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Patton: San Francisco Lesbians Guilty of Criminal Child Abuse

By Doug Patton

All who continue to deny the dire warnings concerning the freak show that awaits our culture at the bottom of the slippery slope called "gay rights" need only contemplate the story of 11-year-old Thomas Lobel.

Thomas is being raised in San Francisco (of course) by two lesbians, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, who claim they were "married" by a rabbi in some sort of ceremony back in 1990. They adopted Thomas when he was two years old.

Because he has a speech impediment, Thomas learned sign language at an early age. According to his two "mothers," he told them in sign language — at age three, mind you — that he was a girl. On the strength of that assertion — from a three-year-old! — Moreno and Lobel made a gigantic leap and assumed it must be true. Thomas, they concluded, must be what is euphemistically referred to these days as "transgendered." You know, transgendered, like "Chaz" Bono, Sonny and Cher's little girl-turned-lesbian-turned-boy-turned-who-knows-what-next.

So, this troubled little boy, Thomas Lobel (whom the only parents he has ever known now call "Tammy"), confused and withdrawn because of his handicap, was brainwashed into believing something he couldn't possibly understand yet.

Four years ago, when Thomas was seven, psychiatrists "diagnosed" him with "gender identity disorder." By age eight, with ongoing encouragement from his two lesbian parents, he was supposedly "transitioning," whatever that means.

But this story gets worse. Much, much worse.

This summer, aided and abetted by a medical establishment that no longer has any moral or cultural moorings, these two deviants started the hideous process of "gender reassignment" on poor Thomas, now eleven, in order to suppress the onset of his male puberty and physically turn him into a girl! This "therapy" includes a hormone-suppressant, which is implanted in his upper left arm to prevent him from developing naturally into the boy God intended him to be. It will suppress the growth of facial hair, the natural deepening of his voice and the broadening of his shoulders.

Thomas will remain a pre-pubescent boy until he and his "mothers" decide whether he should transition to an adult female. In order to do that, he will have to take female hormones, which will raise his voice, allow him to grow breasts and develop other feminine physical characteristics. Lastly, of course, is the decision to have sex-change surgery.

San Francisco is one of only four cities in the United States with a hospital that has a program for "transgender children." The others are Boston, Seattle and Los Angeles. The University of California San Francisco is home to the Center of Excellence for Transgender Health.

Such an innocuous sounding name.

There is virtually no chance that this poor, bewildered boy will "decide" to do anything other than to allow himself to be manipulated and mutilated by these domineering women in his life. They, along with the so-called doctors who condone and facilitate this perversion, should be prosecuted for child abuse.

What will these two decide to convince their son to become next? A dog? A cat? A fencepost? A lesbian? What was wrong with him being a boy? That's how he was born. That's what he was supposed to be.

"Everybody was angry with us," Moreno says. "They all said, 'How could you be doing this? You might be ruining his whole life!'" She says she and her partner have faced intense criticism from both friends and family.

What they should be facing is a judge and jury. Instead, we have criminal child abuse being validated by our psychiatric community and our legal system. It may not be popular to say so, but this is the stagnant social cesspool that results from embracing deviancy. In the blink of an eye we have gone from unthinkable to the new normal.

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Doug Patton describes himself as a recovering political speechwriter who agrees with himself much more often than not. Now working as a freelance writer, his weekly columns of sage political analysis are published the world over by legions of discerning bloggers, courageous webmasters and open-minded newspaper editors. Astute supporters and inane detractors alike are encouraged to e-mail him with their pithy comments at dougpatton@cox.net.

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  1. BethanyComment by Bethany
    October 4, 2011 @ 7:40 am

    That is so very sad.  The poor child has little chance of leading a normal life unless someone intervenes.  Perhaps it is already too late, even if he were taken away from them today – and no one is even considering that.  While I have no use for any type of sex change therapy/surgery, it should be illegal for a minor to be put through such procedures.  It is indeed child abuse.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      October 4, 2011 @ 9:25 am

       
      This is what happens when the Liberal distorted ideology of the Self-God is allowed to run amok among mankind and allowed a place of legitimacy in society, all in the name of political correctness, but most often is just political expediency to grabs votes. When you go against the laws of nature, nature culls you out which is what it is doing to American Society as we speak.
       
      Americans must begin to understand the difference between the acceptance of the freaks of nature and the approval of the freaks and mistakes of nature. When you put mistakes on equal footing with success, the behavior of a confused society will always default to the lowest common denominator. Just look about you or visit San Francisco and you will understand of what I speak. Ahhhh ,,,,San Francisco, the only place on earth where that waiting line to the men’s room exceeds that of the ladies.
       

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    • wonderwarthogComment by wonderwarthog
      October 5, 2011 @ 6:45 pm

      Yikes.  I do believe that’s the sickest thing I’ve ever been aware of.  IDEA!  Let’s transgender everybody in San Francisco.  Men to women, women to men, and see what happens.  I’ll bet there’d be some changes made then.

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  2. jenerseaComment by jenersea
    October 4, 2011 @ 8:11 am

    As in the days of Noah so shall it also be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man. The freak show will be unleashed upon us all.

