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California: Transgender Inmates Could Soon Have Bras and Cosmetics

April 3, 2017 at 11:55 am 30 News
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Transgender California prison inmates would be allowed to have bras, cosmetics and other personal items corresponding to their gender identities under proposed rules filed with state regulators on Tuesday.

The state corrections department is seeking the changes in response to a federal lawsuit that earlier led California to become the first state to provide taxpayer-funded sex reassignment surgery to an inmate.

Transgender female inmates housed in men’s facilities could have feminine undergarments, lip gloss and mascara, for instance, while transgender male inmates in women’s prisons could wear aftershave and boxers.

A federal magistrate previously ordered the state to provide some of the items. However, attorneys for transgender inmate Shiloh Quine are still sparring with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation over the details, with another court hearing set for April 27.

The new regulations will have a public hearing and comment period before they can take effect.

Quine’s attorneys at the nonprofit Transgender Law Center did not respond to requests for comment.

Quine, 57, had sex reassignment surgery in January and was transferred from a men’s facility to a women’s prison in Chowchilla last month.

She recently alleged in a federal court filing that prison officials had retaliated by denying her a razor and other personal belongings.

Quine said the resulting beard and mustache was making the transition to life as a woman more difficult, while she also was being denied her television and enough privacy to perform required intimate post-operative procedures.

Quine was recently moved into the general inmate population, said corrections department spokeswoman Terry Thornton. There she can have a razor and other property that routinely wasn’t allowed for nearly two months while she was being evaluated as a new inmate.

Thornton said the same rules apply to all female inmates.

Quine was known as Rodney James Quine when she and an accomplice kidnapped and fatally shot 33-year-old Shahid Ali Baig, a father of three, during a robbery in downtown Los Angeles in 1980.

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  1. henrytx April 3, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    You have got to be kidding me. These ‘guys’ are criminals and the system is concerned with their identity. Who is going to pay for their ‘personal items?’

    Just when I think it can’t possibly get any worse, someone hands me a new definition. I can’t wait for the prison system to allow inmates to marry goats, cows, and sheep.

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    • frainhrc April 3, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      Henry, if they marry cows, goats, and sheep isn’t that same sex marriage? We all live in bizarro land where knowing who you are and being well-adjusted is now a negative. God help us!

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    • 7789361 April 3, 2017 at 2:14 pm

      Sodomy has been tolerated in our prisons since so-called unbiased State Sanctioned Secular Humanism legalized, and normalized it. Now they have legalized Transgenderism. What is legal is moral they say.

      I can’t wait for our righteous representatives to appoint a majority of Supreme Court Justices to overturn this corrupt legislation.

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    • romboron April 3, 2017 at 2:29 pm

      Hang on henrytx – as these dumbass liberals allow more sharia practices in this country, it’s what they do.

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    • privateye842 April 3, 2017 at 3:35 pm

      In the land of fruits & nuts this is normal. But wait, when the big earthquake comes, California will just sink into the Pacific ocean and this nightmare will end.

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    • ConservativeNotRepublican April 3, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      As I often post: Do not attempt to find the bottom of the liberal stupidity barrel. It does not exist. It is a bottomless pit of unceasing idiocy.

      No matter how stupid you may believe liberals to be, you will always be exponentially underestimating how stupid they can become. Just when you believe you have found the bottom of the barrel, I can assure you that, not too far down the road, another example will present itself, which will surpass the previous incident, that you thought could not possibly be exceeded.

      I say these things as someone who searched for years to find the bottom of that barrel, only to be proven wrong time and time again. I am only trying to save you the trouble of searching for something which you will never find.

      Trust me when I tell you: The bottom of the liberal stupidity barrel does not exist.

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      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 4:31 pm

      Privateeye. I have been waiting on that “Big one” for at least 2 decades now.. STILL am waiting..

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  2. mystic
    mystic April 3, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    This is in my backyard!!! This insanity must stop!! This MAN murdered another human being, who btw, never got the chance to have his personal items afforded him during a ‘robbery’ that not only took his life, but left his family without their most important figure in their lives, their father and husband. So why should this felon MAN be allowed anything but a cot and three meals? *smh

    I most certainly will be at this hearing for the public. My tax dollars to house inmates that are by all means dangerous to society, have enough comforts of home without adding ‘masscara’ and lip gloss to a MAN who obviously is more then confused and requires mental health help, not cosmetics on my dime!!

    ~Mystic

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      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 4:37 pm

      Combine that with US the tax payer normally have to PAY for their own elective surgery. SO WHY THE heck is it being provided for BY tax payers for these inmates. IMO IF they want it so bad, they should beg and plead witht heir OWN DAMN families to pony the dosh up..
      That plus imo murders lik e he is imo deserve only one punishment, Once convicted, they have 5 years to make an appeal. Once that is denied, they get to sit around for the rest of that 5 yr period and then get HUNG!!!!

