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      December 27, 2012 @ 5:33 pm

      awm, are you an f’in idiot or what? 20 minutes, man, is an eternity. In a small town they could have WALKED there and got there faster. Or are you saying that they cowered in there offices and drove around in their cars until reinforcements arrived? No, EVERYONE should be demanding to know why it took them so long to even respond. The murderer shot out a window next to the locked door. I am assuming, even in a small town like I am from that there was also an alarm on that door, and probably on the windows around it, like in most public buildings with such concerns. I would almost bet that there was an alarm that also went of IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. Just like in Benghazi, were they told to “stand down”, and by whom? 20 flipping minutes, and you want to make it sound like that is not only normal, but acceptable? And has anybody heard anything further about the other person in the woods, you know, the one they claimed at first to be this losers brother, but wasn’t. Has anyone heard anything else about the fact that this Bushmaster AR-15 was found in the trunk of his car, and that the killing was done with pistols? But then the coroner finds that all the victoms were shot with .223′s (AR-15 ammo). If all this stuff doesn’t make you furious mad for the TRUTH, rather than the agenda, your missing the whole point of the article. ASW, you’re a liberal nut job…I vote for taking your hammers away from you, you’re dangerous.

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      December 27, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

      Consider this before mocking the twenty minute time frame as being a ridiculous thing.

      Google shows the Newtown Police building is a mere seven tenths of a mile away from the school. It would take two minutes to go from A to B at the recommended speed limit. There is only one turn, no traffic signals and only one stop sign in between. I would estimate a full ninety seconds to get to the school once in a cruiser.

      If 911 calls happened within one minute of the first shot, and you allowed thirty seconds for dispatch to relay to the police to get action initiated, it means it would still be possible to have a reactionary force show up within only a few minutes.

      And yet that still would not have been soon enough. THAT is the point. The fact that it took TWENTY minutes makes the point even more clear. Where were the police, and why can you not figure out that lives would have been SAVED if SOMEONE already at the school would have had a weapon.

      DUH!

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      December 27, 2012 @ 11:00 pm

      my bad; looked at the wrong school. Sandy Hook is 2.3 miles away on the other side of the freeway and adds about a minute or two to response time. My point still stands. The school would have been much safer if even ONE person was allowed/encouraged to provide a first line of deadly force defense for the children.

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    • FlyboyComment by Flyboy
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:21 am

      Hello awmacronym. Me thinks ye do err ever so slightly. I didn’t see any blame being assigned, only facts being presented. I’m sure that you have had occasion, from time to time, to ask yourself….”why isn’t there ever a cop around when you need one?” I agree with you that law enforcement and emergency personnel did the best they could. But so often the best efforts of these people falls terribly short. I find it a damning indictment of our society in general, that we are having to have this kind of debate. Why is there so little self control and so many psychological disorders we seem to be dealing with these days? These kinds of things never happened, at least not that I was aware of, when I was growing up. As a nation, we seem to have lost our sense of conscience. Our understanding of what’s right and what’s wrong. We live now in a nearly completely a-moral culture where we make all manner of excuse for individuals who commit such heinous acts. Insanity or temporary insanity seems to be the first line of defense. What else could explain such a thing as murdering 20 kindergarten and 1st grade kids and 6 of their teachers? No the nation has by and large lost it’s soul. Under the circumstances we seem to find ourselves in now, the only sane course of action is to have armed security in our schools. Killers are indescriminate, at least in who they choose to shoot, but not in where they go to do the shooting. All “Gun Free” zones where there is no fear of encountering a defender who is packing heat. It is a sad state of affairs in this country indeed that drives us to undertake the measures we must now undertake. I pray that Almighty God will have mercy on us all and grant us His grace to find our way back to that simpler and much more innocent time in our nations history, where we lived in the darkness and bondage of religious and spiritual convictions and the morality and ethics that sprang from them. I’ll quote from the old Testament book of Psalms chapter 2 verses 1-3. Why are the nations in an uproar, and the peoples devising a vain thing? The Kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against His Anointed saying; “let us tear their fetters apart, and cast away their cords from us!” Fetters and cords. The moral dictates of conscience, formed and framed in spiritual enlightenment, are considered by the those who are of this world, as a prison. Don’t shove your morality down my throat! they say. How ironic. Many claim that those who have religious faith are throw backs to a dark and “unenlightened” world. Well, I think it would have been better to stay in the dark, than to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and be condemned to eat its fruit forever. That’s what we’ve done as a nation. We disperse knowledge with no moral context, and wonder why elementary school kids are experimenting with sex, drugs and the like. Why are so many young girls becoming pregnant, contracting venereal diseases, why are so many young boys having sex with so many young girls, using the girls for their own satisfaction and not caring anything for them? The answer is simple enough. Let’s see if you can figure it out.