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  3. newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
    October 4, 2011 @ 8:21 am

    “What they should be facing is a judge and jury,”…

    This story is not only sad, but it is criminal in my opinion and these two misfit “mothers” should be facing a judge and jury.  Unfortunately, it seems as though almost everyone has gone over the edge in this mad world we live in — especially those in authority!  This particular case is one of the most horrible.

    My first thought after reading this is why didn’t these two just adopt a girl instead of putting the poor boy through this nightmare!  Could it be that they deliberately adopted a boy with the intentions of changing his gender and confusing the kid to a point where he didn’t even know what sex he was!  These two are obviously sick people in more ways than just one, and should be given a psychiatrict evaluation — as it appears that they did not even consider what they’ve done to be wrong.  I agree with your opinion that this is the end result of “embracing deviancy.”

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  4. TellitlikeitisComment by Tellitlikeitis
    October 4, 2011 @ 8:39 am

    Thank you sir for telling it like it is.
    Amazing how mentally ill these sexual perverts really are.  Two women whose hatred for men is so intense they adopt a boy and refuse to let him grow into a man.
    They should have received “treatment” themselves for mental instability (read: gender confusion) but moral and intellectual honesty left the mental health clinics long before it departed from the medical profession.

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    • Transaction7Comment by Transaction7
      October 13, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

       
      I must respectfully protest your group libel against us mentally ill people.  
      We were turned down flat as foster or adoptive parents because we have both been and are in ongoing treatment for clinical depression, which affects a large part of the population including 41% of law students, and because I can’t see well enough to drive.   My wife was a public school speech therapist and I was a lawyer with an awful lot of incestuously molested and otherwise hideously abused, and often suicidal, children and adult survivors of such horror.  
      Most mentally ill people are not dangerous, contrary to stereotypes.   This pair, and any professionals who participated in their adoption of this boy and this hideous process, may or may not be able to distinguish right and wrong, the legal definition of insanity, and may or may not have any, or anything the American Psychiatric Association recognizes, as mental illness, but their conduct constitutes criminal child abuse and anyone who knew about and didn’t  report it, much less those who participated, are guilty of a crime or crimes.  
      As one poster noted “As in the days of Noah . . .”   I thought Billy Graham might be a little over the top when he said, years ago, that if God didn’t judge America he would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, until I discovered, in group therapy for suicidal depression, and in my law practice, etc., that biological parents, from “good” educated and influential families, molested their little children, and the devastating long-term consequences.   I’ve represented hundreds of such abused children, many after they had attempted suicide at young pre-school ages or older, and some of whom were natural-born or adopted members of the immediate and near extended families of elected and high appointed officials palmed off on us by both political parties. 
      The overwhelming majority of the molestation I have dealt with has been “heterosexual.”    Experts from whom I have taken courses after very unexpectedly finding myself drowning in this field tell me most child abuse is a crime of opportunity and power rather than sex and any target will do if the preferred sex is unavailable.   I know one child who I have determined is being well raised by the homosexual father who got custody from the ex-wife, which has to tell you something about her but who I never met.   I was alone with the girl, four, at a park, frankly looking for any signs of abuse or neglect, when, as it got dark, two other, unattended, little girls met us, asked me to lift one down from a piece of playground equipment, and then to hold her.  Their parents were over a mile away and they were planning to walk home after dark.   I was appointed to represent one, with a Master’s Degree in Elementary Education, etc., who, with her M.B.A. and lawyer husband, bought and  one or both severely abused an infant.  We never could figure out why they had bought or abused him.  
      I have known biological parents who had wanted some other child, by gender or otherwise, than the one they got genetically, and were never satisfied.   The mother of one I knew well is indefinitely hospitalized after fortunately being stopped when she tried to perform sex surgery on her.   
      I have known and read experts, good in other matters I know more about, and who I have concluded appear to be honest and rational, who are convinced that homosexuality is inborn and immutable, and other such experts who are convinced that it can be changed, whether they think the tendency is caused by organic or environmental factors, but that the person would really have to want to change.    Child sexual abusers are extremely hard to change even if motivated, but some others and I think, of several we have known, that we have known one who repented and reformed and is no longer dangerous.  
      St. Paul documented, in his public Letter to the Corinthians, that the church there had an active and successful ministry to homosexuals, and that many there had been enabled to reform.   He did not cover the question whether they became heterosexual, married, and faithful, or whether they only ceased to be actively homosexual and became celibate.   This is part of the canonical scripture of all Christian churches, generally accepted as divinely inspired and true.   If it is a lie, or if it has recently been discovered to have been flat wrong all along, either of these would shake two thousand years of the foundation of Christianity.    On the other hand, none of the many churches I know have ever had, or even claimed to have, such a ministry, much less such a successful ministry, to persons of any manner of homosexual orientation.   Of course, we heterosexuals should remember that “all have sinned . . . “ that “he who has looked at a . . [person] lustfully has committed adultery . . . ,” and that “If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”   
      Nobody with any brains or knowledge thinks a three year old child could know, or has sufficient mental development that they could or should make any such decision, which is why they are not held responsible for their actions.     I have dealt professionally, and with other professionals dealing, with children too young to qualify legally as juvenile delinquents who had somehow, somewhere, learned, and committed, sexual crimes that all the evidence indicates they could not have thought up and had to have experienced or seen first.     
      I am somewhat of an expert on suicide, and on child abuse, and am thus firmly convinced, as are some degreed and published experts, that children as young as four or five do make decisions concerning whether or not they would commit suicide if their situations got bad enough, and then act on that as pre-school children, teens, etc., or adults.    This can be changed but this requires substantial expert help.  
      I was drugged, thrown into a state snake pit for months [a client shooting at Brownie Scouts thinking they were Bigfoot coming to rape him was only kept for ten days], and suspended from practice in my absence because I discovered, and questioned the mother privately about, evidence of the incestuous sexual abuse of a client by prominent and powerful personage, and that this had been known before I came here.   It’s an incredible story I didn’t think could happen in America and had a hard time believing when I heard it in detail from someone present when this was planned, but the evidence is convincing. 
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       

