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Aronoff: Will ‘Fast and Furious’ Topple Obama and Holder?

By Roger Aronoff

As much as the media have tried shielding the Obama administration from responsibility for corruption and malfeasance, the combined weight of the fallout from the Solyndra fiasco and the Operation Fast and Furious scandal have begun taking a serious toll on the administration. I will address Solyndra, the so called green energy company that received federal loans of more than a half a billion dollars, and then went bankrupt, in an upcoming report. That is starting to look like the tip of an iceberg of a political payoff scandal. But with subpoenas having been issued on October 13th in the Fast and Furious scandal to Attorney General Eric Holder and a total of 16 Justice Department officials, a variant of the famous Watergate question is being asked: “What did Eric Holder and President Obama know, and when did they know it?”

The usual truism is that many politicians make the mistake of not coming completely clean when allegations of wrongdoing surface. The cover-up, it is said, is often worse than the underlying crime or ethical violation. This has often been cited as the mistake made by people including Richard Nixon (Watergate break-in), Bill Clinton (Lewinsky, not to mention Filegate and Travelgate), John Edwards (love child and cheating on his cancer-stricken wife), and more recently, Anthony Weiner. There is a long list.

But in some cases, the crime, or lapse in judgment, is definitely worse than the cover-up. That appears to be the case in the simmering scandal engulfing the Obama administration that the mainstream media have tried their best to ignore for many months—the above mentioned Operation Fast and Furious.

In a recent column, I laid out the basic outline of the story, and how a very few in the mainstream media were finally getting interested in it. It involves the Obama Justice Department and was carried out by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF). It involves, among other things, at least 2,000 weapons, about 1,000 of which ended up in Mexico, and a Border Patrol Agent, Brian Terry, who was murdered with weapons found near the scene of the crime in Rio Rico, Arizona on December 14, 2010. Four suspects were arrested, who were linked to a Mexican drug smuggling operation. The weapons were among 57 linked to Fast and Furious which have been tied to at least 11 violent crimes in the U.S., including the Terry murder. The Justice Department, while largely stonewalling, has admitted this much to Congress, as reported by The Los Angeles Times. In addition, at least 200 people have been killed or wounded in Mexico with weapons linked to the operation. On February 15th of this year, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jaime Zapata was shot to death in Mexico, another apparent victim.

The Bush administration had introduced Project Gunrunner in 2005 in an effort to reduce drug and firearms trafficking and the associated violence on both sides of the border with Mexico. Operation Fast and Furious began in September of 2009 and continued into early this year. What is known is that the federal government purposefully allowed gun smugglers, some with criminal records, to purchase guns at federally licensed firearms dealers in Arizona. In some cases the guns were taken across the Mexican border with the knowledge of U.S. government officials and delivered to major Mexican drug cartels.

According to CNS News, “The reported purpose of the operation was to track and uncover the entirety of the smuggling operations so they could be completely shut down. However, two rifles sold to a smuggler in the course of Operation Fast and Furious in January 2010 ended up at the scene of the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.”

The Murder of Agent Brian Terry

The murder of Agent Terry apparently was the last straw for some. A number of agents were sickened by what they knew was going on. CNS News also put together a timeline of known events regarding Fast and Furious. In the timeline it talks about “a January 8, 2010 briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division Group VII” that says: ‘This investigation has currently identified more than 20 individual connected straw purchasers.’ It further says: ‘To date (September 2009 – present) this group has purchased in excess of 650 firearms (mainly AK-47 variants) for which they have paid cash totaling more than $350,000.’

“October 2009: The ATF’s Phoenix Field Division establishes a gun trafficking group called Group VII, which initially began using the strategy of ‘gunwalking,’ or allowing suspects to walk away with illegally purchased guns, according to a report by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the staff of Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“‘The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case,’ the report says. It goes on to say: ‘Group VII initially began using the new gunwalking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.’”