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    • rubelievingthis2Comment by rubelievingthis2
      December 28, 2012 @ 9:34 am

      “alleged government incompetence”—-3 or more times included in your comments and replies.

      Pretty funny that ANYONE could use “alleged” preceding “government incompetence”! And it’s really NOT a comment on those who work in govt. Many of whom probably DO give admirable effort. It’s just a fact that we cannot control MASSES of ANYTHING, including employees.

      TOO BIG TO SUCCEED is the more accurate phrase. It matters not iif it’s govt workers or stock speculators. NO ONE and NOTHING huge can be exceptional or even efficient.

      For all we know, the first responders were adhering to “the proper procedure” –always the result of a too-large chain of command trying to “ensure accountability”. Hence, efficiency is compromised…no way around it, be it govt or private sector. Govt just has no incentive to get any leaner, any more efficient.

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    • yooper1ehComment by yooper1eh
      December 28, 2012 @ 9:58 am

      Was 20 minutes too long. I don’t really know as I don’t know the situation out there. And can we anticipate events such as this, no. And are we faulting the police and responders, no the article is faulting government and who is government but US. I firmly beleive that had responsible and trained individuals been on site with a concealed weapon that they could have limited the horrer of that day. Weather that would be teachers or administrators that chose to be trained and carry a concealed weapon they would have been on site. But my beleif is that had it been known that there were trained individuals on site that the perp would have gone elsewhere to a gun free zone. So we need to lay blame with US for sending so much money over seas as apposed to haveing trained personel available to deal with the problem. Had a concealled weapons carrier been at the school would it not have been worth it if that person saved even one child, or two. There is evil in the world, Satan is having a hay day and we go right along with him. Evil we can meet it and defeat it or run and hide and face being found.

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    • edodanielComment by edodaniel
      December 28, 2012 @ 5:50 pm

      awmacronym and mrwilson , did you even read the article?

      YOU say “The only valid point to make would be allowing people armed and professionally trained at the school and in the cockpits. You do law enforcement a huge disservice for blaming them, when they did the best they could with the resources they had. Frankly it is plain offensive to those brave souls.”

      Doug Patton said in the article that GOVERNMENT was to blame – and it is for creating the gun free school zones. He never once blamed law enforcement although it has been established in several courts that officers of the law are under absolutely no obligation to place their lives on the line for anyone except themselves. He does point out that a 20 minute response time by law enforcement seems to be a bit much, especially in a small town and with police vehicles having lights and sirens and capable of moving far in excess of normal speed limits.

      He even mentioned Katrina and New Orleans as another example of GOVERNMENT FAILURE (think back to those hundreds of school buses that were left standing in parking lots that GOVERNMENT could have used for evacuation).

      You appear to have skimmed through the article and managed to key on the words “law enforcement” rather than what you should have keyed on and that was words like “it was courageous passengers, taking matters into their own hands, who stopped those Islamist monsters”, and “Those who were willing and able to take care of themselves and their families were spared. Many of those who counted on government simply perished”, and “imagine my 7-year-old grandson, his defenseless classmates and their equally defenseless teacher being shot to death one by one”. I would go on but hopefully you see the pattern – SELF DEFENSE which government rules and regs and laws have hindered the individual from doing.

      If you can bother yourself to read the article again you should see that the author said the same thing you did when you stated “The only valid point to make would be allowing people armed and professionally trained at the school and in the cockpits” except he also included the culpability of gun free zones.

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  2. glenpComment by glenp
    December 27, 2012 @ 12:40 pm

    When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes!

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    • orygunplinkerComment by orygunplinker
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:25 pm

      Just days before the shooting in CT, there was another shooting here in Oregon. It took place @ the Clackamas Town Center mall. 3 innocents were shot, 2 died and 1 wounded before the gunman, armed with a STOLEN AR15, took his own life.

      Why was this number low, considering he had several clips?

      Because there was an armed citizen with a CWP that got the drop on the “suspect”. The CWP holder did not fire because there were others beyond the rifle holder that MAY have been injured should the bullet pass thru the “suspect”.

      When suspect saw CWP holder pointing a legal handgun at him, he fled down a staircase and shot himself.