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  5. moparfan54Comment by Dave
    October 4, 2011 @ 8:49 am

    I live in Texas and I know about it, where is CPS in San Francisco? Why aren’t they doing something to protect this child from these two pedifiles??

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    • tejanojackComment by tejanojack
      October 4, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

      CA CPS is probably all gay.  Regardless of what one believes about homosexuality, intervening and altering a childs sexual developement and identity has got to be a crime somewhere. 

      Many of you have heard me defend the constitutional civil rights (NOT including marriage) of gays, but this goes beyond any threshhold of reason.  In deed, religious questions notwithstanding, I have always questioned the wisdom of allowing gay couples to adopt.  My question has always been, if heterosexuality is the predominate behavior of mankind, why would it be logical to place a child in a family situation which is outside the societal and statistical norm?  It’s defies reason.

      Furthermore, no parent, gay or strait, should be allowed to subject their child to very questionable hormone therapy, which legitimate psychiatrists approve on adult patiens only after intense long-term counseling.  This offense against all that is sacred, is compounded by the fact that puberty is a critical and dynamic period in a child’s physcal and emotional developement which can be fraught with numerous frailties and vulnerabilities. 

      Pray for this child and those like him.   T.J.

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  6. GHUComment by GHU
    October 4, 2011 @ 9:04 am

    The BEST chance for any child is in a traditional family. EVERY adoptive or foster care child should be placed in a traditional mother/father married family. Period!

    When they are placed in a 2 men or 2 women household they are being mentally, morally and sometimes physically abused. This poor little boy is a terrible example of this very SICK society in which we live. 

    Soon, no longer will anyone be able to voice disagreement with the radical gay agenda.  As an example…the Catholic Charities organizations are being forced to shut down adoption/ foster care services around the country…like in Boston, MA, Knoxville, TN, Washington, DC, Illinois because of Obama & the Democrat/ Progressive radical gay agenda. See:  http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=41680&page=1

    That is why the 2012 election is so very important. We need a President/ Congress that is BOTH Morally & Fiscally Conservative or we can kiss the USA (as we knew it) goodbye!

     

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    • dachshund00Comment by dachshund00
      July 5, 2012 @ 11:43 pm

      What about the kids who get abused in traditional families? Are you really that naive to think children never get abused by traditional families?

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  7. lwessonComment by lwesson
    October 4, 2011 @ 9:05 am

    The fallacy is that such mental illness just wants to be left alone.  Not true.  They want nothing more than dominance, either with those close by, like this poor child, or society!  Think about it.  Actually, THEY do NOT want you to, “think about it.”
     
    The so called President, has now waved his well tired magic arm and has transformed our Military, our fighting forces and that is just a start for CHANGE that will land you in the Brig if you disagree.  Transgendered, gay, man-boy, bestiality, really there seems to be an opened ended horizon thanks to Obama our all knowing Overlord.
     
    But wait, there is more, if you order now… .  THEY, want dominance after all.  Using the strong arm of Das Stat,  Religious intolerance will NOT be, ah, tolerated.  Talk of “diversity!”   Fines and prison camps are waiting. 
     
    And your kiddies in the fine expensive cesspool of Public Education?   ( I was once there, not only as a student but as a teacher )  NO tolerance for hate from your child you hater!  “Take the child!” 
     
    Once a group gets on that,  special little bus   and can define what HATE is, well well, game over.  We The Sheeple, have been taught to cringe and OBEY when the word HATE is thrown at us and somehow respect and bow to those on the short bus.  Not only that, these groups are organized to destroy, terrorize those who stand in their way.  Charming.  And all they want is to be left alone, like Islam.  Humm, now these two groups just have to get together for a partay!
     
    The problem Doug Patton is that you can point this blatantly criminal example out, as The Media will not but the purveyors of this, ah, “transformation of America” will take their mental illness and argue their insanity as sanity, that the current society just does not understand, has not progressed enough, yet.  There is NO winning an argument with the crazed man under the bridge,  or woman, or whatever it says it is!  Sadly THEY are now well OUT from under the bridge.  Bridges everywhere are lonely.  Now that is indeed sad.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      October 4, 2011 @ 10:04 am

       
      This is that wonder bridge to the 20th Century that Clinton and Gore promised us but like the story of the 3 Billy Goats Gruff, we are told to cross their bride where the grass is sweet, only to be molested by the Liberal Trolls who live under the Bride and give you plenty of warts and turn you into the very freaks that they are so they will not feel so bad by comparison.
       