“Jan. 5, 2010: ATF agents met with Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona Emory Hurley, the lead prosecutor in the matter, according to the briefing paper. The briefing paper says: ‘a determination was made that there was minimal evidence at this time to support any type of prosecution; therefore, additional firearms purchases should be monitored and additional evidence continued to be gathered.’

“Further, US Attorney for the District of Arizona Dennis Burke was briefed on this day. [Burke had been Sec. of Homeland Security’ Janet Napolitano’s chief of staff] Burke “concurs with the assessment of his line prosecutors and fully supports the continuation of the investigation,” the briefing paper says. The paper goes on to say that then head of the ATF Phoenix Field Division, Special Agent in Charge William Newell, “has repeatedly met with the US A[ttorney] Burke regarding the on-going status of this investigation and both are in full agreement with the current investigative strategy.”

“Jan. 8, 2010: The aforementioned briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division sheds further light on the operation:

—The paper makes clear: ‘Currently our strategy is to allow the transfer of firearms to continue to take place, albeit at a much slower pace, in order to further the investigation and allow for the identification of additional co-conspirators who would continue to operate and illegally traffic firearms to Mexican DTOs [Drug Trafficking Organizations].’

—The ATF worked with the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) in Phoenix Ariz.

—The ultimate goal is to secure [REDACTED] to identify and prosecute all co-conspirators of the DTO to include the 20 individual straw purchasers, the facilitators of the distribution cell centered here in Phoenix, the transportation cells taking firearms South, and ultimately to develop and provide prosecutable information to our Mexican law enforcement counterparts for actions.”

CBS’s Sharyl Attkisson later revealed that “ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office Bill Newell—who led Fast and Furious—and then-White House National Security Staffer Kevin O’Reilly” were in close contact. “Emails indicate the two also spoke on the phone. Such detailed, direct communications between a local ATF manager in Phoenix and a White House national security staffer has raised interest among Congressional investigators looking into Fast and Furious. Newell has said he and O’Reilly are longtime friends.”

“The email exchanges span a little over a month last summer. [The emails were exchanged between late July and early September of 2010] They discuss ATF’s gun trafficking efforts along the border including the controversial Fast and Furious case, though not by name. The emails to and from O’Reilly indicate more than just a passing interest in the Phoenix office’s gun trafficking cases. They do not mention specific tactics such as ‘letting guns walk.’

“A lawyer for the White House wrote Congressional investigators: ‘none of the communications between ATF and the White House revealed the investigative law enforcement tactics at issue in your inquiry, let alone any decision to allow guns to ‘walk.’”

“Among the documents produced: an email in which ATF’s Newell sent the White House’s O’Reilly an ‘arrow chart reflecting the ultimate destination of firearms we intercepted and/or where the guns ended up.’ The chart shows arrows leading from Arizona to destinations all over Mexico.”

Attkisson reported in March 2011 on ATF agent John Dodson, a courageous whistleblower who had seen enough of letting these weapons move freely across the border. He had seen the consequences. You can see him tell part of his story to Attkisson in a March 2011 report on CBS.

In my article on Fast and Furious I credited some of those in the media who had been reporting on the story as information became known. They included Michelle Malkin, Andy McCarthy of National Review Online, Andrew Breitbart, Pajamas Media, American Thinker, WorldNetDaily, the Heritage Foundation. I then received several emails identifying others who had been the earliest to expose the details and the outline of this growing scandal. I heard from Dave Workman, Senior Editor of Gun Week, who wrote that the two men who uncovered the scandal last December were “National Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea and independent blog journalist Mike Vanderboegh at Sipsey Street Irregulars. They broke this story, nobody else.” Workman has also contributed to the development of the story. Others include Mike Whipple of USActionnews.com and Bob Owens writing in Pajamas Media.