      Police arrived at mall within 10 minutes. CWP holder was about 50 yards away. Which is better? hhhhmmmmmm

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    • yooper1ehComment by yooper1eh
      December 28, 2012 @ 9:38 am

      very interesting Ory that this did not receive a lot of news splash. Is it because it shows that a responsible person with a concealed weapon stopped a horrific event from being even more so.

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  3. cokeacolaComment by cokeacola
    December 27, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

    How many of those tragedies could have been prevented or scaled down (at least) if the guns used had been harder to get whether through theft or purchase?

    Food for thought!

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    • glenpComment by glenp
      December 27, 2012 @ 12:49 pm

      OBTW CT has the 4th TOUGHEST DRACONIAN GUN LAWS—it’s simpletons like you that are the real problem. OBAMA ’16!

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    • glenpComment by glenp
      December 27, 2012 @ 12:51 pm

      Let’s emulate the DRACONIAN GUN LAWS of places like DC, DETROIT, CHICAGO and LA. crime is really low in THOSE PLACES with the unarmed citizenry!

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    • roadmarksComment by roadmarks
      December 27, 2012 @ 2:10 pm

      Harder such as the VERY left leaning media publishing a list of people with their addresses who legally own guns (as in New York yesterday)? This accomplishes two things: One, it tells theives where to go where there are no registered firearms; and two, it tells theives where to go when people aren’t home to steal one.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      December 27, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

      AAARGH! You are such a mental midget, your name should be changed to “Kool-Aid Sucker”. Didn’t it sink into your coke adled cortex that the Christmas shooter had killed his Grandmother 20, 30 years prior WITH A HAMMER! He was CRAZY. The article is trying to point out to you that stricter gun laws sure aren’t the answer. And that all these incidents are commited by nut jobs. THERE is your answer, dude, let’s address that. How can you libs ignore facts and make up your own? Fact, when the “assault” weapon ban was in place, stats show there was NO decrease in violence! Look where all these atrocities are being committed…in “gun free zones” in overwhelmingly liberal states. And you want to force that upon the rest of us. Nut job!

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      December 28, 2012 @ 1:10 am

      for a criminal……

      wait for it….

      GUNS ARE NOT HARD TO GET!

      DOH!

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    • edodanielComment by edodaniel
      December 28, 2012 @ 6:21 pm

      That would be impossible to know – one could only guess. Based on a long history of attacks on primary schools throughout the world my guess is that it would have happened anyway and if he had to use something other than a firearm his presence and the danger he [posed might not have been known as soon as it was.

      Read through this list and note that firearms ownership in China and Japan is very strictly controlled but the kids are just as dead from knife, cleaver, sword, and bombs. Look too at the US incidents not involving firearms such as the very first one in July 26, 1764 and May 18, 1927 and May 16, 1986 in Cokeville Wyoming before trying to think that a firearm is necessary to inflict mass casualties.

      The incidents where mass casualties were avoided BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WAS ARMED tend to not get coverage by the MSM such as this one:
      http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/2012/12/off-duty-deputy-takes-movie-theater-gunman-down-with-one-bullet/
      and this one:
      http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/12/10000_oregonians_received_conc.html
      or this one which also got very little coverage in the MSM:
      http://godfatherpolitics.com/8635/armed-citizen-saves-cops-life/

      In that second one note that the shopping center has rules against concealed carry but it is NOT ILLEGAL.

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  4. powertothepeopleComment by powertothepeople
    December 27, 2012 @ 12:46 pm

    Spare me the melodramatic comments AWM…the cops are paid to put their rears on the line…they knew that when they signed up. The article does not ridicule them, it speaks to the inadequacies of government versus personal defense. Can you not read?

    Questions have to be asked…how long did it take them to respond? How long to enter the school? How much time was spent setting up a perimeter versus getting at the bad guy?

    These are things we need to know as well since you think its all about the cops.

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    • awmacronymComment by awmacronym
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

      Melodrama, where? Really trying to figure out that one. I just said people in law enforcement are brave souls for doing what they chose to do: putting their rears on the line which they knew was a risk when they signed up, as you patronizingly indicate. I do not do that every day, do you?

      And I really could do without the figurative slight to my literacy. Yes, rhetorically speaking I can read. The tone of the article is clearly a blanket statement condemning alleged government incompetence across the board, which indeed includes the peace officers. That is what I take issue with. That and simple human error. Yes, questions have to be asked as they were after September 11th as well. There will be much twenty twenty hindsight, along with could have should have would have, to be sure.

      However, articles like this manipulate these tragedies for political spin on blanket government incompetence, which includes peace officers and other good people. Furthermore, as I said before, peace officers on every campus, federal marshals on every plane and increased response time all cost more taxpayer dollars. Want to ante up your disposable income?