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    • FreeDameComment by freedame
      October 5, 2011 @ 10:18 am

      I no longer back down when called a “hater,” just like I no longer back down when called a “racist.”  They have over-played their hand.  I’m starting to wear the names like a badge of honor.

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    • lwessonComment by lwesson
      October 5, 2011 @ 11:14 am

      The same.  Well done freedame.  Unfortunately so much of the Establishment has been so well “brought up”, tamed, caged, that they are terrified to be called a hater or racist by these most unworthy destroyers.  You see it all of the time.  Part of the design for our elimination is to get us to eliminate ourselves mentally. 
       
      In Public School,  they get one group to feel ashamed of themselves, their people, their history, their accomplishments…  and another they feed trumped up, made up history to feel good or conversely, to feel oppressed, angry, the victim…  and this is reinforced when actual daily transgressions that deserve punishment go unnoticed, ignored or treated most unequal in punishment.  To go against this pattern as I did meant that I was not a Team Player… .  Nice to have gotten out.  But on a national backdrop, not in just the schools, this is played out every day.
       
      Oh, and of course and it popped up here, if you are not on the correct team, you are stupid, not Christian… and not expert enough to understand… .  Sad times indeed.

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  8. DaveComment by Dave
    October 4, 2011 @ 9:07 am

    How incredibly sad!

    God help us all!

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  9. TexannaComment by Texanna
    October 4, 2011 @ 9:14 am

    This is particularly frightening to me because I have a grandson who is in the same situation.  At one time, I thought my daughter might have some sense, but now I live in terror of what her partner (who is bipolar) may come up with.  I thought her adopting the baby was the worse that could happen.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      October 4, 2011 @ 10:16 am

      So sorry!  God be with you!

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    • godnaitComment by godnait
      October 6, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

      If the partner has Bi-Polar syndrome; there are new medications to control that, but not everyone with Bi-Polar syndrome wants to change their child’s gender. That would have to be a joint decision between your Daughter and her mate, unless your daughter’s mate is a physical abuser. Then her and the child are not safe and child protective services should be called. The number is 1-800-4ACHILD, you will not have to give your name or any other personal information to report the abuse.

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  10. tcan753Comment by tcan753
    October 4, 2011 @ 9:57 am

    The Federal Judges that legalized perversion in the first place ought to be facing captial punishment for opening the pandora’s box of evil that has been released on our society.  Where was congress? They could have nullified that ruling if they had even a vague sense of social responsibility and morals.  It’s only going to get worse unless perversion itself is outlawed.  Otherwise the law is on the side of all this evil.

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  11. jennpdxComment by jennpdx
    October 4, 2011 @ 10:13 am

    From Mr. Patton’s post and continuing on to the comments that followed, the lack of accurate information, medical facts, knowledge of the scope of screening that both the parents and the child had to go through and basic human kindness is astounding, dismaying and yes, frightening.
    I work for an organization that provides support, advocacy and education for families and children/youth like Tammy. To hear some of you ‘good Christians’ refer to this child as a “freak” is both disappointing and disturbing.
    You pass judgement while coming from a place of ignorance about this issue. You declare that medical and mental health professionals are committing some professional and moral outrage without knowing anything about the guidelines, ethics and steps taken to confirm what is in the best interests of the child. You make the (incorrect) assumptions that all lesbians hate men, therefore, they must have planned to adopt a male-bodied child and turn ‘him’ into a girl. You give disproportionate weight and validity to cultural stereotypes and misinformation about sexual orientation and gender identity while simultaneously disregarding the professional opinions and care provided by professionals (many of whom are Christian) who have spent DECADES studying this.
    This care is being provided to children and youth in MANY more locations than simply the four cities you listed. Individual pediatricians and pediatric endocrinologists are following well-established guidelines in offering this medical care (when appropriate, with the youth’s full consent and with the recommendation of experienced counselors and therapists). Our organization, located in the western USA (not in a city you mentioned) provides a range of services to these families, including referral for medical care.
    Please, at least, turn your hate and intolerance based in ignorance regarding this issue into something less damaging to these children and youth. Educate yourselves about this issue from someone OTHER than Doug Patton, Keith Ablow, NARTH or Focus on The Family. If you come to the conclusion this is something you disagree with, then do so in a way that does not label these kids as “freaks” or the parents who love them as “deviants”. And to the grandmother who is completely opposed to allowing your grandchild to receive supportive and affirming care with regard to their gender identity or gender expression, you need to know that 83% of kids who DO NOT receive support and affirmation consider committing suicide… and 32% attempt suicide… primarily due to it being too painful to live in a world (that may include their parents) filled with the kind of hate and intolerance expressed here.
    Those are REAL statistics, from REAL extensive studies and years of research.
    Jenn

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    • Comment by LuLu
      October 4, 2011 @ 10:36 am

      Your organization should be illegal and you should be in prison.
       
      Children should not be subjected to deviant behavior, much less gender altering surgery under any conditions. That kind of decision should not be made for a child. Instead it is a decision that only an adult should make for themselves.
       