Sharyl Attkisson Steps Up Again

Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News has stood out as the one reporter in the mainstream media to take on this story, without fear or favor. She has stood strong in the past, and we have noted that as well. More than a decade ago, Attkisson was virtually alone when she began, during the Clinton administration, reporting on lax security at America’s leading nuclear weapons facility, Los Alamos. She stayed on that story for more than five years, and in doing so provided a great service to this country. She is doing so again on this story, and is paying a price. Recently Attkisson went on the Laura Ingraham radio show and “The O’Reilly Factor” on Fox News to describe how she was yelled and screamed at by officials both at the White House and DOJ for her pursuit of this story. She said she was yelled at by Tracy Schmaler at Justice and screamed at by Eric Schultz at the White House. She said she was told that she’s the only reporter who is not being “reasonable.” It is an outrage and other journalists should express that outrage.

Fox News has been all over the story. Sean Hannity had a one-hour special back in July devoted to this emerging scandal. William Lajeunesse of Fox News has also done some excellent reporting on this. CNN eventually carried some good stories on Fast and Furious, by Anderson Cooper and John King. But in general, the mainstream media have ignored the story and have gone to great lengths to be sure that it doesn’t implicate President Obama, much less Eric Holder, for anything other than being out of the loop.

The story got much larger when it was revealed that the federal government apparently purchased weapons and sold them directly to criminals in Mexico. As Michael Walsh of the New York Post wrote, “the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives apparently ordered one of its own agents to purchase firearms with taxpayer money, and sell them directly to a Mexican drug cartel. Let that sink in: After months of pretending that ‘Fast and Furious’ was a botched surveillance operation of illegal gun-running spearheaded by the ATF and the US Attorney’s office in Phoenix, it turns out that the government itself was selling guns to the bad guys.”

This revelation, along with the possibility that Holder may have perjured himself, could prove to be the game changer, and force the Obama administration to turn this over to an independent counsel. In May, Holder appeared before Congress. When asked when he first heard about Fast and Furious, Holder responded, “I’m not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”

But recently released documents reveal that Holder received memos referring to the program in July, 2010. One such memo said, “Operation Fast and Furious” involved a “firearms trafficking ring.”

Holder later said that he had misunderstood the question.

Another key figure is Kenneth Melson, who was the Acting Director of ATF. Melson got a lawyer and voluntarily decided to meet with Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Government Oversight Committee, and Sen. Chuck Grassley, on July 4th of this year. He said he was told by Justice Department officials to not respond to such requests from Congress. But he did it anyway. The next month he was transferred out of ATF and brought into the DOJ as an “advisor.”

After being challenged by Issa for his answer, Holder fired off a letter to Congress claiming that he had never read the memos, and that it was the responsibility of his staff to brief him on what they considered important.

Holder then went on to say that the reason the ATF was unable to prevent the weapons from being sold to the cartels was a lack of gun control and registration.

Issa responded to Holder, saying that “the American people have a right to know more, knowing that these guns were deliberately intended to end up in the hands of the drug cartels without any kind of traceability, except if you find a gun in the scene of the crime. That is the reason that it is felony and stupid—and I use the word ‘felony’ deliberately—program.”

He wrote that “Mexico’s Attorney General Marisela Morales, who stated that more than 200 Mexican citizens have been killed with Fast and Furious weapons, referred to the Obama administration plot as ‘an attack on Mexicans’ security.’”

Issa let Holder have it:

“Mr. Attorney General, you have made numerous statements about Fast and Furious that have eventually been proven to be untrue. Your lack of trustworthiness while speaking about Fast and Furious has called into question your overall credibility as Attorney General. The time for deflecting blame and obstructing our investigation is over. The time has come for you to come clean to the American public about what you knew about Fast and Furious, when you knew it, and who is going to be held accountable for failing to shut down a program that has already had deadly consequences, and will likely cause more casualties for years to come.”

“Operation Fast and Furious was the Department’s most significant gun trafficking case. It related to two of your major initiatives—destroying the Mexican cartels and reducing gun violence on both sides of the border. On your watch, it went spectacularly wrong. Whether you realize yet or not, you own Fast and Furious. It is your responsibility.”

