Home News ACLU wants to stop sheriff from using inmates to build border wall

ACLU wants to stop sheriff from using inmates to build border wall

January 9, 2017 at 11:55 am 91 News
Share!

DARTMOUTH — If Bristol County Sheriff Thomas M. Hodgson convinces President-elect Donald Trump to use inmates to build the a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, he will first have to get past the ACLU, which promised Thursday to do whatever it might take to stop it.

Carol Rose, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts, called the offer, announced at the sheriff’s swearing-in ceremony Wednesday night in Fall River, “perverse, inhumane and likely unconstitutional.”

“Not only is Sheriff Hodgson willing to get involved with Trump’s racially discriminatory plan to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, he is proposing to use modern-day slave labor to do it,” she said in a statement.

“The men and women incarcerated at the Bristol County House of Corrections are mostly poor people and people of color. The idea of sending them to build a wall to keep out other people of color who are fleeing violence or devastating poverty is abhorrent,” she said.

If the sheriff follows through on his “shameful plan,” the ACLU of Massachusetts will use “every tool in our toolbox, including litigation, to stop him,” she said.

Gov. Charlie Baker swore in Hodgson to a fourth term as Bristol County sheriff on Wednesday night at Bristol Community College. And on Thursday, Baker’s press secretary gave the sheriff’s plan a cool but diplomatic reception. Baker has been trying to make amends with Trump, but he did not support the president-elect during the campaign and said he did not vote for him.

“The Baker-Polito administration is thankful for the valuable community service inmates in Bristol County have provided through work programs and would prefer they continue to offer those services closer to home. The administration has not been briefed on the sheriff’s proposal,” he said.

Hodgson at his inaugural address said that inmate participation would be voluntary and that he has spoken to other sheriffs about his plan. But John Birtwell, a spokesman for Plymouth County Sheriff Joseph D. McDonald Jr., was reluctant to place the Plymouth sheriff on Hodgson’s bandwagon.

“Charity begins at home, and that’s where I think Sheriff McDonald’s focus will be for the time being,” Birtwell said about the prospects of sending Plymouth work crews to Texas.

Fourth District Congressman Joseph P. Kennedy III posted a humorous tweet on his account — “Not sure why pres-elect needs forced labor to build his wall. Isn’t Mexico paying?”

Trump and Kellyanne Conway, his spokeswoman, did not respond to tweets from The Standard-Times, asking for reaction to Hodgson’s offer.

Closer to home, former Dartmouth selectman and Republican activist Joseph L. Michaud praised the idea. “Why not? If done properly, I think it’s a great idea,” he said.

Inmates have “a stake in the issue,” which Michaud described as “unbridled illegal immigration.” He contended that undocumented immigrants drive down wages and drive up the costs of social programs. “I think the sheriff’s idea is a capital idea,” he said. “Whether anything will come from it, I don’t know.”

But with a GOP president and a Republican-controlled Congress and Gen. John F. Kelly, Trump’s choice as Homeland Security director, now is the time, Michaud said. “I credit Tom for thinking outside the box on a grand scale,” Michaud said. Kelly has a tough-talking reputation and was in charge of the military jail at Guantanamo.

Jonathan Darling, a spokesman for Hodgson, said the sheriff’s office has not heard anything yet from the Trump transition team, but might in the next few days, given the extensive national publicity the sheriff’s proposal has received. Hodgson will appear Friday morning on Fox and Friends to discuss the plan.

Hodgson also will make a formal presentation and begin signing people up when he attends the annual meetings of the National Sheriffs’ Association and the Major Counties Sheriffs’ Association in Washington, D.C., the first week of February. “He has tremendous support from the other sheriffs,” Darling said.

The logistics of transporting, housing in security facilities and feeding the inmates for a project of such size will be discussed over the next few months, Darling said.

___

(c)2017 The Standard-Times, New Bedford, Mass.

Visit The Standard-Times, New Bedford, Mass. at www.southcoasttoday.com

Distributed by Tribune Content Agency, LLC.

—-

This content is published through a licensing agreement with Acquire Media using its NewsEdge technology.

VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
Rating: 1.8/10 (8 votes cast)

ACLU wants to stop sheriff from using inmates to build border wall, 1.8 out of 10 based on 8 ratings

Print Friendly
Share!


Please leave a comment below.


91 Comments

  1. oldsaltydawg January 9, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    I say arrest these ACLU morons and make them help. Those morons need a brain and criminals should have to pay their way as the rest of us do. Them building the wall would do two things earn them their keep and prevent illegals and TERRORISTS out. Terrorists aiding is what I would charge the ACLUMORONS with which saves tax dollars since a trial is not needed and these fools are helping terrorists with their IGNORANCE.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (23 votes cast)
    • northwestmike January 9, 2017 at 1:27 pm

      Very well said Does this mean we can build the Wall with free Labor LOL. Tell the ACLU to Go Pack Sand

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.8/5 (16 votes cast)
    • proudoftheusa January 9, 2017 at 1:31 pm

      We are acting inhumane to a population that is inhumane. Typical Marxist logic!

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.7/5 (15 votes cast)
    • parthenon1 January 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm

      Forget the ACLU they are no longer of importance. i have said for years we should bring back the chain gang work groups Maybe not under as severe conditions as back in the ’30’s but why pay so much for govt.contractors and the stupid govt regs of today. Plus the convicts themselves should like to get in the fresh air and sunshine.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.9/5 (11 votes cast)
    • wilhelm1 January 9, 2017 at 2:30 pm

      You are saying that the “American Communist Liberation Union” aka ACLU from Massachusetts has reared it ugly head again. Big Surprise.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (10 votes cast)
    • sclayton6165 January 9, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      i couldn’t even get through the entire article. I am so mad. Seems like the ACLU cares more about prisoners rights than law abiding citizens’ rights. If these people didn’t want to have to build a wall, they shouldn’t have committed a crime. It is not our fault they are “of color”. Maybe if more prisoners had to work really hard instead of eating free meals and watching tv all day, we would have less people in prison.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.8/5 (4 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 5:25 pm

      [i couldn’t even get through the entire article. I am so mad. Seems like the ACLU cares more about prisoners rights than law abiding citizens’ rights. If these people didn’t want to have to build a wall, they shouldn’t have committed a crime. It is not our fault they are “of color”. Maybe if more prisoners had to work really hard instead of eating free meals and watching tv all day, we would have less people in prison.]

      Very true. Several years back 20/20 did a piece on repeat offenders and asked them WHY they broke the law again. QUITE A FEW said it was “cause its cushier in jail than out in the real world. You get all the benefits (free health, free food, free dental, free tv, internet, and even college) just with NOT ONE of the responsibilities..

      IMO THAT IS WHY we have such a revolving door issue with criminals. CAUSE PRISONS ARE just too damn cushy..

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.5/5 (2 votes cast)
    • paoldguy January 9, 2017 at 6:51 pm

      A few practical questions: Is a County in MA going to be willing to pay transportation, lodging, food, and guard expenses along the Mexican border? What if they escape, who will be responsible? Who is going to pay to train the guys without construction skills? I don’t think the Constitution is the problem. I think it is a more basic logistical problem. Lastly what if some escape into Mexico?

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 1.0/5 (2 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 10, 2017 at 2:24 am

      On the who pays.. Share the bill with the states along the border.

      As for training, they can get it on the job, OR USE the bloody free ‘schooling’ they get to teach them before they head out.

      As for “What if they escape into mexico”.. THAT’s what the armed guards will be there to stop happening..

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.0/5 (2 votes cast)
    • Jota_ January 10, 2017 at 11:18 am

      “On the who pays.. Share the bill with the states along the border.”

      Spoken like a true statist!