      Cut off your own penis, or sew one on, but leave the children alone.

      One more thing, this is the best argument for open adoption that I’ve ever heard. If you know a young woman who is considering giving her child up for adoption, make sure she meets and learns about the people who will adopt her child, in order to be sure her child doesn’t fall into the hands of freaks.
       

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    • americaisintroubleComment by americaisintrouble
      October 4, 2011 @ 10:54 am

      Your mind has been blinded by the god of this world, which is Satan.
      Just like Eve in the Garden of Eden so have you taken the bait.
      Here is your idenity…Whatever sex you are when you are born that is what gender you are!
      God has made no mistake!
      The mistake is in man in what they believe and who they gave their life to.
      You either serve God or Satan. You do not have your own life.
      Christ has bought you with a price but if you choose  not to listen to Christ then you chose Satan.
      BOTTOM LINE!        

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    • NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
      October 4, 2011 @ 11:33 am

      Jenn, nobody is calling the child a freak. The child is a victim of two mentally ill people who, instead of protecting and loving the child for who he is, are deliberately and maliciously turning him into something he is not.

      Changing a boy’s name at 3 and giving him hormone suppressants at eleven is absolutely unconscionable. My 3 year old son sometimes puts on girl’s clothes. That’s what they do at that age, they are playing to understand gender roles. That doesn’t mean I should start calling him a girl’s name and begin trying to convince him he’s a girl!

      Poor Thomas will never know who he truly is, and we all pity him. Most of us believe he should never have been put in that situation in the first place.

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    • jennpdxComment by jennpdx
      October 4, 2011 @ 11:42 am

      And that is precisely my point. You do not understand the difference between “putting on girls/boys clothes” and a child repeatedly affirming that they are either a “boy” or a “girl”. There is a HUGE difference between the two… and your attempts, based on partial information, to over simplify these subtleties and complexities is where the damage occurs. These are not ‘simple’ issues. Furthermore, I agree with those who say “God does not make mistakes”. I agree… these children a born exactly the way they are supposed to be. Being transgender is a natural variation in human development… the DAMAGE comes from those who assume they know what ‘God’ intended, rather than from those who help these children overcome the ignorance and and disregard for the amazing and inspiring variety and diversity that exists in nature.

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    • cxComment by genesal
      October 4, 2011 @ 12:11 pm

      And that is why your types pdx stick together.  To reenforce each other and bask in the perversion.  Out in the real world you guys don’t stand a chance no matter how educated you think you are.  Nothing to stand on, no empirical evidence, only theory and pseudo science and experimentation (yes the kind the Nazi’s did). 
      The life style is like playing on the freeway and then questioning why one is constantly being run over.  Mental health is theory, theory, theory and more theory.  Experiment on yourselves if you must, but leave the innocent children alone!

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    • americaisintroubleComment by americaisintrouble
      October 4, 2011 @ 1:04 pm

      Interesting that the statistics Jenn used are general and never tells the source. I read an article from the AMA that everyone who they polled, 100% of them, said at least once in their lives they have thought of suicide. Why? Because of the spiritual opposition. He comes to steal, and kill, and destroy. I can throw statistics out there also and they can be unfounded. So be honest about what is said and don’t munipulate so called information, just like these alternative lifestyle folks. That just means those who go against morally right standards, which man has no right to set. They have been set long time ago and we are to follow them so we will get the right results from generation to generation.

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    • newsjunkyComment by newsjunky
      October 4, 2011 @ 1:17 pm

      Jennpdx:

      God does indeed NOT make mistakes, however, it wasn’t God who created homosexuals, period.  People are not born that way they become that way because of enviornment, such as the case in question.  There is no “gene” that predetermines homosexuality regardless of what some “anything goes” progressives in the medical field have determined.  Albeit, a man can be too effeminate for his gender, however, that can be easily corrected with hormones as was the case with Tommy/Tammy being administered “female” hormones, altering his appearance.  A male adult that too closely favors the femine side can be helped IF they CHOOSE to — however, many embrace their abnormality with defiance and the excuse of insisting they were born that way with the help of people like yourself.  I suspect considering your commentary that you’re either a lesbian and/or deeply entrenched in progressive ideologies and the humanistic religion of tolerance.

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    • americaisintroubleComment by americaisintrouble
      October 4, 2011 @ 1:24 pm

      Jenn if you believed in the Living God in heaven and Jesus Christ there would be no discussion right now about God what a mistake is. You twist the word of God to fit your agenda and this is called perverting the Bible but…SURPRISE! I wonder what else you pervert???!

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      October 4, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

      The only thing that separates man from the beast is his free will. By Gays claiming they were just born that way then by their own admission they are beasts who ave chosen to live in their beastiality. They are two dimensional beings who live in their bodies and their minds and ignore or murder their spirit and their own conscience which would whisper them not to worship only the pleasures of the body ignoring the higher pleasures of the spirit.

      Those Frankenstein Doctors who think they know better than the creator how to design a human being, then butcher with their scalpels the only chance to become that which these children were designed for is a criminal act worthy of punishment. You Liberals never cease trying to play God with other peoples equipment and gifts. There is a warm spot in hell awaiting you. Say Hi to Dr. Kevorkian.