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    • crunchemComment by crunchem
      December 27, 2012 @ 10:25 pm

      awm you could always join the NRA and be a volunteer so as not to cost the taxpayer one dime. just sayin’

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  5. kenlunde1Comment by kenlunde1
    December 27, 2012 @ 12:57 pm

    Just finished a class at a local college. Did not realize that schools are gun free zones and carried mine through every class. Very happy that I did not need to use it. Had I the cops would have found the bad guy piched on his head and pumped full of lead.

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  6. awkingsleyComment by awkingsley
    December 27, 2012 @ 1:11 pm

    When China says the U.S. needs gun control, that is like an unchained maniac telling someone he wants to shoot at young school children, a very “soft target”. At the beginning of World War II, prior to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, a suggestion was made to invade the U.S.; General Yamamoto of Japan responded, “No, there is a gun behind every door in the U.S.” Keeping Semi-Automatic Assault rifles and magazine clips behind as many doors in the U.S. as possible is a strong deterrent. We do not need to present the U.S. as a “soft target” to every tough country out there in the world who would like to run over us, especially those countries to whom we owe a lot of money.

    All but one of the mass shootings was in a Gun Free Zone. Shooters look for soft targets and prefer to be unopposed. We can engage in a do-it-yourself program by arming teachers, or we can spend ourselves silly on Security Guards, and still not do an adequate job. Buses must be guarded: regular school buses – band buses – athlete buses – cheerleader buses – field trip buses. Entrances, exits, children approaching or leaving school, classrooms, and hallways must be guarded. Isn’t there a better solution than Security Guards?
    Israel has 4.7 murders per 100,000, and the U.S. has 5.9 murders per 100,000.
    http://www.nationmaster.com

    The Israelis are very cost-conscious, and arming teachers with assault rifles slung over their shoulders was an easy decision because every person in Israel must do military service. The Israeli people did not even want to pay for the military defense systems they have. Because not every person in the U.S. serves in the military, arming teachers and school bus drivers seems like an outrageous solution, but in order to adequately protect people, keep our freedoms, and prevent enormous costs to tax payers, arming teachers and school bus drivers is the most sensible solution. People in the U.S. must start taking personal responsibility. Why would Americans be foolish enough to pay for Security Guards for schools when Israelis do not? Are Israelis actually smarter than Americans? The truth is: Americans do not really want to admit we have a problem, and they will pay any amount of money to continue to live in fantasyland, while the Israelis are totally realistic. Israel had Gun Free Zones in the late 1970s, and they had to end them. (Terrorists started killing children and teachers on school buses.) Arming Israeli teachers was the only sane solution because casualties rose exponentially in Gun Free Zones. Thailand also has armed teachers for the same reason. Both countries rejected Gun Free Zones as a public hazard. Any time we leave anything up to the government, we get an inferior job for an enormous amount of money spent. We can keep building our Police State, or citizens can take responsibility. Which is it going to be?

    School model in Texas already has armed teachers.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/stop-school-shootings-by-letting-teachers-fire-back-say-texas-officials/

    Ann Coulter on Concealed Carry – the only deterrent that works in public settings. http://www.humanevents.com/2012/12/19/ann-coulter-we-know-how-to-stop-school-shootings/

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  7. chetrabnudComment by chetrabnud
    December 27, 2012 @ 1:15 pm

    The average response time of a 911 call in my area is 17 minutes. The average response time of a 357 magnum is 1,300 feet per second. Teachers and school administrators need to be allow to carry concealed at school or we are going to have to assign a police officer or two to every school.

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    • awmacronymComment by awmacronym
      December 27, 2012 @ 1:21 pm

      Yep, my point exactly. Apparently some of the responses to my blog get it. My thesis again: why must these tragedies be spun into political treatises on alleged blanket government incompetence?

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    • roadmarksComment by roadmarks
      December 27, 2012 @ 2:18 pm

      awmacronym it’s not a political treatise on alleged blanket government incompetence, it is a statement of fact that the government has never been able to, cannot now and will not in the future be able to take care of its citizens with anywhere near the capability that citizens can, IF THEY SO DESIRE, take care of themselves.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      December 27, 2012 @ 5:56 pm

      awm, because it sure looks like another coverup! Who’s to blame for that?

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  8. bigskycountryComment by bigskycountry
    December 27, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

    The Newtown killings were a planned event, so as to add to the “sense of urgency to disarm Americans”, as was the Colorado movie theater shooting, and so was Sept. 11, 2001… Read the article below.. We are living in truly “Perilous Times” as Scripture tells us………………………….