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  3. cowboybob April 3, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    So is this a widespread problem or the story of a couple of freaks? Leave it to the communist government in Cali to go off the deep end on a non story. And also for the AP to report a non story. ********…

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  4. Klaus April 3, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    Just when I thought they can’t get any dumber in California, they prove me wrong.

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  5. odayterrence April 3, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    1. The only surgery Quine was/is entitled to is the Death Needle in the arm.
    2. This should make prisoners raping prisoners far more interesting.
    3. Taxpayer monies spent on this stuff would be far better spent on mandatory rehabilitation programs to keep them from returning to prison.

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      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 4:40 pm

      A syringe of air to the caroted kills very fast by air embolism. IMO that is the best way to kill these criminal savages.. Don’t give them the cocktail of drugs.. That costs too much. AIR is free!

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  6. meredit April 3, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    If they’re provided to female inmates, o.k. Otherwise they should be optional, to be purchased with their own resources.

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  7. lillitulip237 April 3, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Being a prision inmate you don’t need make up and bra. You need only the barest minimum to sustain life.

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    • drillbeast April 4, 2017 at 12:18 am

      You gotta ask.
      Where are they going to put the tampons?

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  8. capricorn1 April 3, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    a fire needs to break out in that wing of the prison.

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  9. columba April 3, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    It’s hard to keep up with who’s crazier in this mess: the man with the beard and mustache who wants to be called “she” and play dress-up in a woman’s prison, or the people who insist on letting him do it.

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      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 4:43 pm

      IMO both are equally dumb as one another…

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  10. kayo1025 April 3, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    Are we talking about state or federal prisons? I’m not at all interested in my tax dollars paying for this!

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  11. baitfish April 3, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    commiefornia. Nuff said.

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  12. maloneconservative April 3, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    I hate to break it to you all, but this has been happening in New York state for years. If an inmate had started any type of sex change before getting incarcerated, NYS taxpayers pay to finish the job. There have been inmates who purposely committed crimes because they didn’t have the money to have these operations. How sick is that? I would imagine most people would be enraged if they knew just what their hard earned tax dollars pay for all throughout the prison system. Ask your local corrections officers (that name alone is ridiculous as no inmate is getting corrected) how much inmates pay for commissary items. Ask how many pay-per-view sporting events they see. Ask how many types of new gym equipment they have. Ask how many grievances they have to answer because of a supposed slight the inmate feels has happened to him/her. Ask about how inmates will have operations in hospitals before the general public gets them. Any hospital used by the prison system has to have a secure ward. Who do you think pays for this? Certainly not the hospital. Be assured if this is happening in NYS and now in CA, it is happening elsewhere.

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    • Dragon60 April 3, 2017 at 8:00 pm

      if this has been happening, it needs to stop. It costs enough to keep these prisoners in prison. There should only be basic medical and dental care. nothing more than that. basic haircuts, no need for gym equipment, or T.V., and definitely no pay per view. The basics are all that is needed.

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      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      [ hate to break it to you all, but this has been happening in New York state for years. If an inmate had started any type of sex change before getting incarcerated, NYS taxpayers pay to finish the job. There have been inmates who purposely committed crimes because they didn’t have the money to have these operations. How sick is that?]

      So these cretins KNOWINGLY break the law, just so unca sammy can pay for their sex change? IMO then that should automatically invalidate any claim they have to force the guvt for paying for it..

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  13. doced April 3, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    However outrageous many of us believe it to be, we must remind ourselves that the voters in those States who elect, then re-elect, the politicians who advance and implement such, are evidently pleased with it all. As long as my taxes are not financing this madness, let those who approve of it, pay for it.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser April 3, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      Since iirc Fed money pays for the Dept of corrections, not just state, then we all are paying for this insanity…

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  14. Dragon60 April 3, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Not with my tax dollars, whether it is State, Federal, or local. Why should our tax dollars be used for this kind of stuff.

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  15. nunvyabiz April 3, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Bras and cosmetics for what? Are they planning on going out? Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of prison? What next, are we gonna pay for prison prom night? Damned lunatics…

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  16. Dragon60 April 3, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Also, no tax money should be spent on gender change operations. If they want it that badly, let their families pay for it out of their pockets. These prisoners are being punished, not rewarded or changed.

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  17. jimwg April 5, 2017 at 6:30 am

    Let’s hope there’s as much outrage and push-back when it comes to overtly crossdressing teachers in elementary schools. A neighbor’s son in the foreign service in Thailand half-joked that any guy touring Bangkok shouldn’t look for dates because chances are it’s a trans guy. “Third sex” trans people are virtually institutionalized there and even praised over real women and it got that bad because long ago the moral class just laid back and assumed perversity would just blow over. Japan is frantically struggling to climb back up off that same slope that their pop culture slipped below their radar and this is an omen to us here.

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