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    • EveComment by Eve
      October 5, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

      Jenn, where is your ‘common sense’? Do you really think parents are going to fall for this absurd notion that a 3 year old is ‘gender challenged’ when they don’t even know about sex organs unless someone points  it out? What world do you live in? On this planet humans believe in taking care of their young and encouraging normal development with love and patience. Yes, there are monsters who use children to ‘experiment’ with sexual diviation, Hitler was one of those, and we hear every day of new ones we weren’t aware of. And, no, Jenn, lesbians prefer women over men so no they don’t like men they like wo-men. This horror story is perhaps not indicative of how all lesbian couples treat children, but they should be sent to prison and those women who suddenly decide they want to gay taking the kids and leaving their husbands need to be watched EVERY DAY to make sure their new found sexual revolution is not indroctrinating their children too.

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    • notabigotComment by notabigot
      October 5, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

      Thank you for being the ONE person not spewing hate speech.

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    • CharieComment by Charie
      October 5, 2011 @ 10:35 pm

      “Tammy” still thinks he’s “Tommy” and all your criticism of those in this thread will not alter that.  Because you think you know more about the situation than anyone doesn’t mean you actually do.  Just the age of this child should have screamed “Hands Off!”  But no, the bizarre community of San Francisco decided to take this poor defenseless boy and turn him into a girl because it suits them.

      Your rant is sickening and so is your hate and intolerance of people who don’t think children should be used as guinea pigs.  If this boy hadn’t been allowed to be adopted by lesbians, he would be out playing ball instead of spending half his time on earth being talked at by psychologists and psychiatrists and having painful operations.  How can this child ever grow up normally?  He’ll still be getting psychiatric help when he’s in his 80s if he doesn’t kill himself first.  That does work both ways, you know.

      I believe you have also incorporated many lies and generalities in your post. 

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  12. cxComment by genesal
    October 4, 2011 @ 10:24 am

    In that, lies the SCAREY part.  You all think that there is a real science to this PERVERSION.
    I can see at least 4 unfounded and erroneous assumptions YOU have made.
    Thanks for the Rationalization but please call it what it is, Rationalization.

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  13. americaisintroubleComment by americaisintrouble
    October 4, 2011 @ 10:44 am

    AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE!
    The American People must stop accepting this immoral behavior.
    We have become a third world nation with this sodomite agenda.
    Their agenda affects everyone in our nation. They believe it is a private
    lifestyle but it will have an affect on our future generations, and they know this.
    This is why they are propagating their agenda. Just like marriage, one man and one woman, has affected our nation so will this affect our nation.
    The courts are trying to define marriage when that is to be left to God and the church.
    The reason for marriage is to multiply and replenish the earth. Not so you can carry out your perverted plans. Our forefathers had laws that brought heavy penalties to perverts like this. Thomas Jefferson had laws introduced to casterate those who did such vile things. Individual states had harsher penalties, like death. Check out our history. When we allow this seed of perversion into our society it will be hard to get it out. Those who stand back and do nothing about it is what brings our nation down. There is judgment coming to our nation and Obama or any politician will not stop it…they are not GOD!       

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  14. jimComment by james
    October 4, 2011 @ 12:28 pm

    These two alleged parents should never have been allowed to adopt a child in the first place.
    Now, after brainwashing this unfortunate child into believing that he is a girl, they want to pave the way for him to be mutilated. He will never be a girl. He will just be a castrated male, unable to reproduce and carry on the life of a normal man.

    Unfortunately, even if they don’t get away with performing this mayhem on the boy, he is probably already so far gone, psychologically and emotionally, that he will be a mental basket case for the rest of his life.
    This kind of reminds me of the experiments that Dr. Joseph Mengele performed on the Jews, in the Nazi concentration camps during World War 2.

    There needs to be legislation passed to ban this type of travesty.

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  15. CharlieComment by vietnamvet
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:23 pm

    We were asked (made) to be ‘tolerant’ when the gays started to come out of their closets.
    We were asked (made) to remain ‘tolerant’ when they organized their in-your-face gay parades and monopolized our cities for them.
    We are being asked to apply the word ‘marriage’ to the cohabitations of these abnormal humans. 

    In my view, there are a whole lot of ‘empty closets’ that need to be refilled.

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    • cxComment by genesal
      October 4, 2011 @ 1:32 pm

      We were also told for 40 or more years “That There Was NO Agenda”.  They weren’t fooling anyone and now that they think there is enough of them the Agenda is out in the open and very clear.  I just wonder what reason Liberals feel the need to go to Conservative sites and spout off, deviants have to come to Conservative sites and troll and the Godless have to come to places that believe in God and preach their Godlessness.
      I can only assume that it is part of the fight “Good against eviL”. 