    The latest from “DHS Insider”

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=9e29cd9d37-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

      That kid would have taken out the armed security first. The Teacher that threw herself at him might have changed the outcome had she been armed. Supreme bravery was displayed by those Americans that day trying to protect the kids. They were all disarmed by politicians that have 24/7 armed secutity for themselves.

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  9. iowan52Comment by iowan52
    December 27, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

    Where is any one of us ever really safe? the very minute we set foot out side our homes we’re all targets and just takes being at the wrong place at the wrong time. You can be as prepared as you can be it teachers at schools, a teller at a bank even at your work place in your cubicle. The police cannot be every where to protect every one, as much as they want too it’s just not going to happen. This is why we need to have the right to carry a concealed weapon, however, we all have to be vigilant and aware at all times, and think about the situation, granted in some cases they is no real time to react or process what is unfolding. Sure I belive there needs to be metal detectors and an armed gurad at the school, but what about outside? suppose the kids are at recess on the play ground? or if they are on a school bus for that matter?. Is there going to be a new school dress code that children have to wear Kevlar (Bullet Proof Vests) to school now?, are we going to have the garment manufacturers start making clothing in Kevlar. Remember the Park Ranger that was guned down?. The issue of Mental Illness which has been discussed has been placed on the back burner far too long, as has everything else. How do you enforce a family member to tell a doctor or even a psychiatrist there child or other family memeber is unstable, and above all has the resources to pay for the treatments?. Sure perscribe medications, can they afford that too, so it just ends there and they go untreated. Mental Illness is just like talking about Illegal Immigration everyone walks the other way in hopes it all goes away, it’s not my problem, it needs to be everyones problem.

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  10. Bob KnowsComment by Bob Knows
    December 27, 2012 @ 1:57 pm

    The blue gun thugs job is to rob and control the people thorough brutality and fear to keep corrupt politicians in power. They DO NOT protect people. They have proved to SCOTUS that protecting people is NOT their job. Anyone who thinks that protecting the people is part of their job is sadly mistaken. That is not their job.

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  11. iklwaComment by iklwa
    December 27, 2012 @ 2:03 pm

    As is so often the case when trying to discuss a topic with liberals, because the English language is a “living breathing” thing in their minds, definitions become blurred and the meanings of words become ambiguous…as long as the lexicon works in favor of the liberal agenda.

    Case in point: Liberals and the rabid anti-firearms crew casually throw around the term “automatic weapon(s)”. Federal laws were passed regarding automatic weapons (firearms that continue to fire as long as the trigger is depressed) in 1934. Automatic weapons are currently illegal to possess in the United States unless you have been licensed by the federal government with a Class 3 FFL. Background checks and licensee fees were levied to “control” the public access to automatic weapons “to prevent crime”. Since that time, there have only been two (2) incidents of licensed automatic weapons used in the commission of a crime.

    Both of those crimes were committed by officers of the law.

    Many of the anti-gun zealots use the violence rate in England as reason to follow in their footsteps. England has always had a lower violence rate even when firearms restrictions were nonexistent. As their legislation has stiffened and stiffened against private ownership of firearms, their rate of gun violence has dramatically INCREASED. One only has to look at New York and Chicago to see how well legislation keeps firearms out of the hands of the criminal or mentally imbalanced element.

    In every one of these resent instances of brutality and evil the cowardly, terrorist actors are attacking the unprepared and the defenseless. Until we as a nation fully accept that we are ultimately responsible for our own protection, barbaric savages who have no respect for themselves, society at large or anyone else will continue to have the upper hand. If we continue to pursue an agenda removing a divinely inspired morality from the public forum and installing a twisted sense of social justice based on instant gratification, there is little surprise in the twisted, evil result we receive. We must insist on and expect a higher sense of ethics from ourselves, our leaders and our progeny.

    For the sake of clarity, it is illegal for a person under the age of 21 to possess or purchase a handgun and handgun violence among our youth is far more prevalent than the use of semiautomatic rifles.
    How much good is that law having?

    An “assault rifle” is, by definition a weapon that has been used by a government in war, that fires high power rifle cartage contained in a removable box magazine or that may be quickly reloaded by use of a stripper clip and has a selector switch as part of the mechanism. By choosing its position, the switch allows semi-automatic fire (one round discharged with each depression of the trigger), fully automatic fire (continuous firing as long as the trigger is depressed or until the ammunition supply is exhausted) or a “safe” position that will not allow the weapon’s discharge.