Also, a group of ten Arizona sheriffs (5 Republican, 5 Democrat) have called for a special counsel to investigate the gunwalking operations, as has House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith.

The outcome of this scandal will have huge repercussions for years to come.

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Roger Aronoff is the Editor of Accuracy in Media and can be contacted at roger.aronoff@aim.org

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  1. onewildmanComment by onewildman
    October 21, 2011 @ 8:49 am

     A liar will continue to lie even when caught. If you have ever known anyone who has been to jail, They will tell you they are innocent. They will never admit to any wrong doing. Holder is much like Obama in the sense that he feels he can do as he pleases and you have no right to question him.
     I am looking forward to Holder and others to be prosecuted here in the U.S. and then in Mexico. You have to ask when will the lamestream media start reporting the truth and the facts. They really have failed the American People and failed to uphold their journalistic integrity.
     
    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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    • linfComment by lin
      October 21, 2011 @ 6:23 pm

      rofl

      Oh, Wildman…  you’re so funny…  you used “jouralistic” and “integrity” in the same sentence and didn’t put “lack of” in between the two words…  you know, as in they upheld their “journalistic lack of integrity.” 

      As for looking forward to Holder and others being prosecuted, well, from your keyboard to God’s monitor!  :)

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    • montie364Comment by montie364
      October 23, 2011 @ 11:59 am

      Journalistic integrity ?  There has NOT been ANY from the alphabet 3 for 20 or more years. IF a reporter does find the truth they are driven OUT of the business and drowned out by denials.

      I have ONE question, why don’t the federal marshals do their job and arrest and hold these people until charges are made or dropped. Oh that’s right they don’t have to live by the same LAWS we do. 

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  2. newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
    October 21, 2011 @ 8:51 am

    I’m just grateful that something is being done about it, and that Issa is seriously taking command.  This administration has been involved in several scandals that the liberal media has kept under wraps and has reported little or nothing about.  It’s wonderful to be able to witness a politician that hasn’t been corrupted by political correctness and is displaying the intestinal fortitude to actually call these people out for their lying; conniving, and corruption of our judicial system. Eric Holder is not fit for the job, which is putting it mildly, and should be fired immediately.

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  3. DaveComment by Dave
    October 21, 2011 @ 10:06 am

    For the love of money and time, DO NOT ASSIGN A “SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.”

    This practice never works, allows the guilty to walk, and repeats history from Clinton. Keep this issue in the House of Representatives, demand justice, and impeach then convict in Federal Court. We cannot spend several years with this under investigation. Remember how long the Lewinsky investigation dragged on, how it led to more investigations, less answers, less justice, and more criminals escaping?

    This is a major issue, we provided weapons to terror organizations, drug cartels are terror organizations, and have killed Mexican and American Citizens. Holder and Obama MUST answer for the blood on their hands!

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    • MattNComment by MattN
      October 25, 2011 @ 10:44 am

      Of course Muslins don’t worry about blood on their hands when it is the blood of a infidel.

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  4. newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
    October 21, 2011 @ 10:28 am

    There’s no denying that Obama and Holder have blood on their hands and warrant the full extent of the law.  However, it’s wishful thinking to believe that they will receive anything for their crimes other than the usual slap on the wrist.  Holder might run the risk of being fired, however, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.  Insofar as Obama is concerned, it will be quite a shock if he suffers any repercussions at all.  Special investigators, although, not always successful, are in most cases mandatory before other procedures are permitted to move any further.  This is the only reason why I commended Issa for his candid approach.

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    • DaveComment by Dave
      October 21, 2011 @ 10:42 am

      Yes, “Special Investigators” have been written into law as a legal means to deal with criminal and felonious malfeasance. The problem is this, they are not necessary and can be overridden. In this criminal investigation, in the felonious investigation of Solyndra, and in the investigation of the Czars miscreant deeds, we need not more time wasted through “Special Investigators” but a full and complete transparent investigation by the House of Representatives. Yes, impeachment will need other legal hurdles and particpation by legal beagles, but, criminal proceedings can proceed and should proceed.

