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Kindergarten teacher investigated for using Ouija board to tell scary story to class

March 6, 2017 at 11:35 am 46 News
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(UPI) — A Wisconsin mom is calling for her son’s kindergarten teacher to be fired, alleging she was “talking to spirits” in class using a Ouija board.

The Milwaukee mother, who did not want to be named, said her son’s teacher at Zablocki Elementary used the Ouija board during class Friday.

“They were shutting off the lights and making it dark and talking to spirits. That’s not something that should be at school,” the mother told WISN-TV.

Ouija boards, which are printed with the letters of the alphabet and feature a pointer for users to place their hands on, supposedly allow users to communicate with the dead, or with other spirits. The board’s effectiveness was “proven” to the U.S. Patent Office when a manufacturer sought a patent in the 19th century.

The mother said her son has been having nightmares since the incident.

“He’s scared now to go to bed at night, to be in the dark, anything alone,” she said.

The teacher said the Ouija board has been in her classroom since October, but she only used it as a prop Friday to tell the class a scary story.

“The kids have been asking for a scary story and I got the board and moved the paper clip to answer some of their questions,” the teacher said in an email to the mother. “They asked about scary characters in movies. I did not say there were spirits. It was all done in fun. I understand your concern. It was silly and I’m sorry. I will take the board home and this won’t happen again.”

Milwaukee Public Schools said the teacher has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation.

“I’m happy that she’s being investigated. Maybe she’ll think twice about doing something in the future,” the mother said.

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  1. drillbeast March 6, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    For many, the Ouija board is NOT just an innocent past time. She should be relieved of her teaching credentials.

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      ltuser March 6, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      And note, had it been a teacher holding a bible study, the media would be all over this story.. BUT since it was a liberal teacher, the media is silent..

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  2. praireliving March 6, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    In my faith the use of a Ouija board is no joke. It is absolutely forbidden. If this happened in my child’s class I’d be very upset. Perhaps this is just another reason we home educate our kids so we never have to worry about teachers who think it is harmless and a ‘joke’. Kindergartners no less. UGH!

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    • DrGadget March 6, 2017 at 6:38 pm

      There’s a reason for that. The point of a Ouija Board is to contact spirits. It says it right there on the box! They aren’t even trying to hide it.

      I’ve known several people who fooled around with one of those and ended up with weird demonic activity in their house. It’s not a game.

      BTW you think you’ve summoned Aunt Martha but you didn’t. Demons know how to imitate Aunt Martha.

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    • 7789361 March 9, 2017 at 9:54 am

      The new so-called unbiased Secular Humanist State sanctioned religion of The US, and Western Civilization is corrupting our society starting with Kindergarteners. This new religion spread through our Education Establishments, by Educators of Educators like John Dewey, one of the first signers of The Humanist Manifesto.

      Once this indoctrination is realized our society can become righteous, and wholesome again with good moral values taught to our malleable school children. President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence should appoint good Supreme Court Justices to replace the legislators of criminality.

      This is how Educator John Dewey’s book ” A COMMON FAITH “, based on The Terry Lectures delivered at Yale University ended,” Here are all the elements for A Religious Faith that shall not be confined to sect, class, or race. Such a faith has always been implicitly The Common Faith Of Mankind, It remains to make it explicit, and militant.”

      These religious so-called unbiased Secular Humanist values are what the liberal Democrats, their Supreme Court appointed Injustices, their liberal Popular Media Moguls, their Education Ministers, their Motion Picture Industry, and their United Nations appointed Czars are normalizing to everyone. Study the tenets of The Humanist Manifesto.

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  3. oldshooter March 6, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    The fact that some religious sects are still teaching archaic notions about the Ouija Board is not a reason to discipline the teacher. I’m not surprised the ignorant mother who was concerned didn’t want to be named. Further, I suspect that her son’s nighttime fears are more the result of HER fear of the Ouija Board and more significantly, some sort of malevolent spirits, which she most likely communicated to him as well, than of that happened in his classroom.

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    • darby March 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm

      In 10 years the mommy might thank the teacher for helping her precious little snowflake toughen up.