    The overwhelming number of firearms deaths in America are from illegally owned handguns.
    The “assault rifle” is just an easy target (no pun intended) for the anti-gun press and leftist activists.
    They “look scary”.
    If we were to base all of our decisions in life on looks…well, you know where that leads.

    The way the law stands today, it is virtually impossible to have an adult screened for mental illness in America unless he seeks help, gets into repeated trouble with the law or actually kills someone. Say “Thank you, ACLU”.
    Perhaps a review along those lines is in order before we begin legislating just for the sake of saying “we did something” ineffective as it will surely be.

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    • glenpComment by glenp
      December 27, 2012 @ 2:06 pm

      one thought —”economy of words” I don’t think ANYONE likes to read Russian novels in the threads. You make valid and sound arguments but it is too difficult to find them in your posts

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    • iklwaComment by iklwa
      December 27, 2012 @ 2:16 pm

      Americans seem to have an attention span that only allows focus on one subject for a limited period of time (i.e. five seconds).

      I apologize for attempting to force you into concentrating on more than one fact for more than a few seconds

      Sadly, sound bite solutions do this topic no good.

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      December 27, 2012 @ 6:18 pm

      I liked it, iklwa.

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    • edodanielComment by edodaniel
      December 28, 2012 @ 6:32 pm

      “Economy of words” is a good and valid criticism EXCEPT that often lengthier responses are necessary.

      Far too often ideas and solutions are lost because of brevity and non-solutions are imposed.

      “Ban all guns” is brevity while “Adhere to the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights which restricts government from infringing on the RIGHT of citizens to keep and bear arms and allow vetted school personnel to be armed in class if they desire in order to effectively protect their charges.” is definitely not brief lbut gets to the cruix of the issue.

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  12. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    December 27, 2012 @ 2:07 pm

    The only problem with this article is that it encourages MORE GOVERNMENT “SOLUTIONS”

    Author is correct

    WE SEE TIME AND AGAIN the citizens do the right thing and then the gov comes in “Takes over” and proclaims “victory”

    The Leftists cheer , THEIR PRESIDENT PROCLAIMS “you cant do things on your own” and on and on it goes

    IT WONT CHANGE

    Only if we elect FISCAL CONSERVATIVES

    NOT JOHN MCCAIN’S AND NOT EVEN RONALD REAGAN

    but A TRUE FISCAL CONSERVATIVE WILL WE EVER EVER even come close to a free from government powerhouse again

    ITS POSSIBLE

    NOT LIKELY

    BUT POSSIBLE

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  13. socialismisevilComment by socialismisevil
    December 27, 2012 @ 2:12 pm

    The gun debate is a “joke”

    If the Constitution didnt say it, the Leftists would be citing the Constitution as their backing on how the FFdidnt want weapons in the hands of the people

    We have had many pro gun POTUS

    which one of them ENFORCED THE SECOND AMENDMENT

    THEIR VERY JOB , SWORN TO UPHOLD

    THE LEFTISTS SCREAM ABOUT A “COMMA” ETC

    f them

    reagan?
    bush?
    IKE?

    where was the EXECUTIVE BRANCH IN ENFORCING THE CONSTITUTION !?

    THIS COUNTRY WAS STARTED BY RADICALS

    TAKEN OVER BY RADICALS AND

    WILL HAVE TO BE RECLAIMED BY RADICALS

    play all the “games” you want

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  14. shafawnComment by shafawn
    December 27, 2012 @ 2:29 pm

    Gun free somewhat like the Benghazi embassy?

    Are law abiding innocents the only ones not allowed to have guns?

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  15. kvetguy10Comment by kvetguy10
    December 27, 2012 @ 2:57 pm

    Please don’t mix your anger and the reality
    if 20 min is true it has nothing to do wiht Government but local authorities.
    Arming insiders is another dream of yours and won’t solve anyhting except making guns manufacturers and sellers richer not to mention you being so proud of shooting anybody and everybody around.
    N.A. has a probem of credibility on that subject versus the entire world but yes we know we are much better than anybody else…
    The artiocle is a waste of ideas.
    Go back and be honest for once

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    • shafawnComment by shafawn
      December 27, 2012 @ 4:47 pm

      Washington D.C. banned hand guns and has since increased the homicide rate 8x the national average. As long as there are guns anywhere on the earth.. they will be in the hands of criminals with or without laws. Criminals are by definition ..lawless. Gun control ONLY disarms law abiding citizens. What part of that can you not understand?