      If the politicians allow Obama, Biden, holder, and the various Czars to walk after commuting their crimes, we the American Peoplle will be held accountable before God and the rest of the world for failing to uphold the legacy and honor passed to us through history.

      We are a republic that requires the people’s approval to make laws, we are ultimately responsible for the actions of our elected representatives. It is PAST time to hold these people accountable for their crimes! No “Special Investigator” needed.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      October 21, 2011 @ 12:32 pm

      Well considering that we are unable to pass these laws ourself, and our voices are being muffled by the liberal press, I guess at this point we haven’t too much choice but to keep protesting regardless of the outcome.  Insofar as God is concerned, He does not hold anyone accountable who has not the authority, nor the ability to control something that is beyond their reach.  The mere fact that people try to do something is sufficient for God when He knows the insurmountable obstacles that prevent any possible achievement.

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    • DaveComment by Dave
      October 24, 2011 @ 12:13 am

      NewsJunky,

      We do have the authority, we do have control, and we are responsible for the actions of our freely elected politicians. This is a responsibility we cannot shirk, cannot dodge, and cannot roll off our shoulders, unless we hold the politicians accountable for their actions through due process of the law.

      Everyone in America should be ashamed when Maxine Waters opens her mouth or collects a paycheck. America cannot shirk the responsibility for the Kennedy’s actions as politicians. Every time a politicians is allowed to cheat, lie, steal, rape, molest, etc… and then escapes a Federal Pen, we the American people are solely responsible. Not just the state, county, city, municipality where that official came from.

      If we wake up to the responsibility we live under, EVERYONE in America would begin to demand justice and accountability for the sacred honor bestowed upon the elected officials. Until we wake up, we all live under the condemnation of electing bad apples to positions of power. We must hold the politician accountable, their staff accountable, and the special interest lawyers pushing money towards politicians accountable for the harm they do to our country.

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    • MattNComment by MattN
      October 25, 2011 @ 10:49 am

      The problem as I see it is that I only can control three people in Congress with my vote. California has more than fifty people in the house — most of them are from liberal areas. How can you change that if you can’t convince a liberal about what is wrong?

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  5. liberalfascistComment by liberalfascist
    October 21, 2011 @ 10:34 am

    Please raise your hand if you really believe Obama knew nothing about this. I want your hands raised so I know who to beat with a baseball bat, hopefully it will beat some sense into you.

    This whole thing was nothing but a way to institute gun control laws. You had some stupid ATF agents with Democrat politicians on TV with a crew served 30 cal machine gun, and select fire AK 47′s which you CAN NOT BUY IN YOUR LOCAL GUN STORE. You need a class 3 dealer and a 4 MONTH ATF BACKGROUND CHECK  to qualify to buy one of the very few machine guns for sale to the public and then they cost 15 to 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS. No drug dealer is going to pay that in an American gun store when they can buy them on the black market in Columbia for 75 bucks a piece for the AKs and about a grand for the crew served .30 cal
    . This was all one big lie. Obama knew because he stood with the Mexican President on the lawn of the White House complaining about American Guns being used in Mexico. Obama, Holder, Bloomberg, Feinstein, Reid, Pelosi all knew, all supported it because it fit their agenda  

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    • onewildmanComment by onewildman
      October 21, 2011 @ 11:42 am

      liberalfascist, back in 2009 I said something was wrong with the sudden spike in the percentage of guns being found in Mexico spiked. I look into the numbers and found they were selectively only identifying guns they could trace and omitted the number of guns that could not be traced. OK I pointed that out on GOPUSA at the time of the article. I thought they were just up to the same old trick of lying through statistics. Honestly I did not think they were this dumb. Boy was I wrong.
       as soon as this story broke I knew what they were doing. I knew this was there back door to abolishing our Second Amendment. It was quite easy to come to this conclusion because you never under any circumstance arm your enemy. Unless you had other plans than catching them. You don’t need to provide guns to any drug cartel to build a case against them.