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  16. NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:26 pm

    Is this child abuse? It is a very important question that requires considerable thought. When I read this article I was shocked and disgusted, and my immediate reaction, like many other commentators above, is that there must be something we can do to prevent it. But on further thought, we have to be very careful what we define as child abuse, and what we expect from the government or courts.
    Certainly society has a responsibility to protect innocent children from emotional or physical abuse. But as a conservative, I am very uncomfortable with the idea that the government should decide what parenting is considered acceptable. I don’t want a bureaucrat or a judge telling me how to raise my children. This reminds me of other arguments over child abuse. If a child is obese, the parent is at least partially responsible, but is he/she guilty of child abuse? Plenty of parents mess up their children, but I don’t want the government raising our kids. It could be a slippery slope.
    In this case they crossed the line when they took the child to a doctor to have hormone blockers implanted. That decision will affect the child forever and you cannot argue the child made that decision himself.

    But I think we should put this case down as yet another example of why it is best for children who are adopted to go to stable households where husband and wife are married. We should make it easier for these couples to adopt American kids who need good homes.

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  17. JMDComment by JMD
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:38 pm

    I’m no child psychiatrist; I can only speak from my own personal experience, and that experience tells me it’s perfectly normal for 2- to 4-year-old boys to go through a phase of pretending they’re girls.  No, not every boy goes through it, but I’ve lost count of how many I’ve met over the years.  Every one of them outgrew the phase by the time they started school, and not a single one grew up to be gay. 

    It’s one thing for guardians to make decisions regarding necessary medical treatment for a minor.  But to impose elective procedures on them?  That’s flat-out criminal.  And I also believe it’s wrong to allow gays to adopt.  We’re supposed to PROTECT children from such deviance, not expose them to it! 

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  18. aristotleComment by aristotle
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

    PETA MIGHT GET UPSET BUT COULDNT WE JUST TAKE THOSE TWO OUT IN THE WOODS AND SHOOT THEM?

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  19. jb80538Comment by jb80538
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:42 pm

    1) What Dr would perform this type of procedure on an 11 year old? This is not something that any “parent” can be allowed to do to a child. These “Drs” need to have their license revoked.

    2)Yet more proof that gays are not normal in their thought process.

    3) Evidence too that same sex couples should not be allowed to adopt.

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    • GHUComment by GHU
      October 4, 2011 @ 7:01 pm

      Yes, these enlightened progressive “doctors & psychiatrists” in the 1970′s suddenly decided they would remove homosexuality as a mental disorder. So instead of getting some mental help & therapy,  they were allowed to …..come out of their closets, push their immoral beliefs on everyone in every media outlet, brainwash our children, trying to destroy traditional marriage & family and are working on  destroying freedom of religion & beliefs.

      Now the next perverted mental disease…. Pedophilia is also being discussed and pushed by these “experts” to become  ”normal”. Our children are being targeted as “sexual beings” from the moment they are born by our own perverted government HHS!
      God, please help & protect our children!

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    • dachshund00Comment by dachshund00
      July 5, 2012 @ 11:54 pm

      These two are provide no evidence about the thought process or adoption rights of gays. What about christians who have abused adopted children? Is that evidence that christians should be unable to adopt? What about white people who make bad decisions, is that proof that white people have disrupted thought processes? Think about what you’re saying.

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  20. OR - PatriotComment by Jeff
    October 4, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

    I’m sorry, but a 3 year old is hardly capable of determining if he/she is a boy/girl.  They have no clue at that age, nor do they have the brain power to make any kind of determination like that.
    The “parents” should be locked in jail and their adopted child removed to a safe environment.

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  21. scambugComment by scambug
    October 4, 2011 @ 2:40 pm

    Hmmmm,
    San Francisco…isn’t this the same city that is trying to outlaw circumcisions because it is cruel to children?
     
     

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    • jb80538Comment by jb80538
      October 4, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

      This is much more cruel than circumcision. These women should be locked away for years and never be allowed to be near a child again.

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    • NY GrahamComment by NY Graham
      October 4, 2011 @ 3:49 pm

      Excellent point. If we conservatives empower judges/bureaucrats to act in this case, how long before a liberal judge/bureaucrat makes a decision we don’t like, citing this as precedent? How long before a judge outlaws circumcision on the grounds that it is involuntary genital mutilation and therefore child abuse? That’s what I was getting at with my point above.

      Tread carefully when you wish to give courts/bureaucrats such arbitrary power.

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    • inluminatuoComment by inluminatuo
      October 4, 2011 @ 8:54 pm

      Our Judges and magistrates need to have the fear of tar an feathers re-introduced into society.

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  22. FlaJimComment by FlaJim
    October 4, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

    These two sexual perverts obviously manipulated this little boy.  At the age of three, many kids aren’t quite sure whether they’re boys, girls, or dogs.  Many is the times I had to pull my kids at that age away from the dog’s dish where they were attempting to lap up water or snack on his food. 

    That’s what responsible parents are for.  According to the (non) thought process of these two deviants, I should have investigated getting them shots to grow hair all over their bodies and looked into having their legs shortened so they could scamper around on all fours.

    This is nothing short of aggravated child abuse and should be prosecuted as such with the hapless child put into a stable home and provided with counseling. 

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  23. freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
    October 4, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

    I do not believe that Gays or Lysbians should be allowed to adopt children. In the first place, this puts the child at a unfair advantage to grow into what it is meant to be. He or She will from the beginning not be able to understand why all their friends have a Mother and Father, while they have two of one or the other. This automatically puts the Child in a place where he or she is being forced to accept what those two males or females justifies as natural. All Children should be adopted to a wholesome family environment where all is as it should be, and when they become of age they can choose what they want to be. If at that point they choose to be a Gay or Lysbian, then it is their own decision not influenced in any way to be anything other than what they would become naturally.
    Personally, I detest that this abnormal behavior should be called normal, or personal preferencve, or in any other way the natural order.
    Did not God make us in his own image?. Did he not put a female with a male, and tell them to go forth, be fruitful and multiply?. Since it is a natural thing that it takes a man and a woman to produce a child, does it not seem unnatural for two gays or two lysbians to have a child which they cannot create naturally?. I believe this in it’self says volumes about what is and is not natural. If it was meant for two men to have a child, or two women to have a child, would not have the species been born with both genetalia so that they could have children regardless of what they are?.
    It is just not fair or natural to subject a chld to having two daddies or two mommies and forcing them to grow up being told this is natural. No matter how much argument is brought to say it is OK or NORMAL for two parents to be of the same sex, it will never actually be so.
    What about pedofilles, they believe it is normal for an adult to be with a child. This is not normal in our society, but could it eventually become socially acceptable because this is their choice? It is a personal belief to them, so will, at a point, society say yeah, it’s OK because this is what they feel to be normal. From here, many doors open which should have remained shut, just because a small group of people believe this to be normal for them because it is a choice and as a human being, they should be considered OK in their beliefs.
    God help us all if this perversion from normal should be allowed to take it’s course and become natural in the eyes of society just because some believe it should be so.

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    • dachshund00Comment by dachshund00
      July 5, 2012 @ 11:57 pm

      Lysbian? What they hell is “Lysbian”? It’s Lesbian, first of all. Secondly, what about all of the kids who are raised by family members or some other kind of guardian? What about kids from single parent homes? What about kids adopted by traditional families who are still abused? Go to any children’s hospital, school, or center for helping children and you’ll find that any kind of adult can take advantage of or abuse a child. Sexuality is irrelevant, all it takes is an adult who can manipulate or put power over a child.

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  24. americaisintroubleComment by americaisintrouble
    October 4, 2011 @ 8:58 pm

    AMERICA BLESS GOD!

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  25. freedomfighterComment by freedomfighter
    October 5, 2011 @ 3:29 am

    As the father of 3, and now Grand Father and Great Grandfather, I have gathered some intel from children and their abilities as infants. At three years old, most children do not even know how many fingers to put up to tell you how old they are, unless by the constant showing by the parent how to put up enough fingers in answer to that question. Now these females are trying to get us to believe that a three year old has so mastered the signing language, and the understanding of males and females that he is intelligent enough to sign to them that he would rather be female than male. Give me a break, this is purely a situation where two females have decided to have the child be the gender they prefer, so they in their lunacy are trying to convince a court and judge that this child actually knows at this tender age what gender he prefers to be. Any Court, Attorney, or Judge who would fall for this obvious disallusionment would need to be stricken from law forever. Children at this age have no comprehension of Gender, nor do they understand the difference between a boy and a girl. I am also quite confident that they also do not grasp the totality of the Signing language to be so specific as to make such a rediculous statement, unless they are merely apeing what the Lysbians have possibly taught them to say in Sign.

    As far as normalcy, I would like too make a statement along that line while I am on the subject.
    If a disease, or something miracilously non normal were to befall the total of the humanity on the planet tomorrow, and every person on the earth were to become either Lysbian or Gay, in less than 120 years the total of humanity would be gone from the earth. Without the NORMAL progression of a Man and a Woman as a pair, the people of the earth would not exist within that time. So I now ask the question, what is normal and what is deviant. Anything which would cause the total cleansing of the human population from this planet cannot possibly in my way of thinking be normal, but more of a catastrophic disease. I believe that there is nothing normal about a person who would want to be sexually active with the same sex. I am sure we all know the story of Sodom and Gamora. Believe me when I say that those who live in that lifestyle will most assuredly be denied entrance into God’s kingdom when the next cleansing of the planet takes place.
    I feel deeply sadened by this young boy’s insecurities which are being forced upon him by two females who happen to believe that since they are female that he should be also. His adolescent years are going to be so confusing to him that I believe that he will end up being one of the suicides we read about all too often. Driven to this due to the doubts and uncertanties forced upon him by two people who have their own best interests at heart, not his. I shed tears for any child put into this situation even before they know the difference between genders, as a result of the preferences of the two females which pretend to be his parents either by Mother and Mother, or Mother and Father, or whatever they call themselves to him.
    And Jesus said, suffer the little Children to come unto me, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven. The purity, simplicity, and the loving and forgiving hearts of Children, is the right they were born to have. Their young minds should not have to deal with these kinds of issues until they are adult enough to know what they want to be. They should not be stressed with the type of burdens put upon them by abnormal relationships, with abnormal lifestyles.
    Please Jesus come soon before there are  no faithful left, before more perversion is pushed upon the inhabitants of this planet. Even the President believes that these people have a place in our society, as he claims to be a Christian. God Help Us, and the Children who cannot speak for themselves, and who are being subjected to abnormal lifestyles before they are old enough to understand and decide these thing for themselves.

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