      Crack open a history book and look at the disarming of Germany in 1937, Ottoman Turkey 1911, Soviet Union 1929, China 1935, Guatemala 1960, Uganda 1970, Cambodia 1956. It didn’t work out so well for those countries.

      Take a look at world statistics and you will see for yourself that gun control does NOT make the population safer from homicide. The United States ranks 86 in homicides after many countries who have STRICT gun control policies.

      There is nothing more powerful than freedom in this world and it really does come with a great responsibility to guard it and hold in suspicion anyone who comes near that jewel.
      http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html
      http://www.krisannehall.com/index.php/blog/143-obamas-new-gun-ban-list-a-the-2nd-amendment
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

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    • spindizzyComment by spindizzy
      December 27, 2012 @ 6:35 pm

      “Shooting anybody and everybody around…” No, that’s just your simple minded assessment of what you think armed citizens want to do. I heard Michael Moron comment on this subject. He said the only reason people want to own guns is because they are afraid of the blacks and the browns, and they want to be able to shoot them all. Again, No, Mr. Moron, people want to own guns to protect themselves. Are you saying that all crime is being committed by blacks and browns? Why hasn’t the left-wing nuts taken him to the woodshed for that thought? And why do black people want guns? Hmmmm? And, once more for ya, no, I surely won’t be looking at skin color if an intruder needs blasting. I’ll know that soon enough, but it would have no bearing at all on my decision to shoot or not. You libturds are all alike. Be honest for once? You wouldn’t know it if it bit you. You are one of the liberal insane. Read shafawn’s answer to you again, slowly this time.

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  16. thedoveComment by thedove
    December 27, 2012 @ 3:43 pm

    Anyone, sane or insane, who would deliberately attack the most vulnerable of all, defenseless children, must be a coward almost by definition. Given his or her cowardice, it stands to reason the absence of any opposition would be one of the first things considered when choosing an area of attack. We provide everything such people need to commit these atrocities; defenseless targets in an area guaranteed to be safe for the shooter. Brilliant.

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 3:50 pm

      Well said ! These things always happen in Gun free Zones. I will never again comply with gun free zones that do not employ Court-House/Airport type of weapons screening.

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  17. beafrankComment by beafrank
    December 27, 2012 @ 5:45 pm

    The name of the game in combat shooting is rounds down range regardless of the caliber. Any of these shooters in public areas did not expect nor plan for rounds coming toward them. It is the reason they mostly just shoot themselves when they sense potential armed confrontation. Armed citizens in public places is the logical ounce, err, caliber of sense to violent crime prevention. Gun-free zones should be eliminated.

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  18. Haywood JablomieComment by Haywood Jablomie
    December 27, 2012 @ 6:05 pm

    ***”In September 2005, government — federal, state and local — completely failed the people of New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina flooded the city’s poorest section. Those who were willing and able to take care of themselves and their families were spared. Many of those who counted on government simply perished.”***

    Apparently even Mr. Patton was brainwashed by leftwing media anti-Bush propaganda and lie. The TRUTH is that the feds were rescuing people in New Orleans before the winds of Hurricane Katrina had even died down. The rescue effort was the fastest and the largest for any natural disaster in the nation’s history….despite being hamstrung by the Democrat governor of Louisiana. This massive rescue effort is why fatalities were not in the “tens of thousands” as the media predicted at the time.

    Patton’s point is still valid – that we need to protect OURSELVES and not be wards of The Government.

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  19. Jack ReacherComment by Jack Reacher
    December 27, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

    If I may add to your “microcosm”, Fox News was discussing the school shooting, semi-automatic weapons and the right to defend one’s home, family and or place of work.

    That pillar of stupidity, Juan Williams, who is just a tad bit above the **** level of Bob Beckel, stated that his solution instead of arming guards or employees that “they should just call the police”!

    Well I’d like to know where Juan William’s kids go to school and see how heavily armed it is. Better yet, how about sending that cretin back to PBS?

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  20. colt1911Comment by colt1911
    December 27, 2012 @ 6:46 pm

    The politicians that are leading the Anti-Gun charge really don’t care about anything but re-election. There might be a minute sliver of these clabber-heads that believe in this stupidity but the agenda comes down from the Socialist/One World Government people like George Soros. They buy the politicians and control them like puppets. . All the politicians want is re-election money and don’t know or care where it actually comes from. Most of them are clueless about the real plan. Disarm then Control. Texas and a few of our neighbors will be the tougher nuts to crack. COME AND TAKE IT !