       You are correct about how most gun are bought from international gun traffickers. Even though they provide the full auto version one of the people they caught here in the US was providing kits and instructions to convert AK47′s and AR15′s to full auto and he also provide parts to assemble 500 hand grenades.  

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

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  6. genesalComment by genesal
    October 21, 2011 @ 11:08 am

    If Obama didn’t know about F&F then he must not of known about Bin Laden & Gadhafi etc etc.  Why do Democrats always want it both ways?
    But nothing will bring Obaham down. He is Politically Sociopathically unstoppable. 2012 might not even bring him down if the GOP doesn’t get it’s shiza together and soon.

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  7. librabobComment by librabob
    October 21, 2011 @ 11:19 am

    I can’t help but wonder if the democrats still controlled congress under Nancy Pelosi’s leadership, would this travesty of justice even be the subject of an investigation. Given her lack of integrity, I seriously doubt it. I applaud the republican members of congress who are trying to get to the truth of who authorized this criminal act that has cost the lives of so many people, including a federal agent. I am sure that Obama is hoping this problem will just go away before the presidential election next year. It’s just a matter of time before he asks his friend Eric Holder to step down for the good of the party! Given the gravity of the crime, it’s simply not enough to just have the Attorney General or one of his subordinates resign from office. The American people demand to know who specifically authorized Fast & Furious, and why was it done.         

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    • DaveComment by Dave
      October 21, 2011 @ 11:44 am

      Great question. Another good one to ask, what occurred under Pelosi’s watch that was buried? Or, what is being buried in the Senate under Reid’s command that is causing problems?

      This is why the lack of trust in government is such an important number to watch. At the current abysmally low number, America is not being properly informed, since the MSM are complicit in the crimes being undertaken by those in power, justice is not being served and America as a whole suffers under condemnation.

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    • AMVoterComment by AMVoter
      October 21, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

      Obama will shield Holder as long as is humanly possible since Holder knows where all the “bodies are buried” and could take Obama down with him.

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    • Jerome from LaytonComment by Jerome from Layton
      October 21, 2011 @ 11:39 pm

      It may be too late. An email from BATFE to NSC has surfaced and the NSC person has already told Congress that those communications were not isolated instances. If you look at the Organization Chart of the Executive Branch, please note that NSC reports directly to POTUS. That’s close enough for most people.

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  8. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    October 21, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

    This may drive him out.  We can only hope, as for prosecution of Obozo, I wouldn’t bet on it.  Even if charged and found guilty the incoming Prez would pardon him.  If Nixon never went to jail, no other President will either.  Now Obozo may hang Holder out to dry for his part in it.  You know these people don’t care about Americans or Mexicans who died, look how hard they fight to make sure abortion continues.  A whole lot of blood on their hands and end is nowhere in sight.

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    • Jerome from LaytonComment by Jerome from Layton
      October 21, 2011 @ 11:32 pm

      It may remove him, but not before January 2013. That’s about 14 and a half months to go. In the meantime, our only shield is the House of Representatives and that all-mighty Power of the Purse.

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  9. bobnipComment by bobnip
    October 21, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

    Yes, giving guns to drug lords is horrible and cost the life of a border agent. But, how about the fact that our Poser-in-Chief has access to our national security secrets, our nuclear capabilities and anything else he wishes to share with the Red Chinese, Hugo Chavez, Putin or any other Marxist comrade of his choosing?

    He has surgically removed any military leaders that might pose an obstacle to his Marxist agenda to bring down this republic! 

    There will not be a 2012 election if Obama can help it. 

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  10. teapartyproudComment by teapartyproud
    October 21, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

    Obama will not be touched by this. He has the all powerful race card to shield him. Holder will only go down if necessary to keep Obama from taking any heat. Sickening.

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  11. BillzillaComment by Billzilla
    October 21, 2011 @ 4:34 pm

    If this had been done on George W. Bush’s watch, the “Main Stream Media” would’ve been calling for his head on a platter both day and night. But not Obama’s head. Oh no, he’s their boy and they’ve got his back!