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    • drillbeast March 6, 2017 at 2:20 pm

      Satans’ greatest power.
      Convincing people he doesn’t exist.

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      ltuser March 6, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      So are you two supporting the teacher here??

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    • Jota_ March 6, 2017 at 10:58 pm

      “The fact that some religious sects are still teaching archaic notions about the Ouija Board is not a reason to discipline the teacher.”

      You are right, their error is not a reason to discipline her.

      But it then begs the question, WHY SHE THOUGHT it would serve to scare the children

      Which points to her as the one teaching it had some power it does not.

      And since the word “discipline” means to instruct, educate, train, she is very much in need of it.

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  4. darby March 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    A bus driver plays Christian music. A parent objects and the the bus driver quits playing Christian music. Problem solved.

    Children want a scary story so a teacher uses a Ouija board as a prop. A parent objects and the teacher apologized and said it won’t happen again. Should be problem solved but the parent needs somebody to get fired to protect her little snowflake in training.

    If the teacher gets fired the bus driver should be fired. Or we could just learn how to accept apologies and get on with our lives.

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    • oldshooter March 6, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      @drillbeast: God’s greatest difficulty:
      Convincing people he DOES exist

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    • praireliving March 6, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      I’m not saying the teacher should be fired but it certainly shows a distinct lack of judgment in using such a ‘prop’ in a classroom especially with such young children. I don’t doubt the child is having nightmares and it is probably more from the scary story than the prop. Not all kids who have fears are ‘snowflakes’ and such little children have not perfected the ability to discern reality from fiction in stories. You’d think a person trained to teach at that level would recognize that at that age what kids see and hear seems very real to them even if it isn’t. Why would you read a scary story and add scary props? What kind of scary story are you reading that a Ouija board is an appropriate prop?

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      ltuser March 6, 2017 at 4:49 pm

      Darby, there were not only calls for that driver to get fired, but for another driver a few months before, who was listening to a christian talk show on the radio to get fired.

      SO WHY is it all ok for them to get people so hot they should lose their job, but what this teacher did, “ah, her apology is all that is needed..”

      Seems you have one heck of a double standard there….

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    • darby March 6, 2017 at 5:45 pm

      Ituser, I forgot about the bus driver who accidentally played talk radio on the exterior speakers. I was referring to the story on 10-8 about the bus driver playing Christian music. That story didn’t mention anything about calls for him to be fired. Any calls for the driver to be fired would have been wrong.

      In this story the teacher apologized and that should be the end of it. Why is this mother the only one demanding the teacher be fired and the only one with a freaked out child. If she can’t accept an apology then I have a few questions about her.

      Of course there is enough info in this story for me to form an opinion but not enough details to know it’s correct.

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    • drillbeast March 6, 2017 at 10:05 pm

      oldshooter March 6, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      @drillbeast: God’s greatest difficulty:
      Convincing people he DOES exist

      That’s why most people will reject salvation.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser March 7, 2017 at 12:05 am

      Darby, i am surprised you remember the older one and forgot the more recent one…

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  5. columba March 6, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    The teacher did something inadvisable — and, by the way, something I consider to be dangerous — but firing is too harsh for a one-time error in judgment. A reprimand should be sufficient, as well as some kind of explanation to the kids and maybe counseling for the student who reacted so strongly.

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    • darby March 6, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      The problem might not be the teacher if only one child had such a strong reaction. Perhaps the teacher should demand to know what the mother has been teaching her child.

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    • ltuser
      ltuser March 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      Does it matter? Perhaps she is a christian and thus dislikes the Ouija board as something satanists use, or is a jew.. MANY religions dislike that thing. Hell i know many atheist/agnostics who also don’t like it…

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  6. Jota_ March 6, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    Rom 8:38  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 
    Rom 8:39  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of G-d, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Isa 44:15  Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto. 

    Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

    2Co 10:5  Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of G-d, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 

    What ever you give power to will rule you

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  7. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 9:12 am

    Yes, I’m supporting the teacher here – I don’t think she did anything wrong. The fact that some people believe just using a Ouija Board as a prop for telling a scary story is dangerous, says more about the ignorance of those people than anything else. Consider that the Ouija Board is sold in toy stores as a party game, and has been for the last century or so, without evidence of any widespread harm. Is it possible to use a Ouija Board in a manner that might present a danger? Maybe; certainly many in the occult community think so. In fact, I personally, think so. But even if so, there is no danger in the way this teacher was described as using it. Toy stores also sell bicycles, which can be dangerous if used unsafely too. That doesn’t mean kids should never be exposed to a bicycle, or that teachers should never use one as a relevant prop for a story. I am reminded of an incident I witnessed years ago at work. A coworker had been told by her minister that it was dangerous to view a solar eclipse (it is, but only because it is bad for your eyes to look directly at the sun). She however, refused to go outside during the eclipse, since IT might see HER. This is an example good advice turned into superstition by ignorance. Same thing with the Ouija Board.

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  8. Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 10:09 am

    “The fact that some people believe just using a Ouija Board as a prop for telling a scary story is dangerous, says more about the ignorance of those people than anything else.”

    Then she could have used anything, why didn’t she?

    Most likely because she could not play on and play up an existing belief the children already had and why the mother complained, to scare them

    So she was perpetuating the ignorance you so condemn while at the same time defender her, claiming she did nothing wrong

    Well done, most have tied your brain up in a knot making that argument!

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    • oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 10:36 am

      First off, I think it incredibly unlikely that any kindergarten children have any idea at all about what a Ouija Board is, or what it is used for. Further, I don’t know what her :scary story” involved, so it’s hard to say what, if anything, might have been a better prop. Since Ouija Boards are most commonly thought to be a way to communicate with “ghosts,” that may have been the reason. Would you prefer she stage a simulated séance? Or perhaps cast a double circle and simulated invoking a demon? Sounds like the Ouija Board would be, by far, the easiest, and least objectionable, prop available to her. As for perpetuating the ignorance about the Ouija Board – yep, she probably did exactly that, or at least, demonstrated its common use as a party game. But then, it is unlikely that kindergarten kids, who are still at the level of believing in monsters and inimical “ghosts,” would have been a suitable audience for an erudite exposition of occult metaphysical theory. Remember, the kids just wanted “a scary story,” so she gave them one. Simple explanations rarely “tie my brain up in a knot.”

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 11:34 am

      “First off, I think it incredibly unlikely that any kindergarten children have any idea at all about what a Ouija Board is, or what it is used for”

      What part of that is thinking? It is an argument from ignorance

      Yet, you would like us to BELIEVE you know what you are talking about

      Hahahaha

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  9. Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 10:28 am

    “Consider that the Ouija Board is sold in toy stores as a party game, and has been for the last century or so, without evidence of any widespread harm.”

    Since it doesn’t work are people demanding to get their money back?

    Maybe, the lack of complaint is proof they believe it did and there in is the harm, the belief it did work.

    Which means bring superstitious nonsense into an educational environment, as a prop, will serve to reinforce their belief in it and will perpetuate their ignorance, not lessen it

    Which would be extremely poor judgment on the part of an educator

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  10. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Oh come on, Jota. She didn’t bring “superstitious nonsense” (your belief BTW, not mine) into an educational environment. She just told the kids a “scary story,” at THEIR request, and quite possibly as a reward. Shall we never tell them the story of “Jack and the Beanstalk,” “Snow White,” or “Sleeping Beauty” either, because they too are “superstitious nonsense?” Or, since animals don’t talk, shall they be denied Disney cartoons and movies?
    And if some people believe their Ouija Board “worked,” and helped them contact their “dear departed,” why is that a problem? Frankly, I don’t think most folks who bought them actually believe they contacted “spirits.” They just bought a party game and had fun with it – why would they want their money back?

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 11:46 am

      “She just told the kids a “scary story,”

      You seem to have conveniently left out the prop which is USED to feed a believe which IS “superstitious nonsense” so you can dance around the contradiction in your argument

      If the prop added nothing to the story why use it?