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  21. melvyComment by melvy
    December 27, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

    An armed guard would at least deter a lone shooter until armed help arrives. There are plenty of retired Homeland people out there{Police, Fire,& E.M.S.}WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THIS. Also the Officers would more than likely have radio contact, knowing what they are up against. There should also be trained teachers, in weapon use. I believe there would be minimal injurys to zero as well. How many shooters would want to attempt shooting with the potential of being shot at, the reason why they go for innocents. We took God out of the schools but made no attempt to protect the children from evil. A gun controlled area is an invitation! I hope no one said something like this I’m in a hurry can’t read it all.

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 7:23 pm

      melvy Right on point. If you want to stop school shootings, take them off the list of gun free zones. It’s that simple. The cowards will select different targets. One of these days 30 people will die in a multi-story Hospital. Some Doctors and Nurses actually have to walk alone, unarmed to and from their cars in the middle of the night. It is absolutely nuts !

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  22. annie12Comment by annie12
    December 27, 2012 @ 8:20 pm

    It’s fine and dandy for all to pack 6 shooters. But can they hit what they are aiming at when someone is blasting away at them? Just what you need a school room full of kids with guns blazing!

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 8:37 pm

      annie 12,

      Training is always a good idea. I’m guessing the school room full of kids with guns won’t be on a coward’s list for the next mass shooting. I would rather see a school full of armed and trained teachers or students 21 and over.

      Is your comment meant in a serious way ?

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  23. jsc3716Comment by jsc3716
    December 27, 2012 @ 9:53 pm

    The Police are rarely at the seen of a crime on time. When there are it is either luck, or they’ve had forewarning of the event. The only thing that will stop an armed intruder, is someone else who’s armed. I am a retired Police Officer, I was a detective for many years and the truth is without someone at the scene of a school shooting who’s armed and willing to take action the police are just there to identifiy the bodies, and in the extremely rare instance when the shooting is still taking place, to take the bad guy down. Most Police chiefs and commissioners won’t admit this because they work for the politician and will say whatever the politician wants them to say. Just like that moron Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta saying after 9/11 that pilots shouldn’t be armed, they should be concentrating on flying the Plane. I’m sure they were concentrating on flying until their throats were cut!Talk to the guys who have to walk amoung the bodies and have to tell the parents or loved ones of the victim that their loved one is dead and they’ll tell you, you need to be able to protect yourself.

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    • colt1911Comment by colt1911
      December 27, 2012 @ 10:20 pm

      JSC3716 I wish more cops and retired cops like yourself would take the pulpit and tell it like it is.

      Thanks for being a Patriot and a stand up guy.

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  24. bizzybuzzerComment by bizzybuzzer
    December 27, 2012 @ 10:00 pm

    For many moons I have been trying to encourage school boards to train their teachers to use hand guns as a first line defense for our kids. Ever deal with a school board ? Facts keep showing up that it could work. I do believe that it would make these insane killers to think twice before doing their thang. The major problem is putting someone in charge that is not govermental nut jobs bent on screwing it up.

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  25. jaijacobiaComment by jaijacobia
    December 28, 2012 @ 12:30 am

    There is nothing we can do to change the horror of Sandy Point. We have to mourn and return to the things that can be changed to make a better world where such horrible thoughts no longer exist in the minds of individuals.

    First we need to eliminate the drugs that are causing what their makers refer to as suicidal and homicidal ‘ideation.’ It is those thoughts that lead individuals to become the inhuman killers who will lie, cheat and steal any weapons they need to complete their compulstion to ‘feel’ something, anything. The drugs cause such feelings of insignificance that the need for recognition becomes overwhelming to the point that they must commit more and more shocking murders to prove they exist. If it were possible to completely eliminate guns, they would make bombs and set fires and do whatever it took to prove their existence on the planet.

    And as we’re working toward preventing any such horror from ever again occuring, we must not forget those who died as a result of our own government’s action and inaction in Behghazi. Our leaders will attempt to distract us from that horror by using anything that might delay our investigation,. They know they’re guilty of potentially impeachable offenses and will do anything to delay the investigation until the passions die down. But there is no way to change the facts that we abandoned our people there and they died because our officials refused to act. Still we don’t know why, but someday we will and then we can punish those responsible. That’s still sometheng we can change.

    Meanwhile, we pray for those parents and others who loved the children murdered at Sandy point and also the mother who died. When we ring bells 26 times and pray only for 26, we forget her. Who knows how and in what horror she died? Though not as horrific as the thought of the lives of innocent children being taken, let’s not forget her as we pray for the 26.

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