      (For your convenience a definition)
      http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/statism.html

      The solution to the problem is to stop the government from causing it in the first place, NOT get MORE government

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 3.5/5 (2 votes cast)
  2. dennis123 January 9, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    Modern day slave labor? Let them earn their keep.The southern states have gone back to the chain gang and work the roads which will probably help them not to return.North Carolina has road gangs but no chains and they are working the roads,laying asphalt and the like and doing so they are at least contributing something for the state in which they committed their crimes.If building a wall can save money and they already work than by all means use them.I would like to know where in the Constitution it says that inmates can’t work? If prison is about rehabilitation then let them earn some respect for themselves along with responsibility that all men should have.A slave is an innocent person forced to work for nothing.People confined to prison for being a menace to society need to regain self worth and they can begin to contribute by building a wall instead of lifting weights and beating each other out of bordum.When they are finished their work day they will be to tired to get in fights.Trust me.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (16 votes cast)
    • jacobite January 9, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      The Constitution specifically allows persons convicted of crimes to be held to involuntary servitude. As usual, the ACLU shysters are lying about the Constitution, and hoping for a US District Court shyster to bail them out. No ACLU member should be allowed to live in the US.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.9/5 (15 votes cast)
    • stephenrowe January 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm

      Actually it is not in the Constitution. It is however the 13th Amendment.

      Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (8 votes cast)
    • cgretired January 9, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      Classic definition of “Hard Labor”.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (4 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 5:28 pm

      The 13th amendment IS part of the constitution..

      That said, i would print that out and hand a copy to EVERY ONE of these liberal dunces!

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
    • Jota_ January 10, 2017 at 11:41 am

      “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

      And when the 13th Amendment was made it was unimaginable we would be locking people up in prison for smoking an herb, and calling it a crime, which contradicts the Bible which says it is good

      Gen_1:12  And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
      Gen_1:29  And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

      So now we pay to have 25% of the world’s prisoners because we INVENT CRIME, add a profit incentive to prison labor and you will find yourself chained for not paying your taxes on what ever they imagine needs to be taxed, at just a rate you cannot pay

      We already went down this road in the 1930’s, does anyone read HISTORY? It just corrupts the law.

      Read Fredric Bastiat “The Law” too It was written in 1850. This is nothing new

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 2.3/5 (3 votes cast)
  3. wedey January 9, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    I think having prisioners build the wall or people on welfare doing it. That would be great. Non violent prisoners could have their sentences reduced or people on welfare could finally earn their money. Maybe that would install a work ethic in them. ACLU should stay out of it.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.8/5 (17 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 5:30 pm

      IMO that is WHY these liberals are ranting.. They don’t WANT any work ethic or personal responsibility to be instilled..

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
  4. southernpatriot January 9, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    The Atheist Communist Lesbian Union will not be able to stop a sheriff from using inmates to build a wall, if they volunteer to do that, which many, if not most, will for various reasons–to get a little pocket change to buy cigarettes, to get out of the confines of the prison/jail, to get some exercise and at least some outdoor experience without having to have eyes all around their head to watch for trouble.

    If for some leftist judge to give the ACLU victory in any case such as this, then all use of inmates to pick up trash from the sides of the highway, to work in the produce fields of Angola Penitentiary, to make license plates, or do anything else would also be prohibited. The ACLU is blowing through their a$$ as usual.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.8/5 (12 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:30 pm

      Don’t forget those prisons in CA and iirc Colorado which have those prisoners who are volunteer forest fire fighters..

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
  5. surlycurmudgen January 9, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    How about we label the ACLU as what they are, an anti-American subversive organization and communist front dedicated to the destruction of the nation.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.9/5 (14 votes cast)
  6. Lewis Williams January 9, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    Think of this as a vacation for the prisoners, start it in winter, and they get to escape the Mass. winters.

    Also I wonder what part of the Constitution they think is violated, cruel and unusual punishment, the real cruel punishment would be making them stay in Massachusetts.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.8/5 (11 votes cast)
    • southernpatriot January 9, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      All the inmate workers would be “volunteers” and paid the standard rate for inmate pay in their state and county.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
  7. deedee3 January 9, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    It is the ACLU that is slowly destroying this country. They are literally shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights with their perverse interpretation. They do not understand that these laws are in place to protect the LAW ABIDING citizens of OUR country.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (13 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      The Anti-constitution liberals union only seems to care about the rights of criminals, citizens or not.

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (1 vote cast)
  8. Sherry Chestnut January 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Listen why is it wrong to make these inmates work for a living when they are treated much better than our military veterans are who put their lives on the line for our country! They have a cushy life on all of our dimes so I say let them work for their keep. Isn’t that what everyone does?? We work to live?? These people are in jail because they stole, killed, hurt, and destroyed someone else’s life!!Once they committed to do something wrong and was duly convicted they LOST ALL OF THEIR RIGHTS!!! Usually if they volunteer to do work like this it can cut down on their sentences. They have the right to say no but if they do reward them with lowered sentences if possible. Of course if their crime was a murder or something terrible they don’t get the chance to do this.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.9/5 (9 votes cast)
  9. Edward Cline January 9, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Tell the ALCU (aka the Alinsky Load of Legal **** United) to go shoe a goose.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
  10. David January 9, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    We are paying for these people to continue to exist and they cannot work for that existence. In several countries in the world, it is the inmate’s family or friends who are responsible for food, clothing, and medical care. Maybe the ACLU would prefer that scenario?

    Why is it that we tolerate such nonsense and waste of the taxpayers money in frivolous lawsuits defending our right to have these people be productive in their incarceration? As though they are deprived of good food, warm surroundings, good medical care, and even a workout area! Let them provide the citizens with some repayment for those services!

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (7 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:34 pm

      I can just hear the howls from their minds, if someone dared to suggest we go to that way of housing inmates..

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (1 vote cast)
  11. Gary M January 9, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Based upon the original charter for the ACLU they are so far from that, that their organization should be declared unconstitutional. They seem to be there just to be an annoyance for anything not Liberal in view. The people in prison can be paid a fair wage and learn a new trade at the same time so that they can support themselves once out of prison. I’ll bet poverty and lack of jobs is one very sig. cause of repeat offenders. If our prisons are truly there to rehabilitate those who have lost their way, this wall project could be a big help in getting them on the straight and narrow. The prison population is significantly Black because for whatever reason, they are the ones committing crimes at a far greater ratio than their %age of the overall population But no, because this liberal institution doesn’t like the politics they will oppose it. They see people of color working to keep out other people of color. That is a complete falsehood. It is people who owe a debt to society and being allowed to learn a trade while paying that debt back building a wall to help keep out illegals, be they white, yellow, tan or Black. It is the left that sees color in everything and is, in reality, the true racists in our midst.

    VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (6 votes cast)
  12. golfnut6 January 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    What if….we describe it this way. Teach the inmates how to operate and maintain backhoes, cranes, bulldozers, frontend loaders, road graders, and materials trucks. Then they get to learn marketable skills AND probably join the operators union, the teamsters union, and the laborers union. Then everybody is happy. Even liberals for a change.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
    • deedee3 January 9, 2017 at 2:42 pm

      Liberals will never be happy……

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (7 votes cast)
  13. disqus_qe2rIqBSeq January 9, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Best source of labor – the ACLU fails to account for the fact that these are all convicted felons serving their time at “hard labor”, and thus especially ready for this service. Plus it is Voluntary – they do not have to volunteer.

    Maybe this way we could train these felons how to do a full day’s work and give them the skills necessary so they can support themselves and their families when they are done with their sentences.

    It looks like a win-win story! The wall is built, the felons get good, hands on job experience in valuable trades, we keep more illegals out of the country so there will be fewer inmates in the prisons.

    Why is the ACLU so worried about this? I think because Obama, Clintons, Holder, IRS executives and Lynch will all be imprisoned felons and they would be out there building Trump’s wall! That would be amusing and satisfying all at the same time.

    We could put Sheriff Joe in charge since he is no longer needed in Arizona!

    Great plan. Make America Great Again!

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (6 votes cast)
  14. RacingStude January 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    This one is EASY! Appoint Sheriff Joe Arpaio as the boss for building the wall! He’ll have nice tent cities, up and down the border, with his shocking pink work crew, EFFICIENTLY, building a nice wall! I’ll bet it would come in under budget and built in less time! GO SHERIFF JOE!

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (6 votes cast)
  15. columba January 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Maybe the ACLU would feel better about it if it were called “community service.” After all, many high school students are required to do “community service” in order to graduate, and they haven’t even been convicted of a crime. (I’m only half-joking here.)

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
  16. FrankC January 9, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Let the prisoners volunteer, and if they do volunteer then get out of their way. There is a possibility that they could learn an employable skill that would give them a chance at getting their lives back on the right track. They might also like a chance to get out in the fresh air and sunshine for a little while.

    VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
  17. Lewis Williams January 9, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Our local sheriff used prison labor alongside tradespeople to build a new firehouse. Prisoners learned skills, firehouse got built on the cheap. Done properly this is a real win win, also offer shortened sentences to volunteers and this will take off.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.8/5 (5 votes cast)
  18. empd January 9, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    Here’s my question: how does the ACLU have legal standing to sue anyone for anything when all those plaintiffs who sued for Soetoro’s birth certificate (natural born citizen) were dismissed because they had “no standing”?

    We have given the Communists and their front groups way too much latitude to destroy our culture. Time to put an end to it.

    I am sure the majority of prisoners would be grateful for having something to do that has a purpose and learn some job skills in the process.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:37 pm

      Cause io we have way too many liberal sissy judges who lack the balls to stand up and TELL the ACLU to Shut the hell up and get this nonsense out of my courtroom..

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
  19. daftzim January 9, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    When an illegal is apprehended and deported, all of his/her property should be seized and sold. Similarly, an excise tax of around 50% should be levied on the $20-30 billion of annual remittances to Mexico. These two revenue sources can pay for plenty of prison labor.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (4 votes cast)
  20. randy822 January 9, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    I should not say this but I would not be upset if ISIS bombed the ACLU headquarters.

    VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (4 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:39 pm

      I certainly wouldn’t be sheding a tear..

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
  21. Mike Egan January 9, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    Carol Rose has made it abundantly clear she is a flaming liberal without much common sense. If inmates work under normal conditions, there is nothing inhumane here. If they disagree with the philosophy of building a wall, who cares? They are not in prison because their input on social issues was desperately sought. They are there because the broke societies rules. It is a good idea, the opinions of the Carol Rose’s of the world notwithstanding.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
  22. bdcorvette January 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    Carol Rose is an idiot. The people incarcerated therein are mostly …CRIMINALS who ended up there by breaking the law. Many are thieves and thugs. Let them do honest work. It might be infectuous and straighten them out upon release,or it may discourage them from returning to build some more.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (4 votes cast)
  23. Chuck E Cottom January 9, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    I do not see what the problem is Maybe these felons can learn a job that could benefit them after their release other than that they are housed fed free medical care and 24 hour care at the cost of the taxpayers

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
  24. DCB January 9, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Perfect way for these felons/prisoners to earn their keep. Maybe it will deter others from breaking the law or at least think twice before breaking the law.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
    • ltuser
      ltuser January 9, 2017 at 6:41 pm

      And imo that is another reason the aclu is against this.. They don’t want any form of deterrence to repeat criminals.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
  25. Ghostsoldier January 9, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    Have to agree with the ACLU on this one. Just because these are convicted felons there is no reason to make them get off their butts and help the country whose laws they violated to wind up in jail to start with. Who knows, some of them might learn a useful skill and give up crime. Totally inhumane to be teaching someone something useful. Not to mention the inhumanity of them being outside in the fresh air instead of relaxing in the comfort of their roughly six by ten room that they share with up to three other people. Yes sir this is one cruel idea.

    VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
    Rating: 4.0/5 (3 votes cast)
    • Lewis Williams January 9, 2017 at 5:53 pm

      Is that sarcasm? But just in case, it wasn’t several people have said this is voluntary, if true that would seem to remove any Constitutional issues.

      VN:D [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.5/5 (2 votes cast)
    • Phillip Lake January 10, 2017 at 10:29 pm

      Ghost: you have to spell out the fact that you are fixing to write a post that is sarcasm in these places because some of these folks really get offended if they can’t tell the difference 😉

      VN:F [1.9.6_1107]
      Rating: 4.0/5 (1 vote cast)

Write a Reply or Comment