      If it did add to the story, what did it add?

      Could it be that it can give answers to questions?

      Come on, a little thought, so far your reasoning has been so convoluted beginning to think you are consulting a Ouija Board

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  11. Srini Varadarajan
    Srini Varadarajan March 7, 2017 at 11:31 am

    This is like teaching about ******* or Jainism in schools without teaching about the Christianity on which the country was founded — and this teacher frankly deserves the boot for foisting “Wicca”!

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    • oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      Srini,
      Ouija Boards have nothing to do with Wicca. While some Wiccans may use them at times, so do proponents of many other religions (including Christianity), not to mention Atheists. If they are specifically associated with any sort of “religious” practice, it would be the late 19th Century practice of “Spiritualism,” espoused by Madam Bravatsky, et al. That movement is not generally considered to be a “religion,” per se.
      What is your problem with “foisting” Wicca on these kids? Do you have a similar problem with “foisting” Christianity on them? If not, why not? Seems like it would be beneficial for kids to learn about all religious beliefs as part of their education, or would you prefer they be “brainwashed” with only a particular one (of your choice)?
      FYI, many of the most prominent Founders of our country were Deists, not Christians, and in any event, it doesn’t matter. That’s because regardless of their personal beliefs, they went out of their way to ensure that their new country was founded very specifically on principles derived from Natural Law (which should make them compatible with nearly ALL religions), not just Christianity. If you believe we were founded on solely Christian principles, I would ask you to identify a couple of specifically Christian principles that were embodied in either our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, or the philosophical basis of those documents.

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 1:46 pm

      ” I would ask you to identify a couple of specifically Christian principles that were embodied in either our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, or the philosophical basis of those documents.”

      “WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness ”

      What in nature shows you this? Nature shows abundantly we are NOT all made equal, not physically, not mentally, not emotionally

      It is a completely absurd statement easily disproved using any evidence gained by the five senses

      So where?

      As a foundation of the Christian belief

      Rom_10:12  For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
      Gal_3:28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
      Col_3:11  Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

      Php_2:6  Who, being in the form of G-d, thought it not robbery to be equal with G-d:

      Joh_17:11  And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      “I would ask you to identify a couple of specifically Christian principles that were embodied in either our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, or the philosophical basis of those documents”

      “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor” – THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

      1Pe 5:7  Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

      Psa_23:4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. (Yea, that is a Jewish one)

      Perhaps, you should try reading one or both to be better informed

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      “I would ask you to identify a couple of specifically Christian principles that were embodied in either our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, or the philosophical basis of those documents

      The Constitution,

      Done in Convention, by the unanimous consent of the states present, the seventeenth day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-seven, and of the independence of the United States the twelfth. In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our Names.

      In the year of what?

      OUR LORD

      Tell me again it is not a Christian document

      You need to cut back on reading those liberal books of fiction

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  12. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    Jota, you say I’m arguing from ignorance when I suggest that kindergarteners wouldn’t be likely to know what a Ouija Board is. Actually, I’m arguing from experience. When did YOU first learn about them? I’ll bet it wasn’t in Kindergarten. We had a Ouija board in my house from before I was born (my dad worked with JB Rhine in his early parapsychology experiments and he had it since then). I didn’t learn anything about it until I found it in a closet when I was in my teens and asked about it. I routinely meet adults who have never heard of it. So, based on my experience, I think it is very unlikely that kindergartners have any idea what one is, in fact, many of their PARENTS probably don’t know either!

    As for the “superstitious nonsense” issue, I’m not sure exactly what elements of all this you think would fit that bill. The Ouija Board (and similar devices) have been used in occult circles and in parapsychology studies for many years, as a means to focus consciousness and will, so the device itself is no more nonsense than a pencil is. But, like a pencil, it isn’t much good until you have learned how to use it. That same pencil may be dangerous in the hands of someone like Goebbels or Hitler, but not in the hands of a preliterate child pretending to write with it. I believe the same is true with Ouija Boards. The child is “just playing,” in the same way this teacher was “just playing” with the Ouija Board.