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    • MutantoneComment by Mutantone
      October 21, 2011 @ 11:49 pm

      Bush’s program was ended when they discovered the problems with it Obama went ahead even knowing this set of problems and tripled the numbers of weapons let lose

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  12. vietnamvetComment by vietnamvet
    October 21, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

    Don’t forget that Hillary Clinton was in on the secret from day one, too … and SHE is the one pushing the U.N treaty for worldwide control of small arms.

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  13. Jerome from LaytonComment by Jerome from Layton
    October 21, 2011 @ 11:26 pm

    I’m turning on the “WAY BACK” machine. This “Fast & Furious” thing was probably set up prior to December 2009. I have a copy of Government Executive magazine dated December 2009 with a cover story titled Arms Race that claims “95% of the traces of weapons seized in Mexico lead to American gun stores.” The key word here is “traces” because a lot of the weapons were obviously not of US origin or came from Mexican armories. The point is that this article was fed to the reporter by the US Government to influence opinion in favor of gun control.

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  14. MutantoneComment by Mutantone
    October 21, 2011 @ 11:31 pm

    “mainstream media have tried their best to ignore for many months—the above mentioned Operation Fast and Furious.” This is just the distraction from the real crime of arming gangs inside the United States as long as they can keep the focus on the Mexican gun running they feel safe but it needs to be investigated for all aspects of their gun running program not just “Fast and Furious”

    Rahm Emanuel reports that he knew about the operations while he was at the White House. Not only high caliber weapons but conversion kits to make semiautomatic weapons full auto, and explosives as well and the makings for grenades and an uncounted number of rocket launchers.
    Operation Gunrunner–in which the government authorized the sale of weapons with the intent of letting these weapons fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, which were used to Kill an American border agent.

    Operation Castaway–in which the government authorized the sale of weapons knowing they would fall into the hands of Honduran gangs, such as MS13 and the Mara Salvatrucha and the rival Mara 18, An estimated 20,590 people died violently here in the last five years, according to the Madrid-based nonprofit Observers of Violence in massive shoot outs to control the drug industry.

    Project Gangwalker the ATF and the DOF allowed the straw purchases of weapons which eventually ended up in the hands of United States gang members in Indiana” Operation Community Shield,” individuals are from El Salvador, three are from Mexico, one is from Honduras and one is from Haiti. ICE said the individuals are members or associates of the following street gangs: MS-13, Sur-13, and Zoe Pound.  Charged in connection with the shooting of an Indianapolis police officer last week are gang members, the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office Gonzalez-Ramirez is a member of the Puros Vatos Locos street gang, and Taboada-Perez is a member of the SCT-13 gang. Both have tattoos that express allegiance to those gangs, authorities said. and other weapons have been found at crime scenes in that state and surely have spread out from there to other gangs.
    Now picture gang bangers in armed flash mobs, And just where did that army that Obama formed disappear to?

    Add to that a state governor that thinks there should be no elections for two years until the congress can fix the problems they are facing. And Obama does not think that Americans understand democracy as well as he does.
    It all leads to the UN small arms treaty that Hillary signed off on all to disarm the American populace.
    And the round about EPA ammunition suspensions under the lead ban that stops the supplies of ammunition getting to the people with out congressional oversight.
    And all these are now excuses to suspend the second amendment rights of the citizens. As well as the up coming elections for civil unrest.
    It all sounds treasonous to me
     
     

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  15. trumper2Comment by trumper2
    October 22, 2011 @ 8:44 am

    And just where did all the money from the sale of these weapons go?  Follow the money and you can usually find the instigator.
    If these actions aren’t treasonous, then what is?

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  16. MutantoneComment by Mutantone
    October 22, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

    They used stimulus funds to run the program, initially buy the weapons and explosives etc. so it did not cost them anything so what they sold was pure profit that would be the interesting trail to follow 

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