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      “So, based on my experience, I think it is very unlikely that kindergartners have any idea what one is, in fact, many of their PARENTS probably don’t know either!”

      Your experience is irrelevant

      If your experience changes will it make it more likely a “kindergartners have any idea what one is”

      There is no relationship between what is your experience and what they know

      So it is irrelevant

      It does explain why you would GUESS it is unlikely but it does not make it so

      And I could not careless what the children knew because it was NOT their decision to bring it in

      It was the teachers. Geez, how you keep dancing around changing what is the topic under discussion is enough to make my head spin. The topic is “Kindergarten teacher investigated for using Ouija board to tell scary story to class”

      It is HIGHLY LIKELY she knows what it is used for and WHY she brought it as a prop for a scary story, which is nothing more than perpetuating superstitious nonsense to a group impressionable children, who will one day learn of what it is for and remember the scary story and if not believe, wonder.

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  13. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Jota, I was simply refuting each of your contentions as they arose. OK, you think the teacher was wrong to use a Ouija Board as a prop when her kindergartners asked her to tell them a scary story. You said it was wrong because 1) it was “superstitious nonsense,” which you don’t define, and, 2) because it would predispose the kids to wonder about Ouija Boards later (which I presume you think would be bad). If it is all just “superstitious nonsense” what would be wrong with wondering about it later in life?
    When kids ask to hear a “scary story,” they typically want a story about “Ghosts,” “Vampires,” or other mythological creatures-not about ISIS attacks. All the stories that fit this bill revolve around things that can be characterized as “superstitious nonsense.” If this was a story about “ghosts” or “spirits” being summoned, and the popular belief about Ouija Boards is that they are used for that purpose, then a Ouija Board is certainly a suitable prop for the story. The real question is, if this is all just “superstitious nonsense,” then what was wrong with using the Ouija Board as a prop? Why would it be more inappropriate than, for example, making “wooo wooo” noises during the story? The only reason it would be a big deal, is if you thought it ISN’T just “superstitious nonsense,” and a Ouija Board was somehow dangerous in and of itself-which I find absurd.

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  14. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    Jota, “In the year of our Lord” was a standard convention of dating documents, it implies nothing but that the writers are well educated. Interestingly, you may not have noticed, but at no time, not once, do any of those documents mention Christ or the Christian God. Why not? That was also a convention of this type of document in their day, and they specifically avoided it. The terms “Providence” and “Nature’s God” come from Deism and Natural Law, respectively. The term Providence occurs only once in the Bible, and it is NOT in reference to God, but to the local governor. As for the part about being equal, being endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, etc. that is straight out of Locke’s treatises on liberty and the origin of government’s rights. The issue of equality does not imply physical or mental equality, but rather that “as living human beings” the government must treat all equally under the law. That is, there are no inherent classes, like the Nobility, Clergy, etc. in Europe. That is also straight out of Locke, although other Enlightenment philosophers also believed it. It is a principle derived directly from Natural Law, not Christianity. Notice that all the European Christian nations of the day did not believe it, they were divided into social classes. Rather than me reading the Bible, with which I’m already familiar, maybe YOU should read some Locke.

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      “but at no time, not once, do any of those documents mention Christ or the Christian G-d. Why not?”

      A history less

      1: At that time all people of western Europe were either from nations which were Roman Catholic or Protestant

      2: The Thirty Years’ War ended in 1648 and was closer in memory to the Founders than the Civil War is to us. That was the war where, first, the Protestants swept through Brandenburg killing all the Catholics, then the Catholics swept through it killing all the Protestants, which gave us a doctrine we still hold today, Peace of Westphalia, which had as one of its tenets

      “Christians living in principalities where their denomination was not the established church were guaranteed the right to practice their faith” – Wikipedia

      3: Some of the colonies were founded by individuals fleeing religious persecution, like the Puritans whose only religious crime in the eyes of the Church of England was holding to the purity of the church doctrine. So, not individuals who were in inclined to have a government tell them who it thinks is Christ or the Christian G-d, or how to understand the Bible, not that they did not believe, they just did not think you knew enough to tell them how to

      Something completely different than the liberal baloney of no one believed

      They believed all too intensely

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      “The term Providence occurs only once in the Bible,”

      To the casual reader

      It is from the Greek word pron’-oy-ah which is used twice, But is from the Greek word pron-o-eh’-o which used three more times, but it is from the compound of two Greek words noy-eh’-o, used 14 times, and means to understand, thought, the other Greek word is pro used 46 times but is not relevant for a count, it means fore

      So the two words together mean forethought

      Divine forethought

      The fact they use it at all shows they have spent a lot of time studying the Bible, which completely demolishes what you are implying, of it being written with little thought

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      “that is straight out of Locke’s treatises on liberty and the origin of government’s rights”

      John Locke born 29 August 1632 – died 28 October 1704

      You mean he had some of the same thoughts 1600 years after someone else thought them, or are you claiming Locke sprung fully formed from the head of Zeus with ideas no one had ever thought before?

      Hahaha

      Christianity influenced Western culture and Locke is a product of that influence to some degree.

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  15. oldshooter March 7, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    Actually, Jota, I’m pretty familiar with the history of religious persecution of Christians (not to mention Jews and Moslems) by other Christians in the 16th and 17th centuries. I suspect it was a major reason the Founding Fathers were determined to have true religious freedom for ALL religions in their new country. But you dodged my question. So, tell me again, WHY don’t any of our founding documents follow the usual literary customs of the time and mention Christ or the Christian God specifically, opting instead to use Deist and Natural Law (or sometimes Masonic) terminology? It sure looks like they wanted NOT to be identified as a specifically Christian country, as Jefferson actually stated in his official letter to the Barbary empire while he was President.

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    • Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 5:28 pm

      “I suspect it was a major reason the Founding Fathers were determined to have true religious freedom for ALL religions in their new country.”

      Unfortunately for you, the evidence is against such a view

      “The situation of the Catholic Church in the Thirteen Colonies was characterized by an extensive religious persecution ….” – Wikipedia

      “In the first half of the 20th century, Jews were discriminated against in some employment, not allowed into some social clubs and resort areas” – Wikipedia

      Then we have the American Indian having their children taken and put in boarding schools, their names changed to be more European

      Do not think their intent was to benefit religion at all but SCIENCE (knowledge)

      Science is where all the kooky ideas originate, like the Earth going around the sun, or the Earth is round, or washing your hands after doing an autopsy and before delivering a baby, or peptic ulcers are caused by a bacteria

      There is ALWAYS an orthodox view, ALWAYS, which strongly resembles a religion in every field of study in the world and tries to keep it that way

      So it is one religious view arguing with another even while claiming to be science, but no one cares what you believe only if you can make an argument they can buy

      Christianity laid the foundation for this

      Joh_8:36  If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

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  16. Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    “what possible rationale do you think use of a Ouija Board as a story prop was somehow wrong?”

    Duh

    The obvious one of course

    It is a Ouija Board

    How do we know it is a Ouija Board?

    It has all the stuff needed so one can ask it questions

    And how is it suppose to answer?

    Yea, on that we are all suppose to pretend we are clueless about how it is SUPPOSE to work, not that it actually does work, only that why it was made

    Gee, I don’t know, duh!

    Hahahaha

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  17. Jota_ March 7, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    “What’s so awful about a Ouija Board as part of a scary story?”

    What could possibly scare them?

    They don’t know what a Ouija Board is or does, so, since it cannot add to the scare, why even use it?

    Hahahahaha

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  18. oldshooter March 8, 2017 at 10:44 am

    I give up, Jota! Obviously logical argument is not your forte – it may even be a foreign concept altogether. Have a nice day!

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    • Jota_ March 8, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      “Obviously logical argument is not your forte”

      As said by the person who argued they do not see a problem with using a “Ouija board to tell scary story” because the children will not know what it is, never mind the fact that begs the question what was the point of using it for a scary story then?

      Hahahaha

      Am sure one day you